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3 more former F5-EF5 tornadoes

Hi,

According to this reference from the article List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes, there used to be 3 (more) tornadoes rated F5 in Tennessee other then the one in 1923 and 1998. I believe one of them was promoted back to F5 (due to damage in Alabama). Do you think this info from this reference should be added to the article? [1]--Halls4521 (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

yes, and there are still plenty of things for me to be sure about for the ef5 list , location is draging it out a bit too long, after locations are finish other stuff to plan.--Joshoctober16 (talk) 19:45, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Bowdle South Dakota, Possible EF5

Hi, I've bee looking for a chance myself to add the 2010 Bowdle tornado as a possible EF5. I attended a talk by Tim Samaras back in 2012 where he expressed his opinion that the Bowdle tornado should have been rated EF5. Would it be possible to cite that? TornadoLGS (talk) 21:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

This is in fact what im looking for however you need at least one link proof to put it there , if there is a video of it we can post it , or some sites ... , any proof of tim samaras saying a tornado should of been rated f5/EF5 can be added , it is noted that the allison tornado of 1995 will be added if i can figure out how to post this nws link that might or might not work, if it cant here is what it shows up as https://www.weather.gov/media/ama/amator_dbase.xlsx.Joshoctober16 (talk) 11:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Pre-1950 F5's

There are some localize NWS websites that seem to recognize some Pre-1950 tornadoes as F5's even if there not officially rated. When we find a NWS site as an reference should also put NWS on the "Listed F5 by" section? What do you think? --Halls4521 (talk) 23:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Yes we put it on the Listed by section , and infact one tornado has me in a confusing situation... its a offical sorce that list a bunch of tornadoes , with ONE in 1947 that is rated F5... so im unsure what to do about this one...--Joshoctober16 (talk) 01:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Which tornado? Is the source a website, book/paper, Etc.? I think if it's from an official source we can use it.--Halls4521 (talk) 04:28, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

https://www.weather.gov/media/ama/amator_dbase.xlsx this is the 1947 Glazier-Higgins-Woodward look at the Database Segment part. Joshoctober16 (talk) 04:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I'd say use it (along with these two links - https://www.weather.gov/oun/events-19470409 and https://www.weather.gov/oun/tornadodata).--Halls4521 (talk) 05:14, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and add those to the Woodward tornado. The link/reference is already being used as a reference to the 1995 Allison, Texas tornado anyway.--Halls4521 (talk) 23:00, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Template:Cyclones

Sorry but I had to removed certain items you have put there : supercell, Derecho, etc... which are clouds or clouds complexes, not circulations. Only center of rotation can be in this template.

Pierre cb (talk) 15:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

i think you need to re look what a supercell is ... and derecho kinda understandable , 2 of the stuff you remove should be kept. Joshoctober16 (talk) 15:41, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Don't start an edition war. I am a meteorologist and I know what are supercells and other convective complexes. They may contain circulation, like a mesocyclone, but are not circulation themselves, they are clouds complex. You have no idea of what you are talking about! Pierre cb (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

the may contain part is the reason why im not taking you seriously... , they have to have circulations to be called that, the other stuff that aint supercell/Mesoscale convective vortex i can understand. Joshoctober16 (talk) 15:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Your answer shows me further that you have no idea what you are talking about, that is the egg and the chicken : a supercell is not formed by a circulation, a circulation may form in it (mesocyclone) from the change of an horizontal rotation into a vertical one by the updraft. The mesocyclone is thus the circulation, not the cloud! Idem for the other MCS. Pierre cb (talk) 15:56, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

if there is no mesocyclone in the storm it aint a supercell , i never stated a supercell is or isn't formed by a circulation, the simple question for you is can a supercell have no mesocyclone? Joshoctober16 (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

No the point is : the mesocyclone IS the circulation, not the cloud. Pierre cb (talk) 16:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Your acting as if i put the word Cumulonimbus , i want no fight please read what a supercell is before going at me. Joshoctober16 (talk) 16:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

But a Supercell IS a cumulonimbus, not a circulation. I repeat: the mesocylone is the circulation not the cloud. The same for all other MCS: Derecho/MCC/etc... there a thunderstorm complexes that have localized circulation like mecosyclones, meso lows and mesohighs BUT they are not circulation themselves. Pierre cb (talk) 16:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

A supecell is a cumulonimbus with a mesocyclone in it , yes derecho i agree , its just the supercell part and you removed a circulation type as well, look back at the tab this is the way it should be. Joshoctober16 (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

now that i hope the supercell talk is over with, the meso high.... im unsure where to put that one, i mean yes its related with mesoscale storms... but its a high pressure? Joshoctober16 (talk) 08:59, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Dead Man Walking

I'd have to look around a bit, since I don't know who owns the copyright to the Dead Man Walking photo. Was it previously removed from Wikipedia on copyright grounds? TornadoLGS (talk) 18:42, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

it states it will be deleted in 7 days im unsure who even can contact him or if its even possible. Joshoctober16 (talk) 06:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

also i realy want a big wiki page just for the jarrell tornado , did a post on that talk page but no reply yet Joshoctober16 (talk) 08:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

I doubt it will get much attention, unfortunately. I've posted a few discussions myself that have gotten little or no response. A few years there were some editors who would've been all over such discussions, but most of the experienced editors seem to have moved on.

Template Weather

Hi:

I just want to let you know that your addition of this template is completely screwing the formating of many articles like Arcus cloud. Can you correct its effects. To me this template should be place at the bottom, like the one for cyclones, but that is only my opinion. Pierre cb (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

both agree and disagree , yes cleaning it up should be a thing to do , however if you look around ive been updating more then 90+ page per day , but this template type is made to be not on the bottom , like the cyclone you speek of , just point out what page that needs this template push more down, or even try to put it a bit more down. Joshoctober16 (talk) 21:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

hmm now that i think about it a show/hide format for that template could help it out , just like how the earthquake one has it, might take a day tougth. Joshoctober16 (talk) 21:33, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

That could be an excellent solution. Pierre cb (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

ok i just did it i hope it worked out for all the page's Joshoctober16 (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks good on Arcu at least. Pierre cb (talk) 01:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded

by increasing the size of Template:Natural disasters, we now have Drought and Earthquake in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. it would be better to not include everything in that template, but just the key topics. Frietjes (talk) 15:59, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

uh can you try explaining this again? i dont get what you mean , what about drought and earthquake? and what about this size thing?Joshoctober16 (talk) 16:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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Argentina Super Outbreak

Don't remove sections, search more.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleada_de_tornados_de_Buenos_Aires_de_1993 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F3:8F:101E:5D78:15CD:D390:F6A0 (talk) 02:55, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

i have found enough proof to see that a outbreak existed on that day and spot... however there is no proof of 300 tornado or 100 or ANY number , theres no data or notes how much tornadoes happend. once you find out about that part then we can keep it , otherwise it will be remove.Joshoctober16 (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Stop with bad faith and edit war, the SMN confirmed 300 tornadoes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F3:8F:101E:BC0A:F2F8:DD32:6CFF (talk) 15:20, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

you havent shown the proof for 300 tornado post the link. wiki links dont count.Joshoctober16 (talk) 01:36, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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Just a heads up

Hey, just letting you know, I added some bullet points in front of your comments on the Talk:List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes/Discussion just to keep the format the same across the different tornado discussions. I wanted to make sure you were aware since it was technically an edit to your comment. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:09, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

yep im fine with that. Joshoctober16 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2022 (UTC)