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Thank you for your welcome and it doesn't matter whether it's belated! I will try my best to do contribution to the Wikipedia!

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Hey Christopher, my name is Jethro, a mentor at the Co-op. Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm going to help you out with your interest in music. I saw on your profile that you were interested in analyzing classical music. I wanted to clarify what kind of help you needed. Are you interested in writing articles about it on Wikipedia, or do you need help finding these resources? Maybe both, or something else? You can reply back on this page, and please feel free to notify me by typing out {{ping|I JethroBT}}. I, JethroBT drop me a line 16:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Chris-- I was looking around at your other contributions. I saw that you noted that you are living in China, where I understand you have limited access to web resources. At any time, let me know if there are any sources you are having difficulty accessing and I'll see what I can do to help you out. In terms of getting started, is there an article you want to work on, or something about Wikipedia you want to learn? I, JethroBT drop me a line 01:45, 8 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@I JethroBT:

Dear Jethro: Thanx for your greeting! I did NOT mean music from China but that I am from China. Instead I am interested in those by western composers. And, yes I am interested in writing wiki articles about western classical music and I have finished one which is Orchestral Suite in G minor, BWV 1070. But initially it was too simple and I could not cite any references since too many foreign webpages are censorship in the PRC and therefore I need your help on it - the description of the structure perhaps still needs improving after all! Furthermore I am attending music classes in an int'l school in China because I am quite interested in analyzing classical pieces but I have not been able to. Therefore I really wish you can help me with skills of analyzing classical pieces. My mailbox is christopher49909@qq.com and you can feel free to talk with me using either Talk Pages or mailboxes. The last thing is that I have not yet come up with any plans to create any more articles about classical music but I may come up soon! Christopher2625649908 (talk) 05:57, 8 March 2015 (UTC)Christopher[reply]

@Christopher2625649908: Thanks for clarifying. I think we can stick to your talk page here for now, but we can also use the article talk page. Truthfully, I don't have a strong background in music history, but I'm a good researcher, so I'll do my best to find some sources for you. As for structure, Orchestral Suite in G minor, BWV 1070 has a good structure for getting the article started, so nice work getting it started. I've been looking at articles on other orchestral suites. The Firebird is one way to think about article structure for these types of articles, but it's not the only way. A Midsummer Night's Dream and Turandot Suite have different structures. A lot of it will depend on what information we find out there. Ideally, there will be some history on the suite, coverage of how it was composed, and some further discussion on why the work was not composed by Bach despite it being a part of his catalogue. I'll see what information I can find for you. I, JethroBT drop me a line 03:56, 9 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Piano Quartets by Beethoven and Several Divertimenti by Mozart

@I JethroBT:

Again I am glad to see you, Jethro! I have planned to create pages about the three piano quartets by Beethoven: Piano Quartet No. 1 (Beethoven), Piano Quartet No. 2 (Beethoven) & Piano Quartet No. 3 (Beethoven).

However I am quite sorry that I am having my mock exam and thus I am busy until a week later. Therefore I am not able to create the pages now. Any excuse is regretted. This paragraph will be deleted once the mock exam ends.

Sounds great! I put in a subheader above here just to centralize this discussion a bit. This week, I'll look around for sources and either post here or e-mail you documents to help you build articles on these topics. Good luck with your exams. :) I, JethroBT drop me a line 18:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, one other thing Christopher, when you're using a talk page to discuss things with editors (like here), editors should sign their names and provide a timestamp at the end of their comment by using four tildes ~~~~ at the end of their comment. Thanks, I, JethroBT drop me a line 18:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@I JethroBT:

Oh thank you Jethro! But another thing is that I've just come up another idea that is to create pages for some of Mozart's divertimenti: Divertimento No. 7 (Mozart) (K. 205), Divertimento No. 10 (Mozart) (K. 247), Divertimento No. 15 (Mozart) (K. 287) & Divertimento No. 17 (Mozart) (K. 334), among which they recall my past. I have just found a hotspot in my dormitory, where Google and some other foreign sites have no limited access (quite good news!)! Therefore when I'm free I will just look for the relevant info about the 5 divertimenti. But could you still help me look for the info about the 3 piano quartets by Beethoven? Thanks! Last but not least, actually my mock exam will end on 18 Mar (in more than a week, not exactly a week). Christopher2625649908 (talk) 02:27, 11 March 2015 (UTC)Yours, Christopher~[reply]

The divertimenti would be superb additions to Wikipedia. I was listening to Roger Norrington's recent recording of the K. 247 just the other day and was most surprised to see that it did not have a Wikipedia article. We should have articles on all of them. Just one matter: when you do find an online reference that you can use, be careful not to copy out what is written. Joseph Stevenson's description of the BWV 1070 at http://www.allmusic.com/composition/overture-suite-for-strings-continuo-in-g-minor-no-5-doubtful-bwv-1070-mc0002368966 is copyrighted - there is a notice at the bottom of the page - so you would need to say, for example, that "According to the music critic Joseph Stevenson, the finale is a 'bustling piece written in a learned imitative style'". Syek88 (talk) 21:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Syek88:

Thanks a lot for your reminder! I have modified the page just now and actually the description of all the 5 movements more or less come from words by Joseph Stevenson. Could you please help me check the page again and modify it if necessary?

Hey Christopher. I've done a little bit more research on the Piano Quartets-- these were done very early in Beethoven's life (when he was 14, apparently). There's also not a great deal of coverage on each individual piece. I'm beginning to think that, because there's not a lot of information on each individual piece, it might be better to start this article as Three Piano Quartets (Beethoven) as they are often talked about in a group rather than individually. Here are a few books I've found that have some coverage of them.
I'll be sending you some scans from these books detailing the coverage. Interestingly, the last one discusses how these quartets heavily borrowed from Mozart's work, which is something that we'll want to note in the articles for this. I, JethroBT drop me a line 19:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@I JethroBT:

Thank you for the resources you've provided, Jethro! The first thing is that it might be even better to create the page called "Piano Quartets (Beethoven)" and create pages that automatically redirects itself to this page (which are Piano Quartet No. 1 (Beethoven), Piano Quartet No. 2 (Beethoven) and Piano Quartet No. 3 (Beethoven)). The second thing is that the references provided are inaccessible in mainland China and only on each Tuesday can I get access to such pages using the computers at school, and therefore if you have spare time could you please start the page for me? Thanks! Thirdly, I have gained info about the keys of each movement, which you can copy: No. 1: 1st movement and 3rd movement in E-flat major, 2nd movement in E-flat minor. No. 2: 1st movement and 3rd movement in D major, 2nd movement in F-sharp minor. No. 3: 1st movement and 3rd movement in C major, 2nd movement in F major. That is all and looking for your reply! Christopher2625649908 (talk) 05:00, 16 March 2015 (UTC)Christopher~[reply]

@Christopher2625649908: Unfortunately, I do not have time to write these articles for you, but I can help revise and improve them if you get started. Did you receive my e-mail? I provided scans of the pages from the above sources that you can use to start these articles. I, JethroBT drop me a line 05:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Apology for not having replied your message in time

@I JethroBT:Hi long time no see Jethro! Sorry for having ignored your messages for over 8 months due that I was too occupied with my study then. I also apologize that I have not told you about that in advance. Thanks for your sources but they all seemed to be blocked then. Now that I can open them now I will try to create a google account and try to purchase them. I also apologize that I am occupied for the following two weeks and I am sure to reply in two weeks once you have replied. Christopher2625649908 (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@I JethroBT:Hereby I apologize again and just wish you to tolerate me. Would you? Christopher2625649908 (talk) 05:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hangzhou–Fuzhou–Shenzhen passenger-dedicated railway

Are 250 km/h lines not classed as high-speed? A few of the other corridors have 250 km/h sections as well. (I think the "section" articles are named differently because there isn't a "conventional" railway.) Jc86035 (talk) 02:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, Jc86035. Thank you for your concern over the naming issues. Unfortunately unlike some other 250 km/h corridors possibly bearing the name "high-speed railway" and currently operating at 250 km/h, the actual current operational speed of the Ningbo-Shenzhen section of the Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Shenzhen Railway is only 200 km/h. According to the criteria given by China Railways, this is far below the standard. In some official files, it even seems that in China the term "high-speed railway" should refer to those with minimum operation speed of 300 km/h - otherwise named "passenger-dedicated railway" or "line" [e.g. Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Shenzhen PDL = 杭深线 (HangShen Line); Beijing-Guangzhou HSR = 京广高速线 (JingGuang High-Speed Line, 300 km/h); Guiyang-Guangzhou PDL = 贵广客专/贵广客运专线 (GuiGuang Passenger-Dedicated Line, mostly 250 km/h)].
I am a active passenger on the Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Shenzhen Railway and rail-fan of the Chinese high-speed trains. I've noticed that the speed meters in the cabins have a reading fluctuating between 200 km/h and 209 km/h under normal operation. Some other non-official sources might also name it "杭福深高铁" but then again it's obviously wrong.
Oh by the way I'm unsure whether I need to further rename this article as "Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Shenzhen Railway". There are earlier discussions on such an issue on the talk page of the Chinese Wikipedia page on this railway. But please bear in mind - only the Hangzhou-Ningbo section can be classified as "high-speed" railway while the rest cannot.
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Christopher2625649908 (talk) 03:10, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Does China Railway have standard official translations in English? Otherwise I think it would be clearer to call the article "Hangzhou–Fuzhou–Shenzhen railway" since "passenger dedicated" doesn't seem to be used in English except for referring to CRH lines.
Was it correct for me to move Datong–Xi'an high-speed railway from Datong–Xi'an passenger railway? I also (after making a few other moves, which may need to be undone) ran into Qingdao–Jinan passenger railway and Qingdao–Jinan high-speed railway. Should all sub-300 km/h high-speed lines be labeled "passenger railways"? Jc86035 (talk) 11:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for my belated reply. Probably not necessarily. I cannot see any official translations either... In many cases, as I noticed, either "passenger" and "high-speed" should be okay provided that the line described has an operational speed of 300 km/h or above. But there are a two of the exceptions: GZ-SZ-HK HSR where the Shenzhen N.-Hong Kong W. Kowloon section is only approx. 200 km/h; Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR where the entire line has a maximum operational speed of 250 km/h (to be honest, I've only seen a max reading of 248 km/h while on board). However, the term "passenger-dedicated line" doesn't seem to apply to all 200/250 km/h lines as some of them might as well serve as freight railways. The name of HZ-FZ-SZ "PDL" is, too, controversial as only the Ningbo-Hangzhou section is really designed to be passenger-dedicated; but as I noticed it might be correct for now - as someone told me that there are NO freight trains on the entire HZFZSZ line at the moment. Christopher2625649908 (talk) 21:19, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarabandes

I like your move of Sarabandes, but please also do the next step, fix all occurences of the former name (see "What links here" in the left column), and then either make Sarabandes a redirect to Sarabande, or a disambiguation page fore several pieces called Sarabandes. I am not a fortune-teller but see that you will be reverted if you don't ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know. I'm now trying to fix them one by one, which will take some time. I will make a disambiguation too after all the links have been fixed. By the way do I have to fix those in the talk pages please? Christopher2625649908 (talk) 09:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You don't have to, - case by case. I think it's somewhere in my talk archives but probably about what a silly article name that is, - no need to change that one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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