User talk:Legitimus

DSM-5 question

Hi Legitimus,

Do you know the page number for what is cited to the DSM-5 in the lead sentence of Breast fetishism? Crossroads ^-talk- 04:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The DSM doesn't mention "breast fetishism" by that specific name, but "partialism" is mentioned on page 701, in the section regarding Fetishistic Disorder. The paragraph is as follows:

"It is not uncommon for sexualized fetishes to include both inanimate objects and body parts (e.g., dirty socks and feet), and for this reason the definition of fetishistic disorder now re-incorporates partialism (i.e., an exclusive focus on a body part) into its boundaries. Partialism, previously considered a paraphilia not otherwise specified disorder, had historically been subsumed in fetishism prior to DSM-IIΙ." Legitimus (talk) 12:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Crossroads ^-talk- 06:10, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Child grooming page

Legitimus, why are you creating me much problem to add the legal part mention in brakets at the beginning of the article regarding Child grooming and you even want me to start a discussion in the talk page despite already explaining you the reasons why should be added as a post-edit explanation? 151.46.64.34 (talk) 12:48, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was not the only person to revert you, and you do not seem to understand proper procedure editing. Articles are meant to follow the manual of style and the top-most section must follow even more rigorous standards, including being concise. Long sentences set in parenthesis tend to be poor writing form for the first sentence of an article.

Now, please post your reasoning in the talk page for the article to allow others to weigh in. One potential outcome is your addition simply needs to be rephrased more cleanly in a way that can be incorporated into the sentence rather than as a parenthetical.

I personally find it strange how you feel the need to point out such an oddly specific definition in the lead sentence of an article that already includes language that covers it. I also find it strange that you are being so emphatic about working in this "legal age of consent" language considering your IP address is from a nation that for one, is non-English-speaking, and second where that age is 14 years old.Legitimus (talk) 13:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work

Dear Legitimus,

I’ve just recently started editing Wikipedia and part of my process of Wiki-self-education involves watching and learning from the editing of our most talented editors, especially their explanations and conversations on Talk pages. Your work on our child abuse/rape and pedophilia articles, particularly, is simply phenomenal. Your background knowledge of the state of the relevant disciplines, and the way you make use of that knowledge, is unsurpassed.

I especially admire how you interact with (or maybe “deal with” is more appropriate in many of the cases) editors who show up to some of those articles’ Talk pages attempting to undermine the entirety of the DSM or the ICD or the entire profession and body of research of mental health experts—oftentimes to justify their own behaviors or disorders.

So thank you. In my short time here, I’ve seen that editing can oftentimes be a thankless job for our smartest and most knowledgeable editors. If more of us were like you, this place would be even better than it already is.

Sincerely, ThanksForHelping (talk) 20:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe I‘m missing sth but for me the linked version is searchable… CarlFromVienna (talk) 16:20, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. I found the search box. However, while the term "veganism" doesn't appear, the word "vegan" does appear six times in the portions of the book that are not hidden by the preview mode. Legitimus (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe my mistake after all. I searched for „veg“ (to get veg-an/ism and veg-etarian/ism) but got no result. I will read the passages in detail tomorrow and edit the article accordingly. CarlFromVienna (talk) 18:07, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I read the paragraph where Bratman and Knight talk about veganism and added their reasoning to the article. It was good to have a look into this in detail as their reasoning seems to be a child of their time. I don't think that anyone today who's working professionally in the field would share their simplistic repudiation of vegan ethics. CarlFromVienna (talk) 07:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Be careful in how you're presenting that information in the article. A common mistake in editing is intentionally cherry-picking quotes and information from sources in biased manner. I see that you chose quotes that make Bratman seem biased or outdated, but didn't actually cover why he felt veganism can be a vehicle for orthorexia. Note this is distinct from saying the two are interchangeable or that one is causing the other. As a comparison, it is already well understood in psychological practice that anorexia nervosa patients frequently use veganism as a method of symptom concealment as well as a way to socially strong-arm their lack of food intake among family and peers. This is not the same thing as saying veganism causes anorexia or that vegans are all anorexic.Legitimus (talk) 14:10, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it‘s not cherrypicking, but if you cannot summarize a source you cannot use it, right? The source is rather unscientific and anecdotal so I kindly ask you not to blame me when trying to summarize it. So a way in between is to use the source anyways but quote it. Currently the article blablas that they „expanded the subject“. Their views are clearly not neutral but based in the ethical reference system of the time. Mentioning this is important especially as this is the history section. If you disagree with the quotations please copyedit but don’t delete. CarlFromVienna (talk) 13:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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