User talk:Forbes707
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Hello, Forbes707, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your edits have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.
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Hornby School
I've removed the reference you listed on this article as it does not meet Wikipedia's verifiability criteria.--RadioFan (talk) 16:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've removed this 3 times now, please review WP:V for information on what is considered a verifiable reference. Listing an individual name is not sufficient.--RadioFan (talk) 16:22, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- So, when I have taken a tour and spoken with the board of directors of the institution I can't use this primary source as a reference? We teach children the importance of primary sources but are not allowed to use them ourselves? Instead I had to go hunt down semi-correct online references to satisfy the wikipedia community. OK...I found some vague resources online that had similar information. I hope this is now sufficient. --Forbes707 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)Forbes707
- No, a conversation you had with someone close to the organization is not a verifiable reference. Primary sources are fine for research but not for a collaborative encyclopedia like Wikipedia. If the references you find are "semi-correct" then dont use them. If the subject is notable, then certainly someone has written something about it somewhere, in a book, in the local newspaper, perhaps state archives? If this building is on the national registry, I would think that got mentioned in the local newspaper. Has this organization published a history of the building? Depending on its format, that might be passable as a reliable source.--RadioFan (talk) 16:45, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- So, when I have taken a tour and spoken with the board of directors of the institution I can't use this primary source as a reference? We teach children the importance of primary sources but are not allowed to use them ourselves? Instead I had to go hunt down semi-correct online references to satisfy the wikipedia community. OK...I found some vague resources online that had similar information. I hope this is now sufficient. --Forbes707 (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC)Forbes707
June 2009
Please do not add content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did to Hornby School. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. RadioFan (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)