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A kitten for you!

Hello. I am attempting to make you happy with a kitten so I can then ask you how I can create the Cube World page. I won't spam. I just want to make it because I am working on the game Cube World and want to show it on here.

PlannedBoredom (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Teh evil kitteh made me do it. Guy (Help!) 22:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Re:Notice of restrictions

Dear User:JzG, thank you for the information on my talk page. I will do my best to work with others on the paraphrasing/plagiarism issue and will be careful to adhere to WP:NPOV and WP:DUE. With the mix of supports and opposes at ANI, I think you made a well informed decision. To please the Wikipedia community, I will also be taking a break for some time, in order to reflect on these issues. I hope you have a nice day sir. With regards, AnupamTalk 15:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

new utopia it realy start not or just a other fraud ?

hi did see you write in the new utopia project maybe you can anwser my quastines i did look around the internet but only find the things belowe so maybe you did have any infomation hmm and why would they sudnetly get investoers now whe its a more of less a fincael crisrs and not ut the 2 booms that have existed in the 17 yeasr the project have existed ...


the offical website did say that in did start construction now maybe it should be update the wikipeida artickel but at the same time it need to update its pasport infomation... the links have not been updated too maybe its should be added in the wiki artick? one of the owner of the domain name was made bankrupt in florida fort meyers court if it get sued for fraud in florida why did the charte citizens get ther office in caymen island (that showes in the youtube video )now when caymen island can give infomation abut amricans convicted of crime ?

when many of the cariben island did give clients lists the last 5 years why did not charter citise get there mony back (if it is a fraud) becuse look like many of them(investoer/conslats/govounoers have mony offshore?

got sued ? what happen to charter citizens? Investors’ did sue them for fraud and made the project somewhere else ? because all the business /project did stop in 2007/2008 and the site did move to flordia then to uk (just look it the dictionary that was the domain name )

sorry for my bad enghlis

murakami — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.147.33.187 (talk) 14:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I have read that he anchored a buoy marking the location of the future island, but that he never started construction. There should be an explanation here, but I can't buy access to the article because I don't live in the US. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

hmm i dont live there either :(

as you can see on my spelling;)

so maybe put it on the talk page for new utopia or let some of the us writer of the artickel read it a summerys it obe the wiki page ? becuse if its a fraud would not somebody have sued them and won by now, since this have gone on for 15-16 years ? other projects like this have been sued when they faild (freedomship and sobody that was going to build somthing like this oute in the nevada wildernes ) the oceinan/ atlanis project (those that was going to build a libertarian paradise outside florida in the 1990s) did not take money for there membership becuse they was affraid of getting sued...)those that was buy apaements ib UAE gated comunity that never got build are trying to sue ther investoers i guss those proehjects are teh closest of what new utopia was going to be the sea and the outback of dersert uae citys states are maybe the same;) or mayeb its just african militas and foks that dont want to join the miletary and is vagabonds that want a bank accunte in uruguay or tadsjikistan that have citizenships of this project ? murakami


— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.147.38.2 (talk) 15:06, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
I have no idea if he has been sued or not. We need a reliable source that says "Lazarus Long has been sued for fraud by New Utopia investors". Wikipedia can't claim that something is a fraud, we need a reliable source saying "New Utopia is a fraud because of reason X and reason Y".
I think we have some sources saying that the project is unlikely. That it's not likely to be built.
We can only say that he was sued by the SEC sued him because of problems with his bond. --Enric Naval (talk) 15:29, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

did find this

http://www.offshorealert.com/Search.aspx?Term=new+utopia

guess you can dig deep into this if you find more or call the court of fort meyers office ask why one of the new utopia domain adres got delcared bankruot ...

look like this lazarus long did get dead now so maybe easyer to find information now ? and find out what happend to his caymen island office ?

murakami — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.147.38.2 (talk) 16:41, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't look like a reliable source. It could give clues to find reliable sources. But I don't think that's very likely.
That would be an international phone call, very expensive. I don't usually make phone calls, because they can't be used as sources for articles. Sometimes I send emails, because they are cheap, and people can send links to sources. But I am not going to spend so much time on this. It doesn't look like I am going to find sources that I can use in wikipedia.
I am most interested in books, articles in business magazines, articles in law journals, etc. Those are very good sources for wikipedia. With those sources it's easy to write interesting articles. I am not going to write more in the New Utopia unless I can find more of those sources. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:06, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

eh offshoralert do look relaibel to me i think it was wikipeida :) and some links to that scources of other finace digging website it have been in operation in 10-15 years looked like but anyway print oute youer email and use snail mail :) not hard to find court houses adres in usa on the internet hmm isnt thouse places just thet type that 1. pay for use.2.outeside normal web have to used deep web kind of things?3. inside databaese that you have to know the adres and scarch for in the database not altavista or bing... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.147.33.187 (talk) 16:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

That was smart

I like your solution to the Anupam issue at ANI, which I would hate to have tried to close. No topic ban as yet, but the next problematic edit gets a block at the discretion of the blocking admin. That's almost as tight as an actual topic ban, but doesn't trample on the valid opinions of the dissenters. Clever :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Thank you. I believe that 7 years block free qualifies for the basic courtesy of allowing him a genuine opportunity to address the issue, while recognising that it really does have to stop. If I have got it right I will no doubt be attacked by all sides :-) Guy (Help!) 12:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
    • Hehe, yes :-) -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:20, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
      • Just wanted to echo Boing's sentiments. I too felt that 7 years of positive contributions, especially to India-related articles cannot be ignored.Pectoretalk 20:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)