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Hi GN - I sent you an e-mail a couple of days back, just checking that you got it. Not meaning to hassle you, if you don't have time to look at it just now let me know and I'll ask elsewhere - just making sure it hasn't gone into your junk mail or whatever. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 18:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Girth Summit, my bad, must have accidentally marked it as read without actually reading it. Replied. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:11, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
GeneralNotability, no worries - as too many of my correspondents know, it happens to us all! I've replied to your reply... Girth Summit (blether) 21:45, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2021).

Guideline and policy news

  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
  • An RfC is open to discuss the next steps following a trial which automatically applied pending changes to TFAs.

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  • IP addresses of unregistered users are to be hidden from everyone. There is a rough draft of how IP addresses may be shown to users who need to see them. This currently details allowing administrators, checkusers, stewards and those with a new usergroup to view the full IP address of unregistered users. Editors with at least 500 edits and an account over a year old will be able to see all but the end of the IP address in the proposal. The ability to see the IP addresses hidden behind the mask would be dependent on agreeing to not share the parts of the IP address they can see with those who do not have access to the same information. Accessing part of or the full IP address of a masked editor would also be logged. Comments on the draft are being welcomed at the talk page.

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Tech News: 2021-27

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I have a question about a Wikipedia Rule.

Hello, I have a question regarding Wikipedia:COI based on Wikipedia:Self promotion.

I found an user who's posting his own blog posts from a website (which is a forum/blog, made by himself) as "reliable sources" in many of the articles he edits. I think this is obviously not reliable but not even valid as a source itself. Is this valid on Wikipedia or there is any kind of procedure to be done? I am asking this first before doing any action, because I don't know exactly how to proceed. I saw you on the Active Administrators list, I hope you can answer me if it's possible. Thanks! --TechnicianGB (talk) 14:04, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

TechnicianGB, WP:SELFCITE is the relevant policy - citing yourself is discouraged, and if the source wasn't reliable in the first place then you absolutely should not be adding those links. I would suggest starting by having a polite word with the editor in question, and if they refuse (or keep at it) to start a thread at WP:COIN. SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 18:09, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Sock, or just coincidental name?

Just ran into this user at RfD. About to go to bed, so don't have time to do a full analysis, but I see at least some similarities to the socks you blocked in October, including one that used the same first and last name as this one. That said, it's a fairly common first/last combination, and if it's the same person the CIR issues aren't quite as glaring as last time (although there's definitely still a bit of "bull in a china shop" going on).

Thoughts? If you're unsure or busy, I can kick it to SPI tomorrow with a proper write-up. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 08:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

P.S., just saw the latest addition to your userpage. I'm honored. :) -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 08:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Tamzin, definitely some CIR issues there, but nothing that I'd call solid evidence that they're Safi Bhatti. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
The CIR issues continue to mount:
  • Unexplained [6][7] or obviously spurious RfDs
  • Article-type edits to drafts [8] [9]
  • A large number of self-reverted CSDs, many of them obviously inapplicable (see contribs generally)
  • Reverting good edits, sometimes years-old ones [10] [11] [12] [13] (but then self-reverting)
  • (I don't know enough about file policies to know whether what's going on there is competent or not)
That said, all of this is just grounds for a warning, at most a request to stop nominating pages for deletion, in my opinion. So I'd like to make in full the case that they're a sock:
I think that's a pretty distinctive pattern even if not for the almost-identical usernames. Happy to take this to SPI, but figured I'd avoid adding to the backlog if possible. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 22:19, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Tamzin alerted me to this. I already had questions about this person and ran CU since it's clearly not a new account. What I can tell you is that I found nothing besides a bit of logged-out editing, but of course all the accounts mentioned above are too old anyway. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
While I know that you, Doc, can't comment on whether this is the logged-out editing you were referring to, I'll note that 2601:644:4401:4DE0:6023:11FA:EFEF:688D (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki), which made this unusual edit is on the same /64 that you, GN, blocked as part of the Bhatti SPI in October. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 03:25, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Tamzin, I don't know if you saw Ponyo's block. Drmies (talk) 22:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping, Doc, and for the block, Ponyo. I've cleaned up some of the mess in projectspace. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 01:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Way too suspicious new (most likely) sockpuppet account.

All started here: User_talk:EdJohnston#Is_meteoclub.gr_a_reliable_source? but it became too obvious here: User_talk:EdJohnston#Sockpuppet? since after the main account (Weatherextremes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)) got warned by me and EdJohnston (admin) he blanked the page, and the same day a brand new account called FactDistributor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) came to edit my talk page to write almost the same as the other user, using the same sources and the same writing style. Then he reverted one of the articles in which the main account was involved, so I reverted explaining and giving a warning. He continued with the disruptive editing completely ignoring all my warnings to later blank his talk page (just as Weatherextremes did) and to re-revert also breaking the 3 revert rule. I don't think a SPI case needs to be filled because it's just 1 account but it's way too obvious they're the same guy.

This started on this page, first account explaining on the talk page after he got some warnings / brand new account on July 10th doing very similar edits and using the same controversial sources - Main account blanking his talk page ignoring the warnings and the admin's notice / New account blanking his talk page to later re-revert again the Lindos page. And all of this within 24 hours, they're either the same guy or mutual twins. Could you check them? Thanks. --TechnicianGB (talk) 05:34, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

TechnicianGB seems to be one of the people who has arguments for the sake of it, I don't know about the other user he is complaining but I gave him sources and cited the National Observatory of Athens for Lindos http://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/lindos/ which he simply ignored and went back to his hijack reverts by putting what he "thinks" is correct. I removed one source he deemed dubious but he will not stop because he just doesn't trust the National Observatory of Athens because the station since it is 7 years old and he thinks 30 years are needed which is outrageous. This is the first month the weather station started http://meteosearch.meteo.gr/data/lindos/2014-04.txt you can edit the month and the year till 2021-04.txt to see the database.

I know this is the internet and no one knows each other ,therefore being suspicious in someone's sources is understandable and expected but this guy didn't even bother checking my climate data for Lindos he just added a source which was estimating the climate of Lindos from another weather station far away even if I tried to explain it to him.

Finally I blanked my page because I first talked to him in his talk page and he blanked it here! I gave him all he sources there and he just ignored it. Why should I allow this behavior?
If he has issues with other users as well and he thinks I am a second account (which you can verify I am not), then you must see that there is something problematic with him... FactDistributor (talk) 06:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@FactDistributor: Your first edit on Wikipedia was on my talk page using the exact same words and writing style as the other user does, to later revert my changes to add again that "meteoclub.gr" unreliable source told by an admin himself that's not a valid source, it sounds like you're trying to evade blocks/edit wars on your main account. How a brand new account does this and in such a short lapse of time? Then you've claimed to not to use that website when you have done it 4 times already.
I didn't blank my talk page but deleted your section to move it to EdJohnston's talk page, while you have completely blanked 2 warnings and you've also broken the 3 revert rule, funny how you claim to "not to add meteoclub.gr again" when you have copy&pasted everything as well as the text coming from that site, and you didn't even notice you copied again the same source just above the chart... ANI opened already. You broke the 3RR and you were warned twice. --TechnicianGB (talk) 06:37, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
@TechnicianGB:

After it is proven that this is my only account and you are falsely accusing me of being someone else and you are completely disregarding the National Observatory of Athens, I will see what actions can be done so people like you can't make the life of other when they want to add some reliable information so difficult!
All you had to do was to check the data that I sent you but you chose to ignored it and start this circus of accusations now...

@Admins I apologize if I violated the rules by blanking my page but you have to know this user didn't move the discussion to another talk page. He started wild assumptions here after he deleted my entry. For the same reason I deleted his entry in my talk page. Now he is going to a rant about investigations and second accounts while completely ignoring the official data.Weather Station of Lindos
Record for 2020
First ever recorded data in Lindos
If he wants he can check the data up to http://meteosearch.meteo.gr/data/lindos/2021-04.txt (just edit the date section) I am persistent in this because I have all the data and he keeps ignoring it, the meteoclub.gr link simply had made calculations based on this data from NOOA(which I can verify and anyone who double checks my data). I am from Rhodes and everyone here knows how much hotter Lindos is than the rest of Rhodes, it is irritating having someone who lives in another country and never visited Rhodes or possibly even understand well meteorology to simply force his "climate opinion" which is not backed by a reliable source while I have given all the data multiple times to him.

TechnicianGB, I concur that they are quite suspicious, but based on editing style I do not believe they are Weatherextremes. Factdistributor, you've managed to show up with a surprising amount of Wikipedia knowledge and showed up at Lindos quite suddenly to edit-war and insult other editors. I am not going to block you at this time, but you are on very thin ice, and your username doesn't give me a lot of confidence that you're here to build an encyclopedia.
@GeneralNotability: I agree. Okay, I understand, but yes it's also very suspect for me as well as his nickname and his first edit was straight to the point... Anyways he got blocked 48h for edit warring. I was just about to say the personal attacks he wrote against me here and moreso on EdJohnston's talk page, where he said an even heavier one saying I'm a fool and trying to make me sound like if I was silly saying "I don't like facts" because he's a scientist. Whatever. --TechnicianGB (talk) 13:09, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
TechnicianGB I am OUTRAGED that you suggest I have a sockpuppet. Please rectify your statement. I have been a wiki editor for 11 years and I would never go to that level. Your behavior is clearly out of order! I am finding it really hard to trust TechnicianGB considering me they have started ad hominem unsubstantiated attacks on me Weatherextremes (talk) 20:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
@GeneralNotability: Could you please intervene? Where should I go to initiate a complaint on TechnicianGB ? Suggesting that I am a sockpuppet (without a sockpuppet investigation btw) and escaping without a formal warning is just too lenient on him. This user has been literally stalking me from at least 2019 if memory serves me well Weatherextremes (talk) 20:48, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
@Weatherextremes: Just because you've been an editor for 11 years made me dubious about doing such things, but you have to understand that someone who comes to edit the exact same article in the same way using the source that was claimed unreliable by an admin 24 hours before is suspect. As well as coming to my own talk page like perfectly knowing to edit Wikipedia like the administrator has also said above (all of this while claiming to be "a new user") and he also blanked his talk page as you did two days ago.
These were more than enough evidences from my POV but because I wasn't fully sure, that's why I first asked GeneralNotability (a SPI Clerk) to see if he sees similarities between both of you rather than opening any SPI case on you. An invalid SPI case is a reason to be offended, but I only did a question. Stalking you what sorry? I gave you a message on your talk page in 2019 and that's the only time I've interacted with you before. Do you think suggesting someone's a sockpuppet is punishable in Wikipedia? I see you're not the same guy but since too many coincidences happened, you have to understand why I was firstly suspicious. I've helped to catch dozens and dozens of other editor's sockpuppets and the behavior was similar. So don't feel offended for a simple suspicion.
If what you want is me "retracting" from my words "accusing" that you were the new account then I retract from my words. But you have to take it calmly, I didn't insult you nor made any personal attack against you. --TechnicianGB (talk) 21:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Ok let's say you have a point in suspecting this user from Rhodes was my sockpuppet since they edited Lindos article and also blanked their talk page. But please bear in mind that the way forward in such occasions is to run a silent SPI investigation first before going all public with these suspicions. You seem to have a fixation on anything relating to Iberian countries heat and for some reason you see red when it comes to Greece's reliable data. That is why you keep on coming after my edits since 2019. I do my best to have high quality contributions on wiki. I stand my ground that meteoclub is a valid source and at a second stage I will ask for community wide feedback on the matter. Now regarding Lindos, we need to reach a consensus because the user from Rhodes is right, the data currently in the article are from Rhodes city proper (which has nothing to do with Lindos) and need to go. While the links provided by myself and the Rhodes user confirm the Meteoclub article data they call for synthesis which is not ideal. Next best thing to do is to leave Meteoclub data for Lindos with a footnote better source needed. Let's move forward the discussion in Lindos article Weatherextremes (talk) 21:35, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
@Weatherextremes: Look, this is not the proper place to debate. But let me tell you something, I don't have anything against you as I barely warned you once in 2019 in your talk page and that was the only interaction we had before this week. And later but not last, since you've seen an admin said that source is unreliable and other users as well (3 in total including me without counting any admin) don't add again that data and go to the talk page instead. The text is entirely coming from meteoclub for example. Have you seen that another user reverted the Lindos data today? Anyways, if you want to keep forward with this go there, I don't think GeneralNotability's talk page is the proper place for it. And then the last thing, look dude, it's much better to ask a SPI Clerk to see if he sees similarities than opening a false SPI case on someone. I don't have anything against you and I've never reverted/deleted your edits except for once in 2019 and the edits I've made over the past 3 days. --TechnicianGB (talk) 21:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
I am sorry but I consider you biased when it comes to Greece's data, you did not bother to check that the Meteoclub article is actually supported by the links provided by the Rhodes guy and myself (granted you would need to use synthesis to check them but still they are absolutely verifiable). I also consider Average Joe biased if I judge from his edits in Hardiness zones regarding Azores etc. The data from the National Observatory of Athens seem to challenge both of your POV's. I appreciate that an admin does not think Meteoclub is reliable however at a second stage by asking community wide feedback and making my case as clear as possible I hope that they will change their mind. Weatherextremes (talk) 22:07, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
TechnicianGB btw yes I meant moving forward to a content dispute resolution in the Lindos talk page, obviously not here. Check out the talk page. I have attempted a more balanced version Weatherextremes (talk) 23:00, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Anik Aziz Page Deletion

Hello Sir I'm the creator of Anik Aziz Article. This is an article by a politician. He committed suicide in 2016. His father is a Member of Parliament. I have created the article with complete resafance. Please delete your delete tag. I need some time for edit this article. Please recover and back my article on Wikipedia. Deleted page link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anik_Aziz


Thank You Sir Xdbhaiii (talk) 02:05, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Xdbhaiii, as described in the message on your talk page, the article did not contain a credible claim of significance, and as far as I can tell, he only received media coverage for being a politican's son who committed suicide, which doesn't particularly meet our notability standards for people. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2

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Tech News: 2021-29

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  • The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year. [17][18]
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SpeakTruth29

Now here comes yet another obvious sock,[20] who has the same similarities I mentioned earlier and even shares the favorite word of this sockfarm, "truth".[21] This sockfarm prefers creating throw-away accounts for controversial subjects and switches to another account. It is fairly clear per the pattern of edits by  the sockmaster that it was already a sock of somebody, that's why a recent suspect happened to have been registered in 2018.

I think CU is clearly justified in this case, especially when the small accounts are being deliberately created to evade suspicion. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 09:06, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Aman.kumar.goel, if you think they're connected, file an SPI - but you'll need more specific evidence than "edits controversial areas" and "has 'truth' in the username" to justify CU - neither of those is enough to prove anything more than "POV editor". SubjectiveNotability a GN franchise (talk to the boss) 19:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

You plowed through that UAA backlog! Thank you so much. Helen(💬📖) 23:29, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks HelenDegenerate :) GeneralNotability (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Arleveditor Sandbox Deletion

Hello,

I recently had an article I was working on in my sandbox deleted (speedy deletion of draft) before I could edit it from a rough draft down to something worthy of Wikipedia. On the one hand I am thankful you saved me some time by cutting to the chase and letting me know the article would need an overhaul, but on the other hand I guess I assumed the sandbox was a private place for me to work before hitting the publish button. Luckily I still have the article on my hard drive and can work on it there before trying to get it published again, but I wanted to bring up my surprise and ask if it's customary to delete sandbox entries at Wikipedia, or if perhaps an error had been made. Whatever the policy is, I'll do my best to adhere to it in the future. Thank you for taking the time to let me know what the policy is on sandbox deletions.

Arleveditor (talk) 03:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Arleveditor, the bar is a bit higher for deleting sandboxes, but yes, sandboxes may be deleted. The article you were working on there was sufficiently promotional that it stood no chance of getting accepted and would have been deleted for its promotional tone the second it moved out of your sandbox anyway. If you're going to try again, I strongly urge you to write based on what independent, reliable sources are saying about the subject, rather than a promotional blurb that looks like it came from the subject's website. I also remind you that if you are affiliated with the subject you're writing about or are compensated in some way for your contributions, you are required to disclose those connections. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:46, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Block evasion

Hi GN, after your block of Ccomgroup (talk · contribs), another account with a similarly self-incriminating name has cropped up at Manuel E. Machado. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:55, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, looks like it's been handled. FWIW I can't agree with the block reason on the new account (it was a softblock, so creating a new account is absolutely allowed), but they needed another username block anyway, so it works out in the end. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Cross Wikipedia COI

Hi, I have opened a COIN discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Prix Versailles as I found three editors who had only edited Prix Versailles and related articles over a number of years. Do you know how to deal with apparent COI or paid editing on other Wikipedias? The pattern of editing seems to be similar on de, es, fr, it and pt Wikipedias and on a smaller scale on hu, po and ro. I think the pattern over several years and several languages suggests paid editing. TSventon (talk) 12:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

TSventon, ugh, I'm not really sure. I've dealt with one case of this before, and we got most of it reverted, but that involved ridiculous amounts of sockpuppetry. The solution might need to involve Meta, but not sure exactly how. Talk page watchers: any ideas? GeneralNotability (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, the question now involves meta:Steward requests/Checkuser#MARdF@en, es, fr, hu, id, it, pt, ro, zh and Wikidata. It's my first experience of id Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 19:03, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Just a passing note that while global policy does technically allow stewards to act on wikis with local CUs in cases of xwiki abuse, I don't think I've ever seen that happen, at least not in cases like this – I suspect it will get kicked back to local CU teams, at which point coordination should probably happen via the mailing list/CUwiki. I do hope they'll make an objection though – steward checks would probably be the most efficient. Blablubbs (talk) 19:12, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Another account in Breast Tax

User:Armader is Another account Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Worldofknowledge121/Archive who is now removing content Breast Tax like his older accounts. User:Armader is created just 2 days after the blocks. I request you to bloc this person. His original account is Adithya Kiran Chekavar, he is also well known in disrupting malayalam wiki. He will not stop this time also he will create many more accounts and do the same thing.2402:3A80:500:2D85:0:53:4094:C201 (talk) 18:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

I see their edits, but I'm not convinced they are Worldofknowledge. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

IP block expiration

Regarding your block of 112.205.1.155 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) in relation to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Betteruser/Archive in April, the block has expired and the IP is clearly the same person editing the same articles. Thought it easier to bring up here than add to overworked SPI. Best, CMD (talk) 06:51, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Chipmunkdavis, concur that that is likely them. Reblocked. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:15, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

FFA P-16 socking on IP ranges

Hi GN, User:FFA P-16 has returned to his favorite article, FFA P-16, to add the ECM variant again. He's also been active on Quick Reaction Alert, with one of the socks having been blocked by User:Acroterion. Do I need to file an SPI? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 18:11, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks BilCat. I've dropped a regrettably wide rangeblock on them - didn't look like there would be too much collateral damage, but I don't like blocking subsets of dynamic ranges. Hopefully this will handle them for a while. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I appreciate it very much. BilCat (talk) 21:33, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

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