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October 2023

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Fred Whibley, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Please don't remove people from categories.[1] You removed Fred Whibley from British emigrants to Tuvalu‎ and placed him in British emigrants and Immigrants to Tuvalu, which resulted in @User:Liz tagging the category as empty. Mason (talk) 02:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

His migration was long and meandering. It alsoakes little sense to have any subcategories for a Category that only has three articles period.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
he was in Canada several years and then in Australia. Categorizing him as a direct immigrant does not make sense in the least.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:25, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
None of those are compelling reasons, and I think are disruptive. The immigration category does not make the distinction between "direct" and meandering. Furthermore, if you have a problem with a small category, you should not be circumventing the deletion process. Given your ban from deletion discussions, you can bring the category to the attention of an admin or really anyone rather than deleting out of turn. Mason (talk) 12:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've reverted your change again. It is disruptive for the reasons I stated. If you think "His time in at least Canada maybe should also have a category." Then add that as another place he resided as an expatriate. Mason (talk) 12:22, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think he was an immigrant to Canada. He met all reslasonable criteria of an emigrant. I think after 10 years it is impossible to say if he was still British or now Canadian. So I do not not think there is any sourcing that says which he was, so we would best put him in British emigrants, Immigrants to Canada and Immigrants to Tuvalu and not over state our certainty about anything else.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:06, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
          If you think he counts as a Canadian immigrant rather that an Expatriate, that fine. However, you haven't engaged with the point of the problem. One of his defining characteristics is being a British emigrant to Tuvalu. Someone who is a British emigrant and an immigrant to Tuvalu belongs in the intersection category, as long as that category exists.
          You do a lot of thoughtful work, but please don't keep making these out of process category changes, it is really disruptive. Mason (talk) 14:38, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
            • I think after 10 years of Canada saying he is either Canadian or Britosh is in both cases over stating what we really know. I think we are best only stating what we clearly know. Those facts are he was a British emigrant, that he was an immigrant to Canada and that he was an immigrantvto Tuvalu. Anything beyond that is making claims about his identity that we do not really know. I have seen cases where someone moved from the Russian Empire to Germany, lived in Germany a decade or more, and then came to the US. They were placed in both the Russian emigrants to the US and German emigrants to the US cats. Both are overstating what we actually know. It is simpler to categorize each leg of emigration as a seperate act when we do not have clear ways to say exactly what it was.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
              You're missing my point. Wikipedia:Defining is important here.
              >One of his defining characteristics is being a British emigrant to Tuvalu. Mason (talk) 15:07, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
                    • I do not think we know for sure if he was a British emigrant to Tuvalu or a Canadian emigrant to Tuvalu.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
                      Wikipedia:Defining Mason (talk) 15:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
                          • I would say what is defining is that he was British by birth and that he was resident in what is now Tuvalu. I am not even certain if he was truly an immigrant as opposed to just bring an expatriate.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
                            Let me phrase. It doesn't matter if he's residing in Canada long enough to be a Canadian. His defining features are that he is British and that he's emigrant to Tuvalu. They have an intersecting child category, so he belongs in that intersecting child category. Mason (talk) 15:22, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Before adding a category to an article, as you did to Category:Illustrators ftom Austria-Hungary, please make sure that the subject of the article really belongs in the category that you specified according to Wikipedia's categorization guidelines. The category being added must already exist, and must be supported by the article's verifiable content. Categories may be removed if they are deemed incorrect for the subject matter. Please be more careful about creating duplicate categories and misspelled ones Mason (talk) 02:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This was an inadvertent typo. Such things happen a lot when one is editing using a cell phone. I much prefer to edit using a computer because typos happen less often. However I do not have as easy access to computers as to cell phones. I have fixed the typo here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please be more careful when you're (re)creating categories. Mason (talk) 02:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to move pages to bad titles contrary to naming conventions or consensus, as you did at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#Category:Immigrants_to_the_Kingdom_of_Prussia, you may be blocked from editing. Please stop recreating categories again consensus. It is extremely disruptive. The category Category:Immigrants_to_the_Kingdom_of_Prussia was merged into Category:Immigrants to Prussia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#Category:Immigrants_to_the_Kingdom_of_Prussia Mason (talk) 21:11, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Old Swiss Confederacy has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Anachronistic place names

We should not apply plave names to people bwfore those places existed. In both India and Germany we have huge numbers of people in categories for being from sub-national units that only existed after the person in question died. This is paired with an even more widespread imposing of current place names on historical places that the place names do not fit for.


In places like Siam/Thailand and a few others we have a place changing its name, but it remains the same. In India though the Bombay Presidency was not equivalent to any modern state. Bombay State was cut in half to make Maharashtra and Gujarat. However the Bombay Presidency also included other areas ending up in other states.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:29, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that you disagree with the current nested nationality structure, but Indian people include numerous variations of their nation-state. I think it's more helpful to their about nationality and country as similar but distinct aspects. Mason (talk) 14:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • I do not think you understand what I am saying at all. If a person lived in Bombay Presidency they should be in Category:People from Bombay Presidency, not for the Category for a place name of a district sub-national unit that only existed after they died. This has nothing to do with what the nationality Category is called because it is a sub-national not a national identity Category at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      You're right, I misunderstood. thanks for clarifing Mason (talk) 15:03, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Small emigrant categories

we have far too many small emigration categories that make navigation harder not easier. I think we would be wise to agree on a minimum size for emigration categories, and upmerge any category that does not have at least some number of entries. I think 5 is a good number. We could upsurge the smaller ones so they are in X country emigrants and Immigrants to y country but not a combined category for both traits.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for merging

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:54, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Old Swiss Confederacy in France has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 22:23, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethnic Albanian activists has been nominated for merging

Category:Ethnic Albanian activists has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethnic Albanian military personnel has been nominated for merging

Category:Ethnic Albanian military personnel has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of Serbia people has been nominated for merging

Category:Kingdom of Serbia people has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of Serbia expatriates has been nominated for merging

Category:Kingdom of Serbia expatriates has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:54, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1850s births categories

Currently 1854 births has 2,634 articles, 1855 births has 2,466 articles and 1856 births has 2,774 articles. This is a fairly high percentage change from year to year.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:59, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from the Kingdom of Great Britain has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:36, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to pre-unification Italy has been nominated for merging

Category:Immigrants to pre-unification Italy has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from pre-Confederation New Brunswick to the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:42, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Dominion of Newfoundland to the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:50, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of Scotland expatriates in France has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Scotland to Denmark has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:52, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Scotland to Sweden has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:54, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Principality of Sedan has been nominated for merging

Category:Principality of Sedan has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Kingdom of Scotland in Principality of Sedan has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:04, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates in the Principality of Sedan has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:05, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Kingdom of Scotland in the Swedish Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Kingdom of Ireland in the Holy Roman Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Kingdom of Ireland in France has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:23, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Painters from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging

Category:Painters from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:26, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Bavaria to the United Kingdom has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 18:22, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • If we drop the Kingdom of Bavaria from this name it will not be obvious that this is meant to be limited to people who left the kingdom of Bavaria. I have tried with the Bavarian emigrants to the United States to limit it to people who left the Kingdom of Bavaria, and to remove those people who were leaving far more recently, such as multiple people who left in the second half of the 20th-century. At issue is that Bavaria the article is an article on the state as it exists today. If someone emigrates from Germany to the United Kingdom today, or did so in 1992, we do not want to have them end up in Bavarian emigrants to the United Kingdom, just because they lived in Munich before they Germany, or even if they lived in Munich all their life before leaving Germany. This is only justifiable during periods of time when Bavaria is a distinct state, with distinct political relations with others. Emigration is at heart a movement from one political unit to another, and so emigrant categories need to be tied to those politcal units. The term Bavarian is not primarily used for residents of the Kingdom of Bavaria, to exclusion of those who lived in Bavaria when it was fully part of larger political entities, so we need to make clear what is meant when we have Bavarian in the name. The actual expericne of people putting people who left after World War II in categories with just the Bavarian name, which is not at all what is meant to be covered in this category, shows why we do not want to use the Bavarian name alone. The article in question is Kingdom of Bavaria and we have :Category:People from the Kingdom of Bavaria which this is a well named child of. It is really the other emigration categories that need to be renamed, not this one.
    • In short with emigrants from the Kingdom of Bavaria we want to make it clear they were leaving the Kingdom of Bavaria, an indepdent state, and not the modern German state of the same name, because if they are leaving the modern German state of Bavaria they would be placed in Bavarian immigrants. We no more would have Bavarian emigrants for those from the modern German state, than we would have Texan emigrants, for people who leave Texas, although it would be justified to have Emigrants from the Republic of Texas, for people who left the Republic of Texas when it was its own seperate country, although I am not sure we have enough article on people who left the Republic of Texas during that time to justify a category. However we would not call people who left the Republic of Texas "Texan emigrants" and just hope that people would not place emigrants later on from Texas under the US in it. We need to be clear what we mean in category names.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:56, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Ahhh this is what you were talking about when you said I ignored your Texas example. Mason (talk) 01:15, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The main point is to make it so we do not place people leaving Germany today in the Emigrants from Bavaria category. I think Emigrants from the Kingdom of Bavaria does it most effectively. I a mnot convinced that it makes sense to treat emigrants from the Electorate of Bavaria as a distinct group from emigrants from the Holy Roman Empire. However from 1806-1815, and from 1866-1871 the Kingdom of Bavaria is a fully independent kingdom. From 1815-1866 it is part of the German Confederation, but that is a very loose grouping of states, and so it seems justfied in that period to categoize emigrants by the state they are leaving. I do not think we want to categorize by their state any German emigrants after 1918, and have doubts we really want to do it after 1871. I think for now the actual size of our emigrant categories means we really do not want to subdivide Category:Emigrants from the Holy Roman Empire by any of the state of the Holy Roman Empire.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:28, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Both of the people in this category came to the United Kingdom before 1871 so they were keaving an independent Bavaria. Someone has pointed out I created some other categpries back in 2010. I have come to think of these categories motlrw clearly and believe that all these categories should use the emigrants from the Kingdom of Bavaria format.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:09, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 23:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think they should be reversed merged. I think this is overall is a subcat of People from the Kingdom of Prilussia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:49, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century musicians from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Albanians in the Ottoman Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Albanians in the Ottoman Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:38, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Albanian people in the Ottoman Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Albanian people in the Ottoman Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Aviators from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Aviators from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Painters from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Painters from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Artists from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Artists from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Musicians from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Musicians from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sportspeople from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:17, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Writers from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Poets from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Poets from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Architects from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging

Category:Architects from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Explorers by ethnicity has been nominated for deletion

Category:Explorers by ethnicity has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Edward-Woodrowtalk 17:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Dutch East Indies of Chinese descent has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 18:39, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of Chinese descent in the Dutch East Indies has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 18:42, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Painters from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging

Category:Painters from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:29, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brewers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging

Category:Brewers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Viceroyalty of New Granada has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:36, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People of the Spanish East Indies has been nominated for merging

Category:People of the Spanish East Indies has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish people in the Spanish Philippines has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:41, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Duchy of Savoy has been nominated for merging

Category:People from the Duchy of Savoy has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Duchy of Savoy has been nominated for renaming

Category:Writers from the Duchy of Savoy has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:47, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ethnic Armenian composers has been nominated for deletion

Category:Ethnic Armenian composers has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Edward-Woodrowtalk 21:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 8 § Category:Ethnic armenian composers on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Edward-Woodrowtalk 21:32, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:17, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Scotland to the Tsardom of Russia has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Medical doctors from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spanish people in Spanish controlled parts of Italy has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1850s births categories

At present the 1850s births categories are these sizes. 1850s births has 487 articles. 1850 births has 2,483 articles. 1851 births has 2,333 articles. 1852 births has 2,511 articles. 1853 births has 2,248 articles. 1854 births has 2,584 articles, 1855 births has 2,471 articles, 1856 births has 2,779 articles, 1857 births has 2,820 articles, 1858 births has 2,974 articles and 1859 births has 3,044 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 11:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Screenwriters from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Screenwriters from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:17, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To call all people in the Russian Empire just "Russian" goes against the fact many would never have identified as being Russian. They were Ukrainian, Tatar, German, Latvian, Finnish, Polish and many other things. The current scholarly trend is to move away from calling people Russian unless they clearly self identified as such and to describe them as from the Russian Empire and of various ethnicities.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point, but current wikipedia consensus is that Russian is the parent category of the russian empire. Mason (talk) 03:44, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think that is a consensus at all. The view has been very strongly challenged in the deletion discussions on the Soviet and Russian emigrants categories. Anyway, Wikipedia is supposed to follow scholarly consensus, and current scholarly consensus is very much against that view.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:46, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Niger Coast Protectorate has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 13:21, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think you can now appeal your topic bans

It has been 12 months since you last appealed. You haven't been blocked once since then! You seem to do a lot of good work in editing categories. If you still wish to appeal, just make sure that your request is to the point, and that you don't make excessive replies.

Previous discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive346#Request_to_overturn_or_at_least_limit_my_topic_ban

2620:8D:8000:10BD:D595:B1C4:DCBF:29B6 (talk) 16:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am considering my options in this regard. I think I want to make my first step to be to at least try and get the scope of the ban on some of my editing lessened, but that will take an appeal to the arbitration committee. I am not sure how to do that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:00, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • John Pack Lambert, I'd be cautious about going back to working on religious stuff though. It just might not be your best area, and they'll be watching you. My 2c. Herostratus (talk) 05:48, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Bohemian Jews has been nominated for renaming

Category:Bohemian Jews has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom of the Netherlands to France has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Place Clichy (talk) 14:33, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Hanseatic City of Lübeck has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:28, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Principality of Schaumburg-Lippe has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:08, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to Ireland (before 1923) has been nominated for merging

Category:Immigrants to Ireland (before 1923) has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:30, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Explorers from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:00, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Poets from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging

Category:Poets from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging

Category:Writers from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kingdom of Scotland expatriates in the Holy Roman Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Scotland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Scotland in the Republic of Venice has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Ireland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates of the Kingdom of Ireland in the Holy Roman Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Kingdom of Serbia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 13:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for deletion

Category:Physicians from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:28, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pirates from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging

Category:Pirates from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Printers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging

Category:Printers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Explorers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging

Category:Explorers from the Dutch Republic has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Egbaland has been nominated for merging

Category:People from Egbaland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:17, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Khanate of Khiva has been nominated for splitting

Category:People from the Khanate of Khiva has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:21, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the New Kingdom of Granada has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:30, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:French people in French Algeria has been nominated for merging

Category:French people in French Algeria has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:42, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Painters from the Republic of Venice has been nominated for merging

Category:Painters from the Republic of Venice has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Expatriates from the Dutch Republic in New Netherland indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Dutch Republic in the Dutch East Indies has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British Burma has been nominated for merging

Category:British Burma has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:German people in German East Africa has been nominated for merging

Category:German people in German East Africa has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[[Category:I am about to add some thoughts on categories to the catehory discussion page.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)]][reply]

Category:Actresses from the German Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Actresses from the German Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Physicians from the Republic of Genoa has been nominated for merging

Category:Physicians from the Republic of Genoa has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:57, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Duchy of Saxe-Meiningen has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Engineers from the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for merging

Category:Engineers from the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 03:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category explanation in English

You may have used Google Translate or a similar AI to translate the description at Category:People from the Free Hanseatic City of Bremen into English. When using such tools, please review the text before saving – as far as I am aware, a city does not have preferred pronouns, and should be referred to as "it" rather than "he". The page should also be referred to as a category rather than an article. – Fayenatic London 10:25, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

    • No, I did not use an AI to create the category description. I just made a simple typo of accidentally saying he instead of it when creating the description. There is a long traidtion in English of assinging humanizing pronouns to some objects, ships at least at one point were almost always called "she", but in this case it was just a simple mistake.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from Portuguese Timor to Macau has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

1850s births

I am in the process of reviewing 1850s births cats. I just started on 1851 births. Currently the sizes are 2,340 in 1850 births, 2,426 in 1852 births, 2,224 in 1853 births, 2,586 in 1854 births, 2,478 in 1855 births and 2,788 in 1856 births.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Czechoslovak pharmacologists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. plicit 12:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Austrian Empire in the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:45, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cartoonists from the Soviet Union has been nominated for merging

Category:Cartoonists from the Soviet Union has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 00:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British people of the Colony of the Bahamas has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to Canada has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to France has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Jamaica to the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the Colony of Jamaica in Canada has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:43, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Artists from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:57, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lawyers from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Scientists from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Musicians from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Engineers from the Colony of New Zealand has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People excommunicated by the Greek Orthodox Church has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:28, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Barbados to the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 17:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Aden emigrants to the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging

Category:Aden emigrants to the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 17:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Barbados has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from British Barbados has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for deletion

Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Prussia has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 21:05, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We just merged this category. Please don't circumvent the deletion process. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 1#Category:Immigrants to the Kingdom of Prussia Mason (talk) 21:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There was no indication when I was creating the Category that it had ever existed. I was not trying to circumvent any processes. I assumed that if I was recreating a Category that had existed it would tell me so. I was not trying to disrupt any processes.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion notification is still on your talk page. I recommend checking the logs before you create more categories. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Category%3AImmigrants+to+the+Kingdom+of+Prussia Mason (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As I said this was a legitimate mistake. I sincere apologize for it and was not trying to circumvent processes.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:22, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I believe you. That's why I suggested two alternative processes that might help you in the future. 1) you check the logs, and 2) my suggestion that we start creating redirects for any categories that you creates to prevent having to keep remerging categories. [2] Mason (talk) 21:29, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have to admit I do not understand why we do not leave redirects in way more cases, at least in one's like this case that is basically assumed to be merging two categories for the sane thing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:46, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • For what it is worth in August 2022 the category People from Prussia was renamed to Category:People from the Kingdom of Prussia. That discussion had 3 editors involved not counting the closing editor. It looks to me like at present the Category:People from the Kingdom of Prussia functions as the only parent cat to various Prussian subcats. I an not sure this makes any sense.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:13, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the relevance of this comment. The problem was that you recreated a category less than a month after it was merged. Mason (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Expatriates from the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:Expatriates from the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:Emigrants from the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Immigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:Immigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:58, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:British emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:British emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If the British Empire is "former", than why do the British still control Montserrat, the British Virgin Islands, Gibraltar, the Falkland Islands and some other places? At a minimum we should not use the word "Former".John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the British Empire to the United States has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:01, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:02, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chinese emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:Chinese emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:French emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:French emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:10, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dutch emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming

Category:Dutch emigrants to the British Empire has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male actors from the Colony of New South Wales has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Actresses from the Colony of New South Wales has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Colony of New South Wales was at various times much more expansive than modern New South Wales. Regime is not the right word. This is a distinct place with a distinct history.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It may be distinct, but it isn't a defining distinction. Mason (talk) 03:48, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Journalists from Dahomey has been nominated for merging

Category:Journalists from Dahomey has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from Dahomey has been nominated for merging

Category:Writers from Dahomey has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from Dahomey has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from Dahomey has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Politicians from Dahomey has been nominated for merging

Category:Politicians from Dahomey has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Dahomey has been nominated for merging

Category:People from Dahomey has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:14, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Duchy of Prussia has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from the Duchy of Prussia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Suicides by firearm in the Czechoslovakia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. FromCzech (talk) 06:44, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prepositions in categories

I am about to post some thoughts on this subject in the talk page for Wikipedia:Categorization.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from the Sultanate of Deli has been nominated for merging

Category:People from the Sultanate of Deli has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:07, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Panna State has been nominated for merging

Category:People from Panna State has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:08, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Graphic artists from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:37, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:World War I pilots from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:39, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Air Force personnel of the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sultanate of Deli has been nominated for deletion

Category:Sultanate of Deli has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Grand dukes from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Grand dukes from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Military personnel of the Napoleonic Wars from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 13:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Russian Empire commanders of the Napoleonic Wars has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 13:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:20th-century painters from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 14:38, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film score composers from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:13, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male film actors from the Russian Empire has been nominated for splitting

Category:Male film actors from the Russian Empire has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Male silent film actors from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 15:26, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Art directors from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Art directors from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:43, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hypnotists from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Hypnotists from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:47, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Prussia to Poland has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Amendment request: Conduct in deletion-related editing

Your amendment request concerning Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct in deletion-related editing has now been archived.

For the Arbitration Committee, –MJLTalk 17:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Engineers from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting

Category:Engineers from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Musicians from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting

Category:Musicians from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Colony of Western Australia has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Writers from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting

Category:Writers from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:09, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:12, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Artists from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting

Category:Artists from the Colony of Victoria has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:14, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Engineers from the Colony of Western Australia has been nominated for splitting. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:16, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Businesspeople from the Colony of Western Australia has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:16, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wanga Kingdom

I noticed that you created a category Category:Wanga Kingdom, and only added the category Category:Africa, which isn't really a helpful category [3]. I think in the future, it would be really helpful if you add at least two categories any time you create a category. And I also think it would be beneficial to the project if you only make categories that you can add 5 or more pages to. I know you have the habit of only adding one or two people to a category before moving on. I think if you identified 5 pages before you made the category, that would help a lot. Mason (talk) 03:16, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded that category to 5 articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Mason (talk) 00:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Sierra Leone to Nigeria has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Malaya has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from British Malaya has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 01:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Emigrants from British Hong Kong has been nominated for merging

Category:Emigrants from British Hong Kong has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason (talk) 02:02, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Geochemists from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging

Category:Geochemists from the Russian Empire has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]