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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Keepx. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Ripple (company), you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. GermanJoe (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, GermanJoe. I have no external relationship with the people, places, or things I have written about in the article Ripple (company), not received compensation or not expecting to. Sure I'm the main recent contributor on this page, but no one seems to care about updating it, and just because I often update it and being monomaniacal doesn't mean I have a relationship or an interest to. I'm open to transparency. Keepx (talk) 17:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Keepx. New accounts focussing on one single topic often have some connection to that topic - but not always of course as in your case. I hope you don't mind me checking, and thank you for your clarification. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 18:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion of interest

You may want to make your thoughts known at WP:Conflict of interest/noticeboard#Ripple. - Brianhe (talk) 01:29, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I answered :) --Keepx (talk) 10:17, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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VitaDAO moved to draftspace

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Forbes contributors are considered unreliable. The other three are not independent. A good source to establish notability must be independent, have significant coverage, and be reliable, as in WP:GNG. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 19:02, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Sungodtemple

I edited the page to the best of my possibilities, I doubt I can do any better. I think I'll submit for review, if it's not good enough that's ok, if you have any other advice, it's welcomed. Keepx (talk) 19:31, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: VitaDAO (August 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

None of the sources used are reliable and/or independent. What they say about themselves is not useful and the Forbes article is not a reliable source because it was written by a contributor rather than staff (see WP:FORBESCON).

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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S0091 (talk) 17:14, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @S0091,

I understand the decision. It's actually quite hard to find sources meeting all criteria. I agree about the Forbes article not being reliable as written by a contributor (a nice Wikipedia Editor pointed this to me before).

Still, I wouldn't call all other sources not "reliable or "not independent". Sure, maybe not in-depth, not specific enough or not secondary (and maybe not enough of them) but:

World Economic Forum mention from June 2023

https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_DAOs_for_Impact_2023.pdf

Berkeley Research paper

https://cmr.berkeley.edu/assets/documents/pdf/2023-01-can-decentralized-autonomous-organizations-daos-revolutionize-healthcare.pdf

Newcastle University

https://from.ncl.ac.uk/funding-science-through-blockchain-technology-and-cryptocurrencies

Bloomberg News

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/daos-might-be-cure-for-biotech-startups-and-new-drug-development

Biospace (science news since 1985)

https://www.biospace.com/article/pfizer-invests-500k-in-de-centralized-collective-focused-on-longevity-r-and-d

(even the businessinsider one - just being a news article I agree)

Prove reliable to me and are independent even if missing criteria for Wikipedia of course.

Again, I'm not reproaching you the decision, just wanted to point that.

I might try to find some links later but I don't think I'll bother a lot more, if people wants to follow the draft I created (but not much interest it seems).

Thanks (and thanks for the review it's appreciated nevertheless) Keepx (talk) 19:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For example there are articles from Endpoints (Financial Times group website) but they require a login to view them, but it's probably not secondary sources either anyway.

https://endpts.com/pfizer-buys-into-decentralized-cooperative-to-accelerate-rd-in-human-longevity/

https://endpts.com/pfizer-backed-decentralized-cooperative-raises-4-1m-to-fund-longevity-research/ Keepx (talk) 20:12, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Keepx, in looking a couple these, it appears they are simply regurgitating what VitaDOA says, usually based on their website so is primary and not independent. Note this is decline rather than reject. A decline allows for improvement and resubmission, while a reject does not so you are welcome to improve and resubmit for another reviewer to take a look. S0091 (talk) 13:52, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, appreciated! Keepx (talk) 14:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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