User talk:Fromtheold

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A summary of site guidelines and policies you may useful

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Ian.thomson (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Waldensians

With the exception of a few rare individuals, the Waldensians assert that they were started by Peter Waldo. No contemporary sources mention them until after Peter Waldo. Scholars with no agendas assert they started with Peter Waldo. Even many SDAs, Mennonites, Baptists (I'm one, and I could get most of my congregation to agree), and other protestants agree that they started with Peter Waldo. The only "scholars" who do assert an ancient origin for the Waldensians require no work to show that they are biased beyond use by a fundamentalist protestant agenda. To portray the Trail of Blood theory as anywhere near equal to modern scholarship would violate WP:UNDUE. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

December 2011

Please do not remove information from articles, as you did to Authorized King James Version. Wikipedia is not censored, and content is not removed on the sole grounds of perceived offensiveness. Please discuss this issue on the article's talk page to reach consensus rather than continuing to remove the disputed material. If the content in question involves images, you also have the option to configure Wikipedia to hide the images that you may find offensive. The information was sourced, not "an editor's opinion." Ian.thomson (talk) 15:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Ian Thomson

Using the "do no censor" argument will not. That was a legitimate edit.

Fromtheold (talk) 11:24, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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