User talk:JzG/Archive 214

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A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks for creating this page, for taking the time to express so eloquently what many of us think (mistakenly!) that needs no explanation. It shouldn't need it. But it does. WikiUser70176 (talk) 12:14, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Possible WP:FORUMing

Respectfully, I think we are possibly heading into WP:FORUM here, which as a well respected and established admin sets a bad example and invites more such commentary. Further, I think it is always a mistake to think that opposing sides are in no way counterparts to each other. Opponents don't have to be devoid of any merit (even from their own perspective?) and be utterly asymmetrically opposed to be wrong. Taken to its extreme, "false equivalency" arguments verge on denying analogy altogether and often draw on beliefs one would typically fault "regressives" for, like objective morality, which I would class as sloppy or lazy thinking. Cheers. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:34, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

About an old discussion

Hi JzG! So I had once found suggestions that you had made back in 2019 at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 281 § Indian fake media. Since then there have been two discussions (1 and 2), one AfD and an RfC related to this. Revisiting this, I don't think the RfC was ever properly implemented and the suggestions you had proposed before were likely a much better way. However I'm unsure how to go about it. Tayi Arajakate Talk 10:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Watergate scandal

Template:Editnotices/Page/Watergate scandal has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Interstellarity (talk) 13:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Blacklisted URL

Template:Blacklisted URL has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:53, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Removing the AP2 sanction on top of the Watergate scandal page

Hi JzG, on the Watergate scandal page, I was wondering if you could consider removing the contentious topic notice that you put on that page. The sanctions were narrowed down to post-1992 US politics and the recent edits of the article have shown that the only nonconstructive edits seem to be simple vandalism and content removal, which can be covered by normal policy. Interstellarity (talk) 00:04, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

I am sure a passing admin will happily help if you can't do this yourself, as you say it's no longer relevant. Guy (help! - typo?) 22:47, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Hockey stick controversy

Hi Guy, it was a while ago now but as as the initiator of [[this AFD, I thought I'd let you know that I restored the article/talk edits for attribution purposes; see the talk page. I imagine you'd find the paper that inspired these actions, "Rule Ambiguity, Institutional Clashes, and Population Loss: How Wikipedia Became the Last Good Place on the Internet" fascinating ... it's more or less about how Wikipedia gradually adopted a scientific point of view. We haven't crossed paths in that area much but I'd say your one of the main "non-fringe" editors who helped with this process, and Wikipedia (and the Internet) is very much the better for that. Graham87 10:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! Great article. Wikipedia-as-Usenet, basically: new Shiny Things appeared, and the dwindling band of those of us who care, hang around and try to keep the old place clean :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 20:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:JZG" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Wikipedia:JZG has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 4 § Wikipedia:JZG until a consensus is reached. Q𝟤𝟪 10:27, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Essay critique

I have created a new essay and would welcome some critique on the talk page there:

Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:58, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

"Jesus ain't say that" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Since you do a lot of citation work...

These pieces might interest you. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:28, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

G11ed article

Hi, I'm writing an article on Leon Redler (draft here). The article was previously speedily deleted under G11 in 2018 (by you) and A7 in 2010, and I was wondering if there was anything in the deleted versions that may be salvageable. :3 F4U (they/it) 14:57, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind! It appears you no longer have sysop status, I'll find someone else and sorry for the bother :3 F4U (they/it) 15:00, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Since you do (did?) a lot of citation work...

These pieces might interest you. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Unblock reviewed

Template:Unblock reviewed has been nominated for merging with Template:Unblock. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Aasim - Herrscher of Wikis ❄️ 19:55, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Unusable source

Template:Unusable source has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 18:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion

To avoid calls of "malformed RFC", or whatnot:

At the very top, just below the bot syntax, add a single neutral statement of what this is about, and add your signature.

I hope this helps. - jc37 00:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

AE discussion

Just in case pings weren't working, I wanted to give you a heads up that the AE discussion has been opened dealing with some of the comments about you. KoA (talk) 16:52, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Arb Case

Hi Guy, just wanted to let you know the AE case regarding Leyo with comments involving you has been passed on to ArbCom: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Leyo. Thanks. KoA (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Redirect at centimeter fully protected since 2006?

Looks like you fully protected this redirect due an edit war 17 years ago. Is it good to roam now? jp×g 03:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

In as much as I remember, it was a lame war about moving the unit that Americans don't use to the American spelling thereof, but it was all a long time ago. Guy (help! - typo?) 13:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bradley Yohn (November 4)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Ca was:
Is there really anything that seperates this from the average criminal? This draft seems like it fails WP:NOTNEWS. There is no lasting impact (WP:NEVENT), and the sources are just announcements of convictions.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Ca talk to me! 16:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, JzG! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Ca talk to me! 16:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
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