User talk:Dphower

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Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Dphower, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! /wangi 17:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Hi, wanted to let you know that you are not allowed to add links to your own website to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for promotion, and Wikipedia:External links explains that you should ask on the talk page of an article if you want to include a link to your website, rather than adding it yourself. Wmahan. 17:25, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have reverted a number of the edits you've made to add links to your own site. Please do not add them back - rather post on the article's talk page to see if there is consensus to add the link and somebody else will add it if they agree it's worthwhile. Please have a good read of WP:EL, thanks/wangi 17:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Advice and guidance

Hi. I notice your editing is coming into conflict with the anti-spam Wikiproject. I might be able to offer you some advice and guidance.

The core issue is that Wikipedia is vehemently not for self-promotion. You wrote that it doesn't make sense to remove your links while links to Mobygames and others are allowed. The difference is not in the links or the quality of the site (at this point), the difference is that the Wikipedia community has chosen Mobygames as a useful site to link to for videogames, while the only person choosing your site as a useful site to link to for videogames is yourself (at this point). It is entirely possible that your site it a better choice, but until the community makes this choice you will be swimming upstream and earning the ire of other editors by doing so. Wikipedia editors are expected to be as impartial and unbiased as possible, and it is simply impossible for the creator of a site to be impartial and unbiased when it comes to their creation. When an editor's only contributions are favourable to their own interests (such as their site), then "spammer" is a label that other editors feel is earned.

Don't think that all is lost, though. Your site might still be appropriate to link from articles. The key, though, is that you have to give up on trying to decide this yourself and leave the decision to other Wikipedia editors without connections to your site (who, so the theory goes, will be as impartial and unbiased about your site as practically possible). By leaving the judgement about value to the Wikipedia project up to the larger Wikipedia community, all possibility of partiality and bias on your part becomes irrelevant. How is this sounding so far?

If all that sounds reasonable, here's how I would suggest getting your site to the attention of the community without the stigma of "spamming". Wikipedia has internal sub-projects (called WikiProjects), and one of these is dedicated to computer and video games. The editors who are part of or pay attention to this sub-project are the ones who will need to be convinced that Arcade Flyers is a valuable resource that ought to be linked from articles. You could go to their discussion page at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer and video games and start a new section (click the + beside the edit this page tab): there you can present your case for your site, the pros and cons relative to their current preferred sites, and the fact that since you're the site owner you leave it up to them to make the decision. It might not be quick or it might be inconclusive, but in the case that they decisively support linking to your site from game articles, it will be a solid decision. Then, you will have the will of the community backing the links and won't have to worry about people removing them. If it is inconclusive or they decide against, then you have the clearest indication that (at this point), the community prefers to not have the links in articles.

I hope this has helped. If you have any questions or want me to clarify any of that (I know that navigating the ins and outs of the Wikipedia community can be mind boggling), then please message me at my Talk page or respond here. Cheers! — Saxifrage 18:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]