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August 2013

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Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to MacEwan LRT Station. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. 117Avenue (talk) 05:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Template:ETS LRT route, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. 117Avenue (talk) 01:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who deleted my first page?

Can someone tell me who deleted the first page I had worked on for days on end? It was a good article, I added lots of sources, and it was noteworthy. Can someone tell me who deleted it? It really hurts me because I spent days working on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 01:34, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why not write Metro Line (Edmonton)? 117Avenue (talk) 05:57, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Gingeroscar, I agree that it was premature to have an article on the Valley Line on Wikipedia. To show that your efforts are not lost however, I have pasted the last version of the article into your sandbox, which can be accessed at User:Gingeroscar/sandbox. Feel free to continue to edit and refine it there until such time it is appropriate and not premature to transfer it to article space. Hwy43 (talk) 18:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edmonton LRT Capital Line Route template

I have moved this to {{Edmonton LRT Capital Line Route}}. Please note that you simply failed to use the Template: namespace.

I'm not competent to help as you requested, but I have made a couple of minor edits to the template, and moved your plea to the template talk page. Not the help you hoped for, but some help! Fiddle Faddle 09:06, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for it but why did you delete the part about what contributions were requested?
I didn't. I moved it where it belongs - to the talk page.. I have had a go at the layout, and also failed. Btw, please sign messages on talk pages iwth ~~~~, wich translates by magic to your signature Fiddle Faddle 09:26, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have scratched my head some more over this template. I have a suggestion for you.
Recreate it in your sandbox, line by line, using preview as you go, line by line. In this manner you will isolate the precise element that causes you problems.
Once you have done that you can replace the part entire template that neither you nor I can get right with the working model. You will also learn an enormous amount about the deployment of this template which will be valuable to you (seeing your interest in rail). I don't share your interest. I arrived to handle a technical matter, so there is no point in my doing this except out of obsession! Fiddle Faddle 10:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your Transportation in Edmonton edit

Hi Gingeroscar, I've reverted your edit at the above article as you did not include new references to support the content you added/altered. If you have the references, free feel to re-add the content, but this time including the references as inline citations. Here is the inline citation (ref) template I use:

<ref>{{cite web | url= | title= | publisher= | date= | accessdate= }}</ref>

Feel free to use this by completing as many of the fields (parameters) as possible within the template. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 06:21, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ETS LRT route

Stop making changes by adding future lines to the current Template:ETS LRT route. For proposed lines use Template:ETS LRT future. Secondarywaltz (talk) 15:58, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Edmonton Light Rail Transit

Thank you for joining the discussion at the above. When you are adding comments to talk pages, be careful not to accidentally delete the comments of others as was done here. Don't worry, I have returned 117Avenue's comments for you. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 02:45, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Capital Line

Template:Capital Line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. 117Avenue (talk) 07:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

September 2013

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Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Churchill LRT Station. It is considered vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to a loss of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. 117Avenue (talk) 06:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

November 2013

Information icon Hello, I'm 117Avenue. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Valley Line (Edmonton) because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, you can use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! 117Avenue (talk) 04:50, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did to Metro Line, without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. 117Avenue (talk) 03:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Valley Line (ETS). It is considered vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to a loss of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. 117Avenue (talk) 04:04, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you mind explaining

Would you mind explaining why my sandbox is not good enough for use as the main article for use to the public as the Valley line Edmonton? 117 Avenue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 06:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's a User:Sandbox not an article. See Wikipedia:About the Sandbox. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you would like your article to be reviewed, and moved to the article space, you can follow the instructions on Wikipedia:Articles for creation by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. However, other users and I have indicated that it is too early for a separate article on the Valley Line, and it will likely fail. 117Avenue (talk) 00:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Valley Line Edmonton Churchill Stop.jpg

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Copyright

Do you not understand "copyright". Your recent uploads to Commons all come from sources clearly marked as Copyright by the City of Edmonton. They will eventually all be removed, but I am just too tired of all your nonsense to bother. Just stop this stupidity. Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re Copyright

The Public Relations Officer stated to me in an email that the pictures could be used for Wikipedia.

File:Valley Line Edmonton Churchill Stop.jpg

Deleted...

  • Orphaned (not used in an article) and Fair use not allowed in user space BTW (User:Gingeroscar/sandbox).
  • Too big (300px for height is enough for fair use)
  • Too sharp - low resolution only.
If you can get permission from LRTprojects@edmonton.ca then it can be restored - we need CC-BY-SA (as a minimum) - "for Wikipedia use only" is totally unacceptable - all "normal" images are allowed full commercial re-use. See WP:DCM  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:46, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why are my uploads deleted

All my uploads were deleted. Why. I had specific permission from the Public Relations Officer of ETS. Someone undo this please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs)

You may have had that permission, but it appears that you have not submitted them correctly. The onus is on the uploader to do this. Please read WP:COPYRIGHT. You need to follow the instructions to the letter. Please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Fiddle Faddle 19:55, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Free usage of photo.edmonton.ca

I have found out that i can guarantee you that photos.edmonton.ca state clearly on its website found here and it tells me and everyone else that it releases its data under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 2.5 Canada License. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 05:28, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The last line on that page states "City of Edmonton projects are exempt from the Creative Commons licence." 117Avenue (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The website still says that the photos and images are creative commons. Plus the Public Relations Officer told me that It could be used for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 08:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 2.5 Canada License by City of Edmonton Usage Guidelines is not acceptable. Please read https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing . "Some examples of licensing statuses commonly found on the Internet, but forbidden on Commons, include: Creative Commons Non-Commercial". Secondarywaltz (talk) 14:39, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I KEEP TELLING YOU GUYS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO UPLOAD THIS

I AM CONSTANTLY TELLING YOU GUYS THAT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO UPLOAD THESE THINGS. Please unblock me, I have already emailed Wikipedia forwarding the email I received giving me these rights. Why is 2.5 even an option if it is not enough?

Have you read what SecondaryWaltz asked you to read immediately above? Hwy43 (talk) 20:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Can someone tell me...

Can someone tell me how to make another Sandbox, I don't know whether would meet the requirements of an article which is what I am trying to make with my sandbox 2.0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs)

Just create a new redlink with "User:Gingeroscar/sandbox" as the prefix such User:Gingeroscar/sandbox2, then click the redlink and have at it. Hwy43 (talk) 03:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

February 2014

Stop icon This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Valley Line (Edmonton), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. 117Avenue (talk) 06:13, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2014

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Edmonton Light Rail Transit, you may be blocked from editing. 117Avenue (talk) 05:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have once again removed the track lengths you added to Edmonton Light Rail Transit, despite you posting references. I'm not sure where you are getting those numbers. Could you please explain? Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 04:41, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Track length references

I find the extension lengths in faqs or similar pages and add them to the current line or if there is no current line then just put them in. So Gorman and Ellerslie is 21 plus 2.9, in Gorman, 4.5 km to Ellerslie Rd, and at the top of the page for the South LRT it says to Desrochers it is an extra 3 km. The Metro Line is the 3.3 km plus 4.7 in existing track between Churchill and the North tunnel portal South of Grandin and the tunnel to University and then the 390 metres of tunnel and 120 metres of portal and 200 metres at surface running the length of the station to Health Sciences, for the one opening this year (still bugged by the delay for December) and add 11 km for the section to Campbell Road (the part into St ALberta hasnt even got a corridor) because the Metro Line to City limits Recommended Concept Plan released a year ago under the Highlights section states it is 11 km long. Add it to the 3.3 km, the 4.7km, the 390 metres, 200 metres, and the 120 metres said before and you know the total length of the Metro Line within Edmonton. SO that is where I got the info from. Would you mind if I go back and undo the reference 117Avenue. (sorry I canèt use a question mark my key is stuck on an e with an accent in french)

I'm not so sure the distance from Churchill to Health Sciences can be added up so easily, I would like to see a source that says the total length. 117Avenue (talk) 07:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

May 2014

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Edmonton Light Rail Transit. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Metro Line. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. As stated in my edit summary, emails from people are not reliable sources. If you want to include these things, find a reliable source on the web, in newspaper, etc. to back it up. If it can't be found, don't add it. If you must, trying asking the person at the City who replied to your email to post the info on the City's website. If and when that information is posted, then and only then can you re-add the information with an inline citation. It is not the responsibility of readers and other editors on Wikipedia to email the City to verify your additions. Bottom line is emails are not acceptable sources. Hwy43 (talk) 23:36, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


I figured out how to include the cities message without having a problem with privacy. I took a copy pasted from the 10 minute mail. It is from the city, I forwarded it to 10 minute mail thing, but first I cut out my own email address and name.

Forwarded message ----------

From: TS LRT LRT Projects <lrtprojects@edmonton.ca> Date: Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Length


Hi -----Withdrawn----, The total length for train use on the Metro Line is 8072 m (this is the length of track from the end of the Health Sciences/Jubilee tail track platform to the end of NAIT station). The total length of track between the end of the tail track to the end of the tracks at NAIT is 8090 m. Best wishes, Lindsay LRT Projects City of Edmonton


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:49 AM, ---Withdrawn ---<---withdrawn---@gmail.com> wrote: How long is the Metro Line proper, i.e. NAIT to Health Sciences in kilometres to the nearest tenth of of a kilometre? Gingeroscar (talk) 03:06, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2014

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Kingsway/Royal Alex LRT Station. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. 117Avenue (talk) 06:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Metro Line. 117Avenue (talk) 04:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your behaviour (Edmonton 2014 municipal census)

Gingeroscar, do you even look at, let alone read, the edit summaries when others revert your edits? You replaced Edmonton's 2011 StatCan census population in its infobox with its recently announced 2014 municipal census count. You did this despite the hidden note that specifically states 2011 StatsCan population only; latest municipal census result or subsequent estimates can be noted in the article body. My revert stated the following:

revert per WP:CANPOP; read it; 2014 census already noted in demographics section and later in infobox.

Did you:

  1. go to and read WP:CANPOP (in its entirety)?
  2. even look that the 2014 census population was already included in the Demographics section?
  3. even look a few lines down in the infobox to see that the 2014 census population had already been added?

Well, obviously you didn't as you went right back and replaced the 2011 population a second time.
Listen, I already added the new population properly, without removing the 2011 StatCan population in both locations in accordance with WP:CANPOP, before you even arrived at the Edmonton article yesterday. A quick read of the article or a quick look at the article's edit history before clicking the "Edit" button would have revealed this.
Your repeated indifference towards other editors, their edit summaries and their warnings regarding your edits on so many articles is terribly disappointing and is wearing on my patience. Other editors have long lost their patience with you. It is bordering on disrespectful.
Meanwhile your failure to heed the edit summary comments in favour of revertig the rationalized reverts of others is disruptive and is edit warring.
Continuing this behaviour may be grounds for you getting blocked from editing. Wise up. Hwy43 (talk) 04:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I did read them. I don't think it is needed to have the 2011 census results as the municipal one is more up to date. Also, stop calling me indifferent to others. I am autistic. I have a far harder time understanding others reasoning. Gingeroscar (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding. I won't call you indifferent again as I now know where you are coming from. I apologize for my terse tone above. I would have continued into a second year of assuming good faith and avoided that tone had I known.

It does not matter that the municipal census is more up to date. WP:CANPOP is based on a long-established consensus in the Canadian Wikipedia community. As there are appropriate ways to recognize both municipal and federal censuses in articles as outlined in CANPOP, there is no reason to remove federal census results in favour of municipal census results or estimates. Bearcat explains very well why federal census figures must stay in articles in the last post at Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 14#Provincial/Territorial population figures in the infobox. To quote Bearcat:

At least for cities and towns, the rule on here does quite explicitly allow properly sourced intercensal estimates and/or formal municipal censuses to be cited in our articles. However — and this is the point that some people keep failing to grasp — we also have a responsibility to provide a consistent source. Yes, by one perspective, 2006 census data is "outdated" in cases where an updated 2010 figure is properly citable; however, the moment you remove the 2006 census figure from an article entirely, such that its only population figure is a 2010 update, then you're setting up a false comparison to other cities which don't have reliable population updates published between national censuses. It's misleading to correlate Airdrie's population in 2010 to North Bay's or Brandon's or Edmundston's in 2006, because just like Airdrie, those cities have either grown or shrunk in the intervening four years too.

Which is why the rule has always been that updated population figures between national censuses can be provided as supplementary data, but not as a replacement for the most recent national census. The StatsCan census is the only source that's consistently available for every municipality right across the entire country, so it's the only figure that can provide a properly sourced apples-to-apples comparison that's consistent across all of our articles. Updated figures are certainly encouraged in body text wherever possible — but the 2006 figure still has to remain in all city articles until the 2011 census figures are published, whether an intermediate update is available or not, because that's the only number we can provide for users to compare across articles. And for the same reason, lists like List of the 100 largest cities in Canada require a consistent source as well, which is why those lists are never to be updated with any source outside of StatsCan data.

And incidentally, this is the problem I have with the claim that Calgary has surpassed Ottawa in population ranking. While it's certainly possible that it's true, it's currently based on a misleading comparison: Calgary did a municipal census in 2010, and Ottawa did not — which means that until StatsCan publishes its national 2011 census results, the claim rests on comparing two numbers that were calculated either by different methods or at different times (or both), and which are consequently not equivalent and not comparable.

When it comes to population data, it's absolutely critical that the figures be properly sourced, and it's absolutely critical that we provide data referenced to a consistent source — but while it's certainly nice to provide supplementary "up-to-the-minute" data where possible, it's not critical to do so if that compromises the more important objectives. 2006/2011 census data is the meat, and anything else is gravy — we can serve the meat without gravy if we have to, but we cannot serve the gravy without meat.

— Bearcat, from archived Canadian Wikipedians' notice board discussion

If you have any questions, please reply here or post a message on my talk page. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 09:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

October 2014

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