User talk:Habesha212
March 2024
Hello, I'm Padgriffin. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Kingdom of Aksum—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Padgriffin Griffin's Nest 00:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- The fabrications on this page are appalling hence why the sources are so poor. An Agenda driven page should not be allowed Habesha212 (talk) 08:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I actually quite strongly agree with you that the sources are unacceptable & the information bad. However, you've really got to make the case well in order to remove sources material, or the edits just won't last. In the present instance, this is going to be slow work. Pathawi (talk) 12:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have provided sources as well as a strong argument, the individual is too belligerent to make the changes. Habesha212 (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- You have made 19 edits, and none of them cite a specific source. You will also have to stop with the personal attacks immediately. If you can't comment on content without insinuating your fellow editors have some insidious agenda, then you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Remsense诉 14:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have made coherent arguments and provided sources on the talk page, which I stated earlier and is visible to all. I do not have to claim insidious agenda when it is clear the sources are poor, the US printing office is indicative of such. Please do not use language to try and disarm me. The person in question is belligerent that is clear all over the talk page. Habesha212 (talk) 15:08, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you don't have to claim it, then don't claim it. You are required to assume good faith in other editors, full stop. Remsense诉 15:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well no I am not, since it is clear in their interactions and the sources that their intentions is not to be honest but rather to skew history.The flagrant lie that Ezana promoted the script in the 4th century and that a foreign language and script was used prior, not to mention he claims annexation of an area that never happened is a deliberate fabrication. They have created two pages with erroneous information.I have every right to call it out and I am not required to do anything. Habesha212 (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- You are, unfortunately. Further personal attacks will result in a visit to ANI, final warning. Remsense诉 15:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, the purpose of wikipedia is to discuss it on the talk page and provide sources which I have. Please do not threaten me and you will have to prove personal attacks. Calling someone belligerent which they clearly have been to several people is not a personal attack, it is a fact. I realise you do not actually address what I write but rather resort to threats. Habesha212 (talk) 15:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Remsense诉 15:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, the purpose of wikipedia is to discuss it on the talk page and provide sources which I have. Please do not threaten me and you will have to prove personal attacks. Calling someone belligerent which they clearly have been to several people is not a personal attack, it is a fact. I realise you do not actually address what I write but rather resort to threats. Habesha212 (talk) 15:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- You are, unfortunately. Further personal attacks will result in a visit to ANI, final warning. Remsense诉 15:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well no I am not, since it is clear in their interactions and the sources that their intentions is not to be honest but rather to skew history.The flagrant lie that Ezana promoted the script in the 4th century and that a foreign language and script was used prior, not to mention he claims annexation of an area that never happened is a deliberate fabrication. They have created two pages with erroneous information.I have every right to call it out and I am not required to do anything. Habesha212 (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you don't have to claim it, then don't claim it. You are required to assume good faith in other editors, full stop. Remsense诉 15:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have made coherent arguments and provided sources on the talk page, which I stated earlier and is visible to all. I do not have to claim insidious agenda when it is clear the sources are poor, the US printing office is indicative of such. Please do not use language to try and disarm me. The person in question is belligerent that is clear all over the talk page. Habesha212 (talk) 15:08, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- You have made 19 edits, and none of them cite a specific source. You will also have to stop with the personal attacks immediately. If you can't comment on content without insinuating your fellow editors have some insidious agenda, then you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Remsense诉 14:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I have provided sources as well as a strong argument, the individual is too belligerent to make the changes. Habesha212 (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- I actually quite strongly agree with you that the sources are unacceptable & the information bad. However, you've really got to make the case well in order to remove sources material, or the edits just won't last. In the present instance, this is going to be slow work. Pathawi (talk) 12:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
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⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 16:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Page Ban restriction from Kingdom of Aksum and Talk:Kingdom of Aksum
Hello. This message is to notify you that you are subject to a page ban restriction from Kingdom of Aksum and Talk:Kingdom of Aksum for 1 year, due to your disruptive editing. As a reminder, that article is subject to increased scrutiny and additional remedies as authorized by the Arbitration Committee here. During your page ban, you may not edit the listed article, it's associated talk page, or any subpages of either the article or talk page. Violations of this page ban will result in you being indefinitely blocked from editing. If you wish to appeal this restriction, you may do so through the standard appeals process. This enforcement action is being logged at Wikipedia:Arbitration_enforcement_log/2024#Horn_of_Africa_(CT/HORN). ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 16:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
April 2024
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Sabean colonization of Africa. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Skitash (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- The pages need to be reviewed there is a running theme here. I have now provided updated data. Thank you 2A02:C7C:36FF:3600:D9E4:167C:7D4F:754A (talk) 22:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your "updated data" is unreferenced, and also appears to be a copyright violation. I'm starting to see a running theme here as well.⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 23:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Where is the copyright violation? Taken from a scholarly source
- THE ARCHAEOLOGY OF ANCIENT ERITREA, Edited by Peter R. Schmidt, Matthew C. Curtis and Zelalem Teka 2A02:C7C:36FF:3600:D9E4:167C:7D4F:754A (talk) 23:41, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Do you want to explain why it was reverted and why you have allowed other material which is not referenced nor provides any sources on that page? I would like an explanation as to such. I have gone to the talk page and explained why the data is old so the question is why are you prohibiting such information Habesha212 (talk) 23:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Unsourced and copied from [1] (although perhaps it's copied from your the source you mentioned, doesn't matter it is still a violation. @Swatjester I think further sanctions may be needed. Doug Weller talk 08:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- It is copied from the source which is clear to see. Since I have understood the intention with these pages is not to be honest nor is it to provide accurate information with valid sources. The pages on Eritrea/Ethiopia all follow a theme and the page in question mentions colonization of Zimbabwe by south Arabians which is very old Eurocentric
- tripe.
- https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/aug/18/great-zimbabwe-medieval-lost-city-racism-ruins-plundering
- In fact I have also noticed something on the page which exposes the page in itself. So please do leave the page as it is.
- Regards Habesha212 (talk) 08:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- All encyclopedic content on Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), which means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic
- Clearly the above is not happening. Habesha212 (talk) 08:42, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Unsourced and copied from [1] (although perhaps it's copied from your the source you mentioned, doesn't matter it is still a violation. @Swatjester I think further sanctions may be needed. Doug Weller talk 08:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your "updated data" is unreferenced, and also appears to be a copyright violation. I'm starting to see a running theme here as well.⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 23:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
The following sanction now applies to you:
topic banned from all pages including discussions relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes
You have been sanctioned for continued disruptive editing after warnings, ANI discussions and breaching their earlier topic ban
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Horn of Africa#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
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It seems that with your recent contributions to the Ge'ez script talkpage you are violating the above topic ban, which appears to have not yet been lifted. I think you are aware of the consequences of this. LandLing 00:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I was responding to a comment and rightfully so. This is a form of violence to silence certain members. Habesha212 (talk) 07:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Have it your way. LandLing 16:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- You do not get to respond to comments on an area where you are topic banned. A topic ban is complete and unconditional -- you are not allowed to participate on *any* pages or discussions relating to the topic. There is no exception for "I was just responding to someone." The terms of your sanction were explained quite clearly to you, and you've had ample opportunity to review the applicable policy. It appears that lesser sanctions are not going to work, and that the underlying behavior problems that the topic ban and partial blocks previously instituted were intended to address, are still here. As such, we'll have to implement more significant sanctions. ⇒SWATJester Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 17:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I asked you to provide a clear and coherent response as to why i was banned, not merely tell me that I was. In what way was my comment a violation and why am I not allowed to participate/engage in the Ge'ez script page. People can respond to me and yet I can not do the same. Why have I been banned on Ge'ez page, what violation occurred there? It is blatant silencing and you have exposed the nature of wikipedia. I have screenshotted and exposed the conduct on these sites. Habesha212 (talk) 10:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, it's just you unhappy that you have to follow the rules for a topic ban like anyone else. A topic ban restricts your right to edit and that's been clearly explained to you. Your post should not have been made, and the fact that someone responded to you doesn't mean that you can then keep breaking the topic ban. Go ahead and post whatever you want to offline, no one here cares. Doug Weller talk 15:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could you attempt to respond to my question or not? Habesha212 (talk) 16:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- diverting from it, is not helping you. Why does me responding to a comment on the Ge'ez script consitute a violation and what is the violation? Habesha212 (talk) 16:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- recording it all so that everyone is aware of your conduct. Habesha212 (talk) 16:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I responded to your question. You clearly don’t understand your topic ban despite the fact it clearly says “ topic banned from all pages including discussions relating to the Horn of Africa (defined as including Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and adjoining areas if involved in related disputes”. Doug Weller talk 19:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- recording it all so that everyone is aware of your conduct. Habesha212 (talk) 16:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, it's just you unhappy that you have to follow the rules for a topic ban like anyone else. A topic ban restricts your right to edit and that's been clearly explained to you. Your post should not have been made, and the fact that someone responded to you doesn't mean that you can then keep breaking the topic ban. Go ahead and post whatever you want to offline, no one here cares. Doug Weller talk 15:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I asked you to provide a clear and coherent response as to why i was banned, not merely tell me that I was. In what way was my comment a violation and why am I not allowed to participate/engage in the Ge'ez script page. People can respond to me and yet I can not do the same. Why have I been banned on Ge'ez page, what violation occurred there? It is blatant silencing and you have exposed the nature of wikipedia. I have screenshotted and exposed the conduct on these sites. Habesha212 (talk) 10:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
July 2024
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