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2006 Pacific hurricane Season

How was the article no longer under construction and i just completed Ioke which is not even in September and Sergio is the last storm which is In Mid-November?--72.193.254.254 (talk) 16:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1982 Atlantic hurricane season has been in limbo for a while. 1996 Pacific hurricane season was worked on a couple of days ago. Maybe you should take this to the WPTC page to ask people when articles should be done in that format.Potapych (talk) 18:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It occurred to me that these types of season articles aren't updated by the bot that fixes redirects when the section headings are moved to the List of... articles. Is there some other way to do that? There should be redirects for every storm linked directly to the storm's section.Potapych (talk) 01:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Josephine

Someone keeps on making the page for Josephine even thought a few things are there that I pointed out to him/her

  • Not Notable- No landfall,deaths,or damage.
  • No Storm History
  • Copy of season article

Any thoughts? --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 edits!!!' 19:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Small Request

See here. Thanks - rst20xx (talk) 15:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Couple queries

Hey, I'm in the process of finalising track uploads (when you have over 7000 of the things you take your time about it!). I've been cross-checking against the articles to ensure everything is properly named and so on and came across a couple issues:

  1. The lede in the old Atlantic seasons has moved from the over precise "June 15 to November 30" to "summer and early fall". That got my attention due to the US English (which isn't an issue), but should we describe a tropical situation with temperate seasons? I feel that's showing bias towards N America, and is still vague - when does summer start?. "June to November" (or October) seems better, whilst referring to the seasons seems unnecessarily vague.
  2. Rather more important: Should the tracks for Atlantic storms include the extratropical phase? Unless you have any thoughts otherwise, I'll default to "yes" - We talk about European impact when it occurs and (except for Vince) that is extratropical impact. Therefore we care about the XT phase, so it makes sense to include the full track for storms like Maria.--Nilfanion (talk) 10:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks for the responses. What I'll do is upload the full tracks for everything. If a restricted track is preferable, the usual revert and discuss model makes sense. Mitch is certainly a case where a restricted track seems sensible. It may be beneficial to use the Mitch tracks to allow broader discussion.
The storm I had in mind was Chris 2000 - the minimum ACE storm. Mind you EPac storms are even more boring, as they usually don't have the potential to do damage (The NHC did say Chris could have been a hurricane at one point...)
Oh, if you are interested I can email you a HURDAT-format data set for the N Indian from 1877-1945. Mind you only one of those 800 storms is mentioned on WP (the 1942 Bengal one).--Nilfanion (talk) 17:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does this look reliable enough? :P--Nilfanion (talk) 22:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for spotting that: the article parser clearly did not find the multiple coordinates embedded in the article: I'll re-check the article parser, and the heuristics that should have found this error before the bot run started. -- The Anome (talk) 23:32, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel was almost retired People thought that WMO approved the request that type in Hurricane Daniel should not get Tropical Storm Daniel. --Yellow Evan (talk) 23:39, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answers have arrived

Most of the time when i notice a spelling mistake, i fix it withing 6 hours. Grammar, I catch several days later. And i read the five pillars of Wikipedia.

 Also about Julio rainfall was in inch the question is how much time? Once I saw it rain an inch per hour. Thats heavy. 

Back to the sentence about Julio, it later says enough to cause flooding in Interstate 17. Mabey it is heavy? I think it should say moderate.--Yellow Evan (talk) 14:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know when they started using letters?

Do you know when the NHC/EPHC started to place letters after the numbers for depressions in the eastern Pacific hurricane seasons? I've been wondering since the AMS journals do not use them, but the CPHC archives have after 1979 (which is a completely inactive year in that basin).Potapych (talk) 14:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It just says here [1] that Greg (1981) started as TD8E. I don't know how accurate the CPHC reports are, so I am a bit confused.Potapych (talk) 15:10, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think it looks better to not use the letter before 1988? There are a few seasons in the early 80s which have depressions number 1C, 2C, etc. so we can at least tell when that system was in effect. Oddly enough, in 1978 I found a central Pacific tropical depression that was numbered 10A.Potapych (talk) 19:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dalila

Do you think that the sandbox is good? It is here. --Elena85 | Talk to Me | 1000 edits!!!' 20:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of PH, MH of Hurricane Flossie (2007) , Efects of Hurricane Kathleen (1976) in SW, Hurricane Flossie (2007) ,Kathleen and Mexico(1943) GA ,and new storm articles.

My first question is should we do they same formating we do for List of Atlantic Hurricanes because the page is 62 kb over the limit. Second of All, Hurricane Flossie should redirect to Hurricane Flossie (2007), not Tropical Storm Flossie and as a recall it even said it on a talk page.

Also, about Kathleen i think they should be an article about its affects in the SW and including Nevada became it's info on Hurricane Kathleen is stubby.

Back to Flossie, i am ready to work on MH of Hurricane Flossie.

I also think that there is several storms that should get articles (a already talk about Bright) and thats way it is not includid on the list.

Tropical Depression Five (2008)

Tropical Storm Douglas (2008)

Hurricane Doreen (1977)The wettest TC ever recored in Nevada.

Hurricane Estele (1986)

Hurricane Orlene (1992)

Hurricane Fausto (2002)

Hurricane Daniele (2000)

tropical Storm Alvin (2007)

Hurricane Jova (2005)

Hurricane Fausto (1996)

Tropical Storm Hazel (1965)

Hurricane Otis (2005)

Hurricane Max (2005)

hurricane Hillary (2005)

Also I think Kathleen and Mantazan should be GA's.

I hope you have a happy editing.

--Yellow Evan (talk) 23:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Other page

hi! I left a remark for you on my talk site. Assuredly (talk) 03:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HOF update

Hey Hink! Long time, no see. I just wanted to let you know that if the current cost estimates stand, Hurricanes Gustav and Ike will qualify for automatic induction and will be inducted with the Class of 2009. You may have noticed I'm trying to make good on my promise to get a section for every storm back to 1900. I did 1923 and am working on 1921. -- HurricaneERIC - Class of '08: XVII Maius MMVIII 23:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

list of Pacific hurricanes and new storm articles

At 4PM today I made List of Pacific hurricanes a dab. It got reverted, in fact Juliancolton gave me this message below.

Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of Pacific hurricanes, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even ClueBlot reverted the edit but I reported a false statement and I switched it back..

Also, it should be noted that I am creating many storm articles. I already started in fact I created the Hurricane Otis (2005) at AM (PDT) this morning. You are more than welcome too help and any questions ask me. If you go on my user page you see many things including the new article for Ekeka (Right now it is mainly a copy and paste) and Max.--Yellow Evan (talk) 03:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer back!

My question was that Is Hillary or Otis unneeded. They both Impacted land. Max is notable for merging with Lilinda. i am working on both Jova and Fausto.if you think the is an error go ahead in fix it this is an encyclopedia that anyone could edit and it is free. My question was that Is Hillary or Otis unneeded. They both Impacted land. Max is notable for merging with Lilinda. i am working on both Jova and Fausto.if you think there is an error go ahead in fix it. This is an encyclopedia that anyone could edit and it is free. Iris is terrible and stubby. i also gave so many request and you only answered one of them. Thats why half are already done. If you tell me do not do it I would have cancled my plans and moved on to something else. --Yellow Evan (talk) 03:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to mention Ekeka. It needed because it formed in January. The same reason we have Hurricane Alice and that was only a Category 1 Ekeka was a Category 3. it was not a fish spinnewr because it passed through the Marsall Isalnds as a Tropical Storm. I also thought of doing MH,s for: Flossie Elida Guilmenio --Yellow Evan (talk) 03:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is my policy, I start a page and work on it then I release the article and tity it up a little more. i am also doing this because from January 2006-February 2008 EPHC articles population grew. But recently we only got some Tropical Storm/ Do you aprrove MH for all the page if you don not answer I will start the pages. --Yellow Evan (talk) 04:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you forgot Mantalzan and Boris. Those were both hits.Super Tuesday Nor'ester will problily become one. MH stands for Meteorological history. --Yellow Evan (talk) 04:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i did reread the post and the rson why I unmerge it b ecause most of the time I am trying to fix it an example of this is Hurricane Hernan (2008) were i said stop merging the page and I am trying to fix it also between and before the conversation I was working on Hurricane Fausto (2002) article. Do you think it is better.Answer after reading this as i did before. --Yellow Evan (talk) 13:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unmad Hurricane

Should we rename the 1975 Transcolorado Hurricane the 1975 Canada hurricane because everyone nows were Canada is.--Yellow Evan (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

answer

No, being a member of the WPTC hear at wikipedia is a enough for me. Also,I do not think one person can do an article alone. I think two editor can do a whole article thats the reason I. Thats why start by copying and pasting. That gives me a start for an article. I am going to dig a little deeper in my policy, i open up many tabs and windows to do the pages.--Yellow Evan (talk) 14:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no, see above.--Yellow Evan (talk) 17:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to me on a talk page copy and paste if you like.--Yellow Evan (talk) 18:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will think about it.--Yellow Evan (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wiil be on for 40 minuts.--Yellow Evan (talk) 19:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have a problem some parts of my pages are not going though on User:Yellow Evan/Meteorological history of Hurricane Guillermo. Its the template and the refs that is not working.--Yellow Evan (talk) 02:58, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to close the ref tag. I say "ref tag" and not "ref tags" because you only used one reference. You will need about 20 more references (and at least 6 times as much prose) before the article can be published. Plasticup T/C 03:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think this one is better than my others?--Yellow Evan (talk) 16:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is better, but it still only has three references. It needs to be 4-5 times longer than that and have closer to 20 references. It is certainly a good start and I look forward to your continued expansion of it before publication. Plasticup T/C 16:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Erm, it's in the mainspace. Yellow Evan, please read up on policy before creating more articles. It hardly looks better, and as Plasticup noted it needs to be longer and it needs more citations. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA for Juliancolton

Dear Hurricanehink, I've supported him. :-) AdjustShift (talk) 15:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreements concerning importance of Ike affecting me at work

I received a phone call at work yesterday morning from someone feeling emphatically that the damage from Ike earned it a Top importance, even though death toll, size, and strength do not appear to warrant Top, and that I should go to an administrator or file complaints for this individual using wikipedia channels to support his argument. After finally finding the page, and reading the overall content, it appears a few people in the discussion could have been guilty of going off-topic and not being civil. I'm not pointing blame here...I'm just trying to say that we should all be civil or avoid angry mastadons when at all possible, and just allow arguments to drop quickly, if at all possible. I've had problems with this in the past, and appear to have reformed (I think so anyway.)

This is the second time a wikipedia disagreement followed me to work since I joined the project, but it was the first time it came out of the blue like that. If this starts happening regularly, work could elect to ask me to stop contributing to this wikipedia project. We need to be very careful with allowing disagreements from getting personal (I should know from past occurrences) or else people won't feel welcome to contribute to the articles within this project. Or, even worse, we'll get phone calls at home and work. Google does have everyone's address and phone number, doesn't it? I'm not an administrator here, nor do I wish to be, because life is complicated enough with me contributing to these articles, occasionally on work hours, and being a NOAA employee. I don't want the TC project to become like the global warming article, where it appears a couple of people practice WP:OWN policies on the page, and my phone at work begins to ring off the hook due to wikipedia disagreements. That's not good for me nor the project. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Google does have everyone's name and number, but you can request that they remove it. ETA, I didn't call you or anyone here ever about anything and I never would. I don't care about article importance.Potapych (talk) 21:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh God, I hope that silly dispute doesn't get you in trouble. In the unlikely (I hope) something like that happens again, feel free to punt it back to here, which is where these disputes belong. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 22:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diana and Klaus of 1990

Word on the street was that those names were retired due to their 1984 versions. For Diana, the 1984 version was a category 4 hurricane just offshore NC, which caused a media frenzy. Also, recon problems (positioning errors related to an errant LORAN positioning system) led to some question as to whether Diana came ashore at category 4 or 2 strength. It was a shock when Diana was reused in 1990, and there was talk of its retirement even before Diana's impact on Mexico was known. There's no proof of this of course...it was word of mouth at the time, and well before the internet took off, so I'd use whatever the NOAA page said, of course. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Allow me to introduce myself. I'm new to Wikipedia, which is also my main place to have fun by working on my user subpages. Turns out I'm not the only one who likes TCs; I signed up for WP:TROP and found out that you're one of the earliest ones on the list (I'm only that early in the list because I put myself in alphabetical order just before E. Brown, I'm actually one of the ten newest members of WP:WPTC). I don't have much going yet, but some day, if I work hard at it for a while, maybe I can be where you are today (which few members of WP:TROP are). Drop by sometime, you can check what I do have going.--Dylan620 (talk) 21:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, Hurricane Ignacio (2003) is being nominated as being part of a featured topic. The nominator hasbn't notified you, so I'm notifying you now. Pie is good (Apple is the best) 00:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

image glitch

Ah, thanks indeed for this, Hurricanehink. Lightmouse asked me to test the latest fix, and clearly it needs to account for what I take to be a "Commons" location string. I've reported it [User_talk:Lightmouse/wishlist#any_news_on_avoiding_image.2C_quotation.2C_cite_title_strings.3F|here]]. Tony (talk) 04:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Why

Thats because on the article in the infobox it said 35 knots. --Yellow Evan (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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junky article

i think Guliermo,s storm history of Gulimenmo is a peice of junk, they could be more than this? My first storm article that was not craeted by me will be Hurricane Kathleen (1976) --Yellow Evan (talk) 22:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think there are any issues to Hurricane Kathleen (1976)?--Yellow Evan (talk) 00:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I would like to request, 1998 Pacific hurricane season for October 20th for the Todays Featured Article. Before I do this, I would of course like to ask a senior hurricane editor like yourself, if you think it is good enough for this. It is the 10 yr ann. of end of season so that is why I would like your opinion. -Marcusmax (talk) 01:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course, not only is he a senior hurricane editor, but the main contributor to the article. :) If I might have an opinion, I'd say it's a tad too soon after the recent Hurricane Gloria addition to the Main Page, though as it is a 10 year anniversary, it might work just fine. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 02:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What hurricane article isn't he the main editor on, this guy is a genius. Yeah I though the same thing about Hurricane Gloria, but the admins who run that place said it wasn't much of an issue. -Marcusmax (talk) 02:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay thanks for the advice -Marcusmax (talk) 20:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Hello there (a.k.a. Homework)

Sadly, I'm in seventh grade, which means my time on Wikipedia will sometimes be restricted by homework (as was the case with last night; I could barely even get on the computer because of both a virus scan and so much homework that I didn't go to bed until 10 o'clock at night!) However, I will occasionally get a break from the mighty overload (particularly on Sunday; it's the only day of the week that I'm nearly guaranteed little to no homework), and spend time on Wikipedia. I have to go now; my break's almost over. :-( --Dylan620 (talk) 20:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1939 Long bech Hurricane

why should the Long Beach hurricane should be called the California tropical storm. compare with the San Diego Hurricane. It was also a hurricane.--Yellow Evan (talk) 22:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User pages

When you get on a stable internet connection, come and see my user pages. (You probably have one, but I'm not sure if you need one to edit on Wikipedia.) Have fun! :-) --Dylan620 (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

G rewive answer

Remember, I am the newest person at the WPTC and I am not expected to do it perfectly.It wiil take a few moiuths and I am still the person who created the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellow Evan (talkcontribs)

What are referring to? You really need to use a browser with spellcheck because it is hard to understand anything you write. This is why you should not create dozens of unintelligible articles.Potapych (talk) 23:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lowell

Compare to Maria. It was part of the season article at one point so blame however put this on the page.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 04:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maria

Maria's death in the US was with Nate. Maria merge with an extratropical system before it hit Norway.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 13:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please

Please never ask me a questing about school grammar again.People learn for an encyclopedia which would be an interesting fact in CSU. The real issue is that TCR is not out. Mabey will will merge it but will unmerge it when the TCR comes out. Note: Normally I hate merging but we will unmerege when the TCR comes out.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 14:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any task

Do you know of any articles that need work.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 14:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Semi retire

I am semi retire for wikipedia but I will probably come back for a while.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 17:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

why did you dealted my sandbox. I am very mad please apologize to me!--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 19:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

I would give you the generic templatespam, but I figured as my nominator, you're one of the select few that deserve a hand-written thank you. Remember when I was new here? I was clueless, annoying, and I was a textbook n00b. Thanks to your efforts, I've worked my way through Wikipedia, and now 22,000 edits later, here I am as an administrator. Though this has been said many times before with little meaning, I wouldn't be where I am without your tireless efforts putting up with me, when I was creating those utterly crappy articles back in November. As an aside, you've gained a reputation for nominating only the best users! ;-) Thanks again for the nomination, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you are receiving this message because you voted in the last FAC for this article. Currently, it is undergoing a peer review and I invite you to come view the page and offer any suggestions for improvement here [2]. Over the past three months, the page has been improved with additional scholarly works, trims, two new sections suggested in and attention to concerns raised during the last FAC. Thanks in advance for your time, attention and help to bring this important article to FA. NancyHeise talk 23:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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reason

I changed my mined about merging the HM template.do you Know how it now hit would look if we merge.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 15:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i did not know and I use the TCR to tell us anything. We can change are minds.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 15:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First, i will by reading some sport articles (and editing them)after that I have a few things to do around my house. Then I will began to work on Norman.--Leave Message orYellow Evan home 15:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter FAC

Hi there,

I've left a reply on the FAC page, sorry for it being so slow! Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Harry Potter.

The Helpful One Review 15:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see FAC again, I have added some citations for plots where I could find them, however. The Helpful One Review 16:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no

incorrect. you don't have much of a life to be doing some of the things you do. your actions are suspect and you are wrong. you don't even implement principles the correct way; you will be stopped. Assuredly (talk) 19:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again

Hey Hurricanehink, remember about a week ago when you asked me what kind of storm articles I wish to create? I'm trying to create articles on storms that are either notable enough for articles, or are the very most recent storm. My latest chance came with Subtropical Storm Laura (2008), which was created before I even woke up this morning. And Yellow Evan beat me to the creation of Hurricane Fausto (2002), which I very nearly got started on in my sandbox. Oh well, maybe I'll have better luck with Marie in the Eastern Pacific, assuming she pops up anytime soon.

P.S.: I'm on your side. I saw that threat you got from Assuredly, and I hope you pull out okay. Maybe I could block Assuredly for personal attacks on you, when I learn how to block people, and if things get worse. --Dylan620 (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hurricanehink. You have new messages at TravisTX's talk page.
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1949 hurricane

I'm facing a complexing conundrum in regards to my article on the 1949 Florida hurricane. The official NOAA list assigns a Category 3 impact in the state of Florida, based on the standard Saffir-Simpson standards for one-minute winds at the surface. However, according to my resources, the HURDAT database contradicts the official United States landfall data: it lists the storm as a strong Category 4 hurricane in southeast Florida. The 150 mph (240 km/h) winds in HURDAT are based on an elevated reading of 153 mph (246 km/h) from the Jupiter Inlet Light, according to Bryan Norcross' Hurricane Almanac. A conversion from the elevated site would result in lower sustained values at the surface. Unfortunately, Norcross indicates the reduction would result in a surface value around 132 mph, which is situated near the boundary of Category 3 and 4 status. In most cases, I would consider the United States landfall list from NOAA as the official source for landfall intensities; however, a specific maximum sustained surface wind is preferred in lieu of a general range. I have not unveiled any sources with a specific estimate of the surface winds at landfall; the exception is the 150 mph intensity in HURDAT. In addition, the system can't be simultaneously classified as a Category 3 and 4 hurricane at landfall; the Saffir-Simpson Scale is based on maximum sustained winds at the surface, so an authoritative/definite SSHS classification is necessary. A tropical cyclone can't be a Category 4 landfall (based on winds above the surface) and a Category 3 strike (based on MSW values at the surface). This is extremely agitating, so any help would be appreciated. CVW (Talk) 04:06, 02 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Elna 85 edits

Elna 85 is making constructive edits to this in MY userpage. i let people edit my non-make up stuff without permission. Mu problem is I am not an admastor and you are I told her to aplogize and she would not. I asked her to fix to Infobox on my page. It never hurts too ask, right. She said No which is ok but she went crazy. Should would we rellay let her know? Leave Message orYellow Evan home 19:54, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We have no idea what you're talking about. Again, is English your first language? –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I may have gotten a little upset but please, Yellow Evan, stop making new fake hurricanes and Stop Accusing People of Vandalizing! I may have vandalized then but I have seen you say that people are vandalizing when they merge your articles or something else but remember, you do not own articles! By the way, this is from a 12-year old. I put this message here because I know that you (Evan) will see this here and not ignore me!

--Rose09 Rashmi Next 20:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

if I would be treated better I will treat you better if other users treat you better.Leave Message orYellow Evan home 20:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Back

Welcome back hink, good to see ya again....well, see you type i guess :D. Haha thanks for helping out with Norbert, now I can get back to the others I've been making. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Welcome back again, and the is two tasks that you need to do at WPTC talk page. One is to answer the dussicoin about our EPAC articles. Then we can meet a standard. On Sunday while we were this dussicion I made a list to make articles (I know it is not the article request page) of EPAC storms that we can do. You can help.Leave Message orYellow Evan home 13:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you two know, and for anyone else, I am still on break, effective of this edit. Last night was a fluke; I will not be resuming editing for a while, probably until December. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, ok. Hope to see ya then. Have fun. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You were gone...what? Two days? Good luck getting to December. ;-) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 17:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See you on December. don't be surprised if you see many new articles. Your the best.Leave Message orYellow Evan home 14:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

Hi Hurri'Hink.... I was looking at your sandbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hurricanehink/Sandbox and I think you should go ahead with it... ITS BRILLIANT. I will help soon. Itfc+canes=me (talk) 19:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not complete. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your article Meteorological history of Hurricane Kyle (2002) has been reviewed and passed GA. Good work as usual! Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See you in a bit

Sounds like we're all slowly but surely withdrawing from wikipedia as the years go by. Hope all goes well for you in the interim. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FACR

Hurricanehink/Archive 15, you posted at one or more of the recent discussions of short FAs. There's now a proposal to change the featured article criteria that attempts to address this. Please take a look and consider adding your comments to the straw poll there. Mike Christie (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After some discussion, Juliancolton and I have been wondering: do you think that Hurricane Kate (2003) is ready to be a FAC? You're the main contributor to the article, so we wanted your word in particular. Dylan620 Life story 14:51 UTC October 13, 2008

Your opposition of Kate (2003) FA nomination

I see why you opposed Kate's nomination for FAC; the storm isn't very notable, as it never made landfall. But then again, at the same time, I don't see why you opposed Kate's FAC; although not notable, it does meet the notability guidelines for featured articles, per this. Also, there are storms that haven't made landfall, and have received featured articles; examples of such storms are Hurricane Ioke and Hurricane Irene (2005) (although Irene is much more suitable as an example because Ioke set numerous records; Irene only set one). My decision is to leave the nomination page up. Sorry, but very few Wikipedians have left comments about the nomination; I want to see what other people think first. Your opposition is the first this nomination has seen so far. Lounge with Dylan620 today! 22:46 UTC October 17, 2008

You won out; the nomination fell through, and Hurricane Kate (2003) was not promoted to featured article status. Next time, I'll take more care when nominating an article for FAC or GAC. You were right, and I was wrong, and I'm sorry if I caused you any trouble.

You may or may not be interested because it has nothing to do with WPTC, but after learning from my mistakes, I nominated the Rocko's Modern Life article at GAC, with some help from a Wikipedian called WhisperToMe. I'd best be going; enjoy the rest of your Wikibreak (you'll probably want to be back by Christmas; I'll have a surprise for you then). :-) Lounge with Dylan620 today! 09:37 UTC October 20, 2008

Recent GA proposals

Max and Otis were in rather bad shape when they were GAC/GAN/GARed this morning. I reviewed Otis, since it was in such horrible shape, and improved Max, since some simple changes helped improve it from stub/start to C class. Does the person who proposed these articles for GA understand what is required for articles to reach GA? Thegreatdr (talk) 23:16, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for every storm

The project is split even about doing articles for every storm and then to answer your question three guidelines were proposed at project talk page two never gotten of the ground another was to duplicate mine.I am trying to propose another. When you have a change cast you vote in at the project or my talk page. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/Sandbox 13:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't agree with this redirection. As the article, which you converted to redirect twice writes, this storm was the first example of a crossover tropical cyclone between the two oceans since Cesar-Douglas in 1996. It's probably the only crossover tropical cyclone to be a Tropical Storm. This is a specific meteorological phenomenon, which consists of two parts. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added a message to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones. Maybe we find a solution there. Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 21:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

I have a proposal for you: if you're available, can you please adopt me? You know, via the Adopt-a-User scheme? I have hopes of being an experienced administrator someday, with the proper knowledge of how to operate anti-vandalism gadgets like Twinkle, and the ability of easily performing administrative tasks. I would also like to learn how to write featured articles, and learn the GA criteria so that I can do professional GA reviews. And lastly, I would like to learn how to establish, program, and operate bot accounts. I figured that a successful administrator (like you) would make a perfect mentor. If you accept, I will make a dedicated subpage within my userspace. --Dylan620 (Homeyadda yadda yaddaOoooohh!) 20:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, if you're still away, and don't intend to return for a while, I'll go ask Juliancolton (talk · contribs) for mentorship. Stay relaxed, and happy Halloween! --Dylan620 (Homeyadda yadda yaddaOoooohh!) 18:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricanehink, why why you saying saying that no names were retired because Ioke was retired and Daniel request retirement. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/SandboxHappy Nevada Day 22:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ioke was retired by the CPHC, not the NHC, which would have been responsible for retiring Fabio. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:28, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was still retired since the NHC and the CPHC are considered together. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/SandboxHappy Nevada Day 01:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By what standards? The NHC is responsible for a different basin. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:23, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But the article is for storms in the CPHC too also if anyone would retire Fabio it would likely be Hawaii. Leave Message orYellow Evan home or User:Yellow Evan/SandboxHappy Nevada Day 03:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not really; the storm was primarily a tropical cyclone in the EPac. It only affected Hawaii as a remnant rainstorm. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 03:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]