User talk:Casliber/Archive 26

DYK for Edwards's Fig-parrot

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SoWhy 08:14, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Lystrosaurus

Hi, Casliber. I've just checked the changes since my last edit and as far as I can see the content, structure and almost all the words are as in my rewrite. So I guess I'll hang this in my trophy cabinet if it passes. --Philcha (talk) 11:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely - if you have some references that can fill out the other stuff (history/classification/paleoecology), that would be great. I'll ping some others and we'll see if we can get it over the line. Nice work BTW :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd love to, except that I'm GA reviewing 4, trying upgrade Bryozoa to GA, expecting to have to "defend" Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets at GA review sometime soon (it'll come at an inconvenient time, of course) - plus whatever crops up, e.g a buddy of mine may come back from a break all fired up about Fossils of the Burgess Shale, which he proposed we should get to FA for the centenary of the the Burgess Shale's discovery.

IMO Lystrosaurus is not yet ready for FA review or even GA review, because of the gaps in coverage you listed, which anyone with reasonable experience of paleontology articles would spot instantly. That's why I never took it to GA review. My more modest objective at the time was to see if L. could cast any light on the P-Tr extinction and conditions shortly afterwards (it didn't). --Philcha (talk) 18:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I know the holes are big, and the only reason I am thinking that it can be hauled across the FA line is that what is there is well-writtne prose-wise. I'll see how today goes time-wise. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:31, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Lystro

The Bonehunters Revenge by Wallace, p. 43-45, gives some good tidbits (a solid paragraph) about the specimen's discovery and Cope's description. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 14:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

David - I will set up a place to slot it in - if you could that would be really really helpful :))) Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem, just tell me when you're ready :) --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 00:12, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Right about.................now Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Boletus satanas

I see what you mean about the confusion between Euro and NA species. How do you think this should be dealt with here on Wiki? If we have separate pages for each, there will be overlapping material, and the problem of not knowing for sure of the information we're basing the article on is really about the Euro or NA version (checking place of publication and nationality of author might help somewhat). Suggestions? Sasata (talk) 01:36, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The issue is whether the CAF website is considered a reliable source (I'd lean yes), but really needs some peer-reviewed literature backing it up. The two Thiers works of '65 and '75 listed on that page would be worth investigating. I beleive the CAF website has the thiers book online somewhere on their website. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

(PS: I copied this discussion to the article talk page. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC))

DYK for Asparagus densiflorus

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BorgQueen (talk) 02:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Banksia prionotes

I reckon we're about done. I only just noticed the Further Reading section. I'll grab that today or tomorrow. And we probably need to go over the talk page discussion carefully, to make sure all those comments have been addressed. Then I guess all it needs is a top quality copyedit. Hesperian 05:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, you happy with the order as is? I will have a look at any MOS stuff and talk page. You dissing my copyediting skils???????? I'll ask a copyeditor in hte next day or so. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I guess. Hesperian 06:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Forgot all about your scan request. Remembered this morning as I was heading out the door. Grabbed what I thought was the right paper, but alas! it is Cowling Lamont Pierce 1987. Don't abandon all hope; sooner or later I may pull my finger out and get you this scan as promised. Hesperian 23:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

ok. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

sent. Hesperian 06:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Ravenloft

Heya. :) Thanks for the (moral) support on EttBP - looks like that one is good to go. Peregrine is probably going to do the Ravenloft module next, so if you can lend a hand in any way, it would be mucho appreciated! BOZ (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Cool! He's been hard at work on those two. BOZ (talk) 02:26, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

D'oh! I started tinkering with the wrong one...Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

LOL - I was just about to mention. :) BOZ (talk) 04:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Third time's the charm! Have a look at tell us what you think. BOZ (talk) 22:22, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Banksia saxicola

I think I found a picture of Banksia saxicola on Flickr. Can you verify? Hesperian 00:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the characteristic look of the furry follicles give it away. Also note the nice lanceolate unserrated adult leaves. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Image question

Can I reap your benefits of your knowledge at User talk:Hesperian#Image question please? Hesperian 10:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

cihuateteo

Afraid I can't help you there. My interest in Nahuatl stems almost solely from the linguistic angle. 01:53, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, nevermind :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:09, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Birds August newsletter

The August 2009 issue of the Bird WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

Newsletter delivery by –xeno ^talk 02:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Pool of Radiance

Hey there. If you have the time, would you mind giving Pool of Radiance a look-over before I nominate it for GA? :) I've put a ton of work into it over the past month, and I feel it's looking pretty good. :) BOZ (talk) 19:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! BOZ (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Rorschach test

Hey Casliber. Have found a few further references on the use of the Rorschach by psychologist. Estimates seems to range from 20% - 80%. But I have my doubts about the validity of these studies. Most seem to be mail out surveys: Ie you like the test, you mail out a questionare to all the people you met at last years Rorschach convention and ask them how often they use the test. Than you publish the results.

Have you seen a better overview of prevalence? I ask at my hospital and no one here uses it. Cheers Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I have found it frustrating the holes about how things are used in our jobs sometimes (eg, noting there's stuff no-one uses anymore. Not that it is discredited as such but that it sorta fades away. Will have a look and ask around. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Your comment at Attalus I FAR

Hi Casliber, I don't suppose it is particularly important, but I don't understand your remark here. Paul August ☎ 17:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

The style of prose that you adopted in writing the text struck me immediately as uncannily reminiscent of the prose (in English) of the Greek and Latin writings I studied at school. Not sure why, maks me wonder about the construction - and I was amused :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:09, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for creating Charles Mortram Sternberg

I stumbled upon Charles Mortram Sternberg, an article you created, and I really found his life fascinating as I was adding new sources. Thanks. If you have any other articles like this, I would be very interested. Ikip (talk) 00:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - there are numerous scientists with very stubby articles - e.g. this person with whom I share a first name --> 5x = DYK :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I will look at that today, thanks.Ikip (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

that was a hard one. I couldn't find any articles on the man. I added some of his french books to the page, and found some searchable google books. Do you have anymore intresting stubs? Ikip (talk) 22:41, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Thank you for the encouragement and the tweaking of my Melaleuca quinquenervia edits. My specialities are native Australian essential oils, bushfood, and plant toxicology. I also have a good reference library. I'd also love to get involved with a group edit, and please feel free to include me, as I'd also like to pick-up some tips from Wiki masters such as yourself. Cheers.Aareo (talk) 22:45, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I know the basic understanding re edit changes. Do you want to do some joint editing on Acronychia oblongifolia and Austromyrtus dulcis?Aareo (talk) 10:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeh, like that! That was quick off the mark on Tasmannia lanceolata! Great stuff.Aareo (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Glochidion ferdinandi is a nice article - especially re the plant associations. Good ecological nuance.Aareo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to the DYK page. There are so many nooks and crannies to wikipedia it seems that it would take years to master it. Maybe you can help with regards to a query - why are some articles still considered stubs when they are obviously more developed i.e. Santalum acuminatum? Is there a shortage of people to check these things?Aareo (talk) 21:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Creating IPC articles

Why on earth would I not have the right to create them? I have no intention of nominating any of them for deletion, and you are free to spend as long as you like looking for sources. I do not understand your systematic opposition to this compromise. I'd like to direct you to my new FAQ, where I address this in additional detail. Mintrick (talk) 00:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I've started a more specific discussion about the matter at hand at Talk:Black dog ghosts in popular culture. Mintrick (talk) 01:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

MDD

Cas, I just found at TS that mindsite.com no longer has the DSM definitions, so that link will need to be fixed at Major depressive disorder. <grrrrr ... do you remember what we went through with that guy ???> SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I replaced it with a link to BehaveNet. Eubulides (talk) 08:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. The last 24 hours has been a bit of a train wreck IRL..Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Book learnin'

Gnarly!

As I was driving along today, lazily gazing out over the footslopes of Bold Hill, I saw a copse of lovely trees that I didn't recognise, about 50 metres off the road. Pretty big, with a sleek, graceful habit and an open canopy, and very light grey trunks. All of a sudden, all that book learnin' clicked into place, and I knew I was looking at B. prionotes in its natural habitat. So I jammed on the handbrake, grabbed the camera, and tore off into the bush. They weren't in flower, of course, so I haven't much to show for it: a couple of habit pics, some bark, and a nice old cone. But that's hardly the point, is it? ;-) Hesperian 11:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Heh, good one. Nice to get out into it (naytcher that is...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Psaltoda plaga

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Wikiproject: Did you know? 20:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Prostrate shrub

It's long enough for DYK now. You have more experience with that than I do, so would you like to nominate it? --Tryptofish (talk) 19:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's plenty big enough now - I cobbled together one hook, but there might be a better one, so you are welcome to slot in an alternative underneath. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Peer review/Badnjak

This says that you are willing to review articles related to mythology and folklore. Well, the badnjak can be placed into those categories, among others, and I would very much appreciate your review. Cheers, VVVladimir (talk) 21:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Warning not being followed

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

okay okay, I get the picture. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

---

Despite this, he is still following me and obviously reacting/commenting to my posts and all of the following were made right in a row today as a rapid fire flurry: [1], [2], [3], etc. . Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 15:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

AfD	A Nobody	Jack Merridew
Alien Shaplay	20:23, 12 August 2009	05:37, 13 August 2009
Hapes Consortium	17:11, 10 August 2009	05:32, 13 August 2009
Todd Williams	15:39, 12 August 2009	05:26, 13 August 2009

In each case, Merridew is specifically responding to A Nobody's claim:

• "Non-notable" is not a compelling reason for deletion on a paperless encyclopedia.

By writing:

• Non-Notable — delete

It appears like possible baiting. Ikip (talk) 20:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

See also

WP:FORUMSHOP, WP:TAGTEAM, and John's page. Sincerely, Jack Merridew ;) 02:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am getting pretty sick of this. what gives?????? Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Me too. AN needs to listen to the comments and proposals on John's page. Cheers, Jack Merridew 03:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Have to agree with Jack here... AN is starting to look like the source of the problem to me. Complete failure to constructively engage, blows off advice given by others, characterizing it as trolling, repeats behaviours warned about, and so forth. Time to impose the proposal made on John's page and then enforce it, because it's pretty tiresome. ++Lar: t/c 03:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I am indeed tired of Jack continuing to troll AfDs, ignoring warnings, and continuing to harass his opponents. He needs to be banned from interactions with me and from AfDs altogether, if not rebanned completely. There is no positive editing coming from him that somehow negates the overwhelming and irrefutable negatives. He has made a mockery of the good faith of other editors who tried to give him a second choance and no one can any longer honestly and objectively characterize his edits with regards to myself and fiction AfDs as good faith or constructive. The way forward is to just ban him from fiction AFDs as should have happened in the first place and from interacting with me any further. He has played too many editos for it to be allowed to continue. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 04:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

NO, A Nobody. This is not Jack, all Jack all the time. You're not listening. As per usual. YOU are a large part of the problem. As you have been with others in the past. ++Lar: t/c 04:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Jack was unblocked with the conditions to make NO, not even remotely disruptive edits. Even YOU have warned him for his snide comments to Daedalus and I am not even though one who saw fit to recently start a Wikiquette alert on him. You cannot deny that he has indeed made some disruptive edits, which means he has violated his unblock agreement to make no disruptive edits. Given the history, none of us should have any tolerance for even the appearance of problematic editing. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 04:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

"lalalala I can't hear you" -- sincerely, A Nobody.

Don't you get it? Jack is imperfect, we all are, but this is NOT 100% his problem, and you're exaggerating. YOU have responsibility TOO. Not all of it, but until you admit that, you're the problem here, or most of it. Sorry to be blunt but I am so tired of pussyfooting around with you. Man up. ++Lar: t/c 04:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I just had a quick look at A Nobody's talk page and history - I don't recall hearing about anyone else unrelated to all this complaining about his conduct recently, unless I am missing something (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

[4], [5], [6], [7]. Deor (talk) 12:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

• From DGG:[8].
• From Kww:[9][10][11].

It's well past time to treat A Nobody as a disruptive editor. I'm not fond of Jack Merridew, either, and continue to express surprise that he was allowed to begin editing again.—Kww(talk) 14:43, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

• From Josette: [12]  pablo_hablo. 15:04, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

noted. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Do any of these complaints rise to the level of what A Nobody is alleging, harrassment and stalking? I see procedural complaints from editors who oppose how A Nobody saves articles, I don't see any rule breaking. Again, I remind you all, that this discussion is about alleged harrassment and stalking. Ikip (talk) 13:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

And then KWW jumps in, a frequent fierce critic of A Nobody, and offers the absurd. You are actually citing DGG comment[13] as disruption?

Quote: "Do you really think Gerfnit is rescuable? A character in a self-published novel? Don't wast the impact of the template on such as this"

If this is the height of A Nobody's disruption, Jack had better start praying there is no RfC.

Again the reason we are here, the only reason we are here, is because Jack edited 3 AfDs that A Nobody had. Ikip (talk) 15:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

… which he is perfectly entitled to do …  pablo_hablo. 15:19, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I won't argue that I'm not a critic of A Nobody, and make no effort to hide it. I think he should have been banned in his previous identity, and it is obvious that his underlying behaviour has never changed, and that he is incapable of listening to criticism and responding to it. If you cannot listen and respond to criticism, it is impossible to edit collaboratively.—Kww(talk) 15:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am welcome to good faith and legitimate suggestions for improvement; I do not take seriously hypocritical, biased, or unrealistic attacks made by those who do stuff like mockingly refer to me by something other than "A Nobody." Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I have never mocked you. I have strongly and seriously criticized you, and think that your change of identities was a sham, but I have never mocked you. You really need to learn that people can think bad things about you and do so in good faith. I have a sincere, deeply held, and profound belief that either your behaviour should change or you should not be permitted to edit Wikipedia any longer. That isn't mockery.—Kww(talk) 17:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Please be honest. You know full well that you mockingly referred to me by my old username on the WP:FICT notability disucssion page as discussed at User_talk:Kww/04022009#Don.27t_change_my_comments. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

That wasn't mocking. That was simply pointing out that your arguments had to be considered in light of the fact that they were being made by an editor that was on the edge of being blocked in his former identity, specifically for making deceitful edits in the effort to preserve articles that should be deleted. You continue that habit to this day in the form of edit summaries that attempt to conceal the true nature of the underlying edit. That's not mockery, but criticism. There's a substantial difference between the two.—Kww(talk) 18:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

That is bogus. No one should ever mockingly refer to anyone by an old username. Especially when I got bullied off and into changing names by the various incarnations of now banned editors. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

My and others' good faith here has been made a mockery of and exhausted and it is a downright travesty to pretend otherwise and to excuse it any longer. I really hope you can understand that. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 05:03, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Damn. And now I hav' to 'ncod' words containing th' l'tt'r b'tw''n 'd' and 'f' som'how.

• User talk:Jack Merridew#e

B'st, Jack ;) 03:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hold on a second, noone can dispute the facts:

FACT ONE: A Nobody edited 3 pages, and

FACT TWO: Jack responded directly to A Nobody's comments on those three pages later.

Focus A Nobody, stop writing long paragraphs few will bother to read. [Reread what you wrote and refactor out most of this stuff]

Anytime Jack or Lar attempts to draw you away from these facts, simply restate them.

Everyone knows, including Lar and Jack, that they cannot dispute these core facts.

I think it is clear that no one person wants to get in the middle of this mess, and won't take action.

Maybe we should all move this away from User talk:John Vandenberg and User talk:Casliber to an RfC. I would happily endorse an RFC A Nobody. Ikip (talk) 12:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It is a fact, as Ikip says, that A Nobody edited three AfDs and Jack Merridew later edited the same three AfDs. It is not a fact that this is evidence of "stalking" or "harassment", although such accusations of victimisation (particularly at AfD) are nothing new - see here for a vintage example

A Nobody seems to be attempting to brəathə life into this dead horse.  pablo_hablo. 13:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am glad that we can all argee that Jack is editing pages that A Nobody has first. Is this harrassment or stalking? Ultimately it appears that arbitration will have to decide, because Jack seems to continue to do it, and A Nobody continues to react to Jack doing it. And no admin wants to wade into this mess, and end this cycle now. Ikip (talk) 13:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

@Pablo: Kewl; and note that I made only *one* edit to en:wp in August '08. Cheers, Jack Merridew 14:01, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

A nobody, I maybe wrong, but it appears like this may not be the best place to complain. That leaves you with 3 options: your complaint with John, an RFC, or ignoring Jack. Ikip (talk) 14:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

FINALLY Some AWESOME advice. A Nobody needs to ignore Jack, and drop this whole "stalking/harassment" thing. Just man up and go on about his business. As he's been advised before. Repeatedly. ++Lar: t/c 14:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If Jack stops baiting me and making unconstructive edits, we can all move ahead nicely and I, Daedalus, Hullabollo, and everyone else he pokes fun at will indeed not have to say anything. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

(ec) Ikip: They may be "facts" but they're irrelevant. Who did what first is playground talk. This constant beating Jack about the head with charges of stalking, harrassment, "he started it", etc, while characterizing good faith comments by others as "trolling" is disruptive. I think an RfC/U on A Nobody may well be in order. I think A Nobody will be surprised(*) and dismayed at how many people find his behaviour unhelpful.

* - very few other people will be surprised, but A Nobody will be... he's got "lalalala, I can't hear you" down to an art form, or so it appears. To reiterate, Jack isn't blameless but until A Nobody admits he's part of the problem and changes his overall behaviour, I think the focus needs to remain on A Nobody's behaviour. ++Lar: t/c 14:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it looks like there was a warning by Calisber:

20:11, 24 March 2009 "Please leave you know who alone, and leave off allusions to you know what. WP is a big place."[14]

Jack ignored this advice.

From WP:STALKING WP:HOUNDING:

If "following another user around" is accompanied by tendentiousness, personal attacks, or other disruptive behavior, it may become a very serious matter and could result in blocks and other editing restrictions.

Lar maybe you see these facts as "irrelevant" but the wikipedia community finds this behavior pretty serious, if in fact Jack is guitly of this. Ikip (talk) 15:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The problem here, and now, is A Nobody's inability to stop badgering Jack over everything, and stop being disruptive in general. Jack is not perfect. Jack has things he needs to work on. Jack needs to not rise to being baited, and not give into temptation to show how clever he is. These are all known facts. But A Nobody is not being helpful here by tendentiously raising this issue over and over, when what he should do is just go on about his business. This alleged issue that A Nobody has with Jack is small beer in the grand scheme of things. The issue the community as a whole has, or should have, with A Nobody is rather larger. Look to the beam in your own (friend's) eye, before you complain about the mote in someone else's. As for your allegation elsewhere that I'm engaging in personal attacks in any of this... utter hogwash. ++Lar: t/c 15:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If he stopped badgering me and making generally disruptive edits and only being tendentiously supported by you I would not have to keep reporting it. As Pixelface and Kww have argued, the community should never have given someone who long-term harassed another editor another chance and especially not after he obviously violated his unblock agreement. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

"Tendentiously supported" ??? I think you mean I'm patiently refuting your tendentious badgering. You may also want to take into account that Kww is saying you're the problem here, before you blithely quote him. Man up and give this a rest. ++Lar: t/c 17:40, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It is revealing that most of your edits this month consist of trying to defend Jack in his various disputes and violations of policy, not just here, but also at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jack Merridew/Blood and Roses and Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Jack_Merridew, just as you did at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive550#User:Jack_Merridew_and_User:Daedalus969. That means since being unblocked and agreeing to make NO disruptive edits, he has badgering me, Daedalus969, Hullabaloo, etc. And for some unknown reason you have decided to serve as his advocate in pretty much all of these disputes. If you had to put up with the edits that got him banned in the first place, perhaps you would not be so sympathetic now. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 17:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It is revealing indeed!!! What it reveals is how much time of good editors folk like you can waste that could be spent more productively. To be fair, I did manage to squeeze out Rika's Landing Roadhouse in that time, but since I sometimes write a lot of text at one go, it didn't boost my edit count all that much. You did not have to "put up with the edits that got him banned" so give that a rest. In fact, give the whole thing a rest. Man up and move on. ++Lar: t/c 18:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

You haven't edited any article pages in days, unlike myself, but instead are just focusing on defending a proven liar who was determined to have harassed editors for years. Shameful. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

To be fair, I think the best solution to this problem is to block Jack Merridew, because his behaviour can reasonably be argued to be in violation of his return agreement, and to block A Nobody, because under the terms of RTV, he should not be permitted to edit Wikipedia. If he was a net positive to the site, there would be an argument for overlooking his abuse of the right to vanish. Since he's a net negative, there's no reason to do so.—Kww(talk) 17:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I agree with the first part, but as for the second and unlike the first user, I have made many constributions (the bulk of my edits consist in welcoming new users, fixing spaces between periods and references, and other goodies that have resulted in User:A_Nobody#List_of_editors_who_have_agreed_with_my_arguments_or_made_other_nice_observations_about_my_efforts and User:A_Nobody#Barnstars.2C_cookies.2C_smiles.2C_and_thanks) that literally dozens of editors appreciate. As far my failed attempt to vanish, yes, I probably could/should have handled that better and I do indeed apologize for any errors I made in the process, but what you forget is that I have indeed been maligned, including and not limited to swear word laden blustering emails that twice caused me to close down email accounts, through much of my time as an editor by the various incarnations of banned users User:Eyrian, User:Everyme, User:AnteaterZot, and several others. As with the episodes and characters arbcom when White Cat and I identified problems with Jack and were met with the usual reaction like I am getting by some here, we were ultimately proven correct, just as happened with the other aforementioned users. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I call BS. The bulk of your edits are not productive, they are drama inducing. ++Lar: t/c 18:20, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Your unhelpful commentary in defense of Jack are indeed unproductive, drama inducing, and to be fair, "bs". Why haven't you edited any pages in the last week? Why are you just going around sticking up for one editor across multiple venues when myself and others are actually trying to improve articles in the meantime? Who are you kidding? Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 18:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

And to the bigger picture...

I appreciate your comment on the CiterSquad talk page. Indeed, you do see the bigger picture here; that Wikipedia has become a rather unfriendly place to be a new editor (or even an old editor, for that matter). A matter of concern for me is that we are hemorrhaging editors -- particularly the people who add new content -- as verified by at least one recent study. Projects that exclusively do tagging are so unfriendly; it's like having people running down your street with spray-paint cans, tagging houses "this house needs to be painted"! and then running off, and all the while they could have been pitching in to help paint. I think the 'unreferenced' tags should be invisible to readers, but available to editors in categories and lists, but recognize I'm probably in the minority on that. Anyway ... thanks for the comments there. It's good to know I'm not the only one thinking about such things. Antandrus (talk) 14:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Meanwhile, even though it was one of the more unequivocal take-home messages from my handy-dandy poll, folks will still argue about the usual yada yada yada..... I meant to append my message there with a (jumps up and down and waves hands shouting), but well...you know...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

The Cow That Thinks She's A Horse

Please check the contributions of The Cow That Thinks She's A Horse (talk · contribs). After thinking about it for a while, given that this editors only edits are to user talk namespace and the fact that it is a new account, I believe that this user is a sockpuppet of another user. Since you're a checkuser, should it be checked? Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Please also see the ANI thread: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:The Cow That Thinks She's A Horse. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 06:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Historian

Looks like it is finally going to be reviewed just as I leave town. Will try to pop in from various wi-fi spots. Awadewit (talk) 06:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I will try to help out and fix issues to get it over the line. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Geastrum triplex

Hey, two small issues with our latest fungal GA- firstly, the linolenic acid link points to a dab page, and I don't know which is the correct target, and secondly, we have no article on fungul sessility- the closest we have is sessility (botany), which is obviously not the same thing. J Milburn (talk) 12:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Ack. well spotted. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The sessility in that sense (directly attached and not having a stalk) is the correct term in that case. I suspect the linolenic acid is alpha, but am not 100% sure...Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Cas, it was nice waking up and finding this article reviewed! Thanks. I fixed the dab to alpha-linolenic acid. Sasata (talk) 14:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Heh, it was a relief waking up and finding you had the answer to the lat little bit...now for coffee....:) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The Content Review Medal of Merit

		The Content Review Medal of Merit
		For your comments and contributions during the Peer review of the article Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics (Peer review). Thank you; Felipe Menegaz 22:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Jack Merridew

Hi. I see you're editing at the moment; could you review the noise at:

• User talk:John Vandenberg#User:Jack Merridew and
• User talk:Jack Merridew#Your userpage

Thanks, Jack Merridew 06:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

File:JMUser.png is how we are seeing his userpage. Prodego ^talk 07:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Ya, Wikipedia:Vector broke the page model. Try monobook, which works correctly. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Handle as you see fit. Prodego ^talk 07:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Amanita abrupta

Hi again Cas. I started the above article after recently seeing a cool pic on Mushroom Observer, thinking I'd quickly pop out a DYK; kept going until my online sources were exhausted, and it looks like there's enough there for a GAN. If you have the time, I'd appreciate it if you could give it a once-over and let me know if you think it's missing anything. Thanks, Sasata (talk) 07:17, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

(p.s. just found List of deadly fungi... this nice article has featured list potential with some work, methinks... any ballpark on the # of species it would need to meet the "completeness" requirement?)

NSW plants and psychiatrists

Thanks for editing some of my articles on plants of New South Wales. I do need an editor to clean up the errors on my Wikipedia articles.

I see on your profile that you are a psychiatrist. I've got bad memories of psychiatrists, seeing a few of them in the 1980s.

One of whom was an associate of Harry Bailey. Not only was he a psychiatrist, but Harry Bailey was a rapist and a mass murderer. Another psychiatrist doctor from Northside Clinic was investigated by the medical health tribunal, for his malpractice to me. I received an apology for his disgraceful behaviour.

It seems that mental health workers are often more bad than good. And many have mental health issues of a considerable degree, much worse than the average person. In my experience, their narcissism and vigorous desire for self aggrandizement appears to be a necessary quality to become a mental health worker.

Apparently psychiatrists have a higher than average suicide rate. And from meeting some of these people, the more they kill themselves, the better society will be.

Some doctors do good things, and I hope you are one of them. Poyt448 (talk) 12:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Barry Mill

Thanks for rating "my" article. I'm afraid I've never really understood the rating thing. However I note that "C" means you think that it is "still missing important content or contains a lot of irrelevant material" - can you say what. I think I've exhausted all the available sources. I note you think that it may also require "substantial cleanup" and/or it "has gaps or missing elements; need editing for clarity, balance or flow; or contain policy violations such as bias or trivia.". I'm sure it can be improved (and I hope over time, with help from others, it will), but it would be helpful if you could explain more precisely what significant faults or violations you detect that I might try to remedy them. Thanks.--Scott Mac (Doc) 14:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

My rating scale generally doesn't use as many brain cells as that, I slung on 'C' as it was better than a 'start' ....lemme look again...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics

Hi Casliber! Could you make a gramatical review of the article Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics; removing redundances, etc? Regards; Felipe Menegaz 19:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Might take a day or two. Reminnd me in 48 hours if I haven't edited it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you; Felipe Menegaz 22:02, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

No need to be reminded... :) Felipe Menegaz 17:56, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Mythdon proposal at ANI

This message is being sent to inform the Arbitration Committee of a sanction proposal forbidding me from editing Arbitration Committee pages and talk pages. Discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Mythdon and Arbitration Mythdon (talk • contribs) 05:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOTBROKEN

Food for thought. Hesperian 03:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I actually was musing on this for future reference. I was fixing redirects as I was rereading the prosed as one generally gets pinged on it at FAC. The best solution I can see is noting on the talk page that it might be worth checking once the future articles on plant bits are split out into own articles. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:42, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Book lookup

No problem, will have a look at Bresinsky / compare with the list of deadly fungi in the next few days, will let you known/edit the article if I find anything useful. Cheers Mr Bungle | talk 06:54, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

thanks - much appreciated :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey Casimir, Sorry about the delayed response, been busy IRL, anyway Bresinsky list the following as potentially fatal: Amanita phalloides, Amanita verna, Amanita virosa, Galerina marginata, Galerina sulciceps, Lepiota helveola, Lepiota brunneoincarnata, Lepiota citrophylla, Cortinarius orellanus, Gyromitra esculenta, Inocybe erubescens, Paxillus involutus. I had a quick look and they all appear to be on the list. The book is getting a bit old now but it does have quite a few good mongraphs; you can look at the contents on Amazon so if you're stuck for info on any (poisonous) mushroom let me know (also each mongraph has a quite good 'confusion with' section which might be helpful for the deadly list if I ever get around to adding the info!). Mr Bungle | talk 04:23, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I have found information on Galerina sulciceps really hard to come by. If there is anything to make a stub and basic info that would be great :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Done! Sasata (talk) 06:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Beat me to it! it's lookin good thou :) Mr Bungle | talk 07:17, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Vocabluary

The word you are looking for here is "reasonable". --Stephan Schulz (talk) 08:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

(snaps fingers) hey yeah....Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

However

...Please take note that I already struck the comment. No further action is needed. I assume you did not notice, but you're free to answer that. I've made a short statement there. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 01:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Reply

I have just replied to your comment here. It is the question that I also asked you on your talk page. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 02:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

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Gray wolf

Cas, would you be able to have a look at Talk:Gray_wolf#Move.3F? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

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Dog Trumpet

Have done some work and re-instated the article I believe that it provides enough evidence now to establish its notability. Dan arndt (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Heck, you don't need to convince me. I've seen the Mentals in concert... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:26, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Could you make more edits in Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics? Regards; Felipe Menegaz 16:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Cherie??

I read a book recently and the main character used Cherie as an endearment. I looked it up and it said it was a singer. Now i have taken into a ccount that this book was based in the 1800's. I wander if you know if this is french or spanish? it would seriously help my search because it is really doing my nut in. Thank you :) Assyria hightower (talk) 20:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

This --> Mon Chéri - is what came to my mind....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:35, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate your help. Thankies :) My mind is at rest lol Assyria hightower (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Opinion

Hi Cas - I would like to ask your opinion on the template discussion at Template talk:Nrl2009ladder. I'm a bit concerned I might be feeling a tad territorial. No harm if you do agree with the changes, they'll only be there for two weeks anyway.  florrie  02:10, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Not sure that I agree about a "speculative" ladder being better, particularly as there are absolutely no references cited, but I've unwatched the page for now. Cheers,  florrie  06:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Heck, just open up the herald or the tele every second day or so Florrie ;) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Nah, the Tigers possibles/probables/could bes are burned into my brain!  florrie  11:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

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James Nesbitt

Thank you very much for your help and support in getting this article to featured status! Bradley0110 (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries, a pleasure to read. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:17, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Icos FAC

I've nominated Icos for FA status. Your suggestions at the peer review were helpful, and I'd welcome any comments at the FAC. Shubinator (talk) 16:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Friendly ping. The only comment so far has been a source check, so a review is all the more valuable. Shubinator (talk) 05:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Atractocarpus chartaceus

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Your long title for the nomination screws up the template so you'll have to scroll down to find it. Good work by the way! Smartse (talk) 23:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

proposed enforcement

Your "proposed enforcement" needs a name. After all "enforcement by template" probably falls foul of "do not template the regulars" :) Guettarda (talk) 03:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics

Hi Casliber! I replied your comment in Talk:Rio de Janeiro bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics. Thank you for the feedback! Cheers; Felipe Menegaz 00:28, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Cat

I've been doing some work on this article. Since you did such a good job with bringing lion to FA, could you cast your eye over this article (ignore the lead) and see what you think still needs to be done? Tim Vickers (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

miaow (couldn't sleep...just about 6 am here....) Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:57, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle/Nominations

You helped with User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle/Nominations in the past, care to make it a more regular occurrence? :) Cirt (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, that's somewhere that had not been on my radar for a while. Yeah, I'll take a look later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:07, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks! Cirt (talk) 20:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Cas

Greetings from afar. I see ARB headaches and flocks of bird articles haven't driven you off. Just testing the wiki water, myself.

You know I love cats, but the domestic variety has never really done it for me. Keep that to yourself... Marskell (talk) 21:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Great find!

I decided to give it a try, and it worked! I figured I'd take a shot in the dark and look at White Dwarf's review of the Monster Manual, and lo and behold I got a quick blurb for the poor persucted mimic and several other creatures! :) I'm going to have a look at their review of the Fiend Folio and Monster Manual II to see what other creatures I can add a quick independent reference to. :) BOZ (talk) 00:46, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Jewels, etc.

Thanks for the Triple Crown — I'd forgotten I'd applied!  :) MeegsC | Talk 01:01, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks from me as well. Giants2008 (17–14) 01:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for going through that long backlog. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. I shall wear them with pride.--DavidCane (talk) 20:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The Spurs go marching on

Doncaster (who?) 1 - 5 Spurs in the Carling Cup last night, Birmingham at home next. However, September starts with Man U. (away!) and Chelsea, so I expect they're quaking in their boots.

Whatever happens from now, last season it was October 26 before we had scored 7 goals, August 18 this year, and after eight games we had just two points - and then Saint 'Arry arrived to lead us toward the promised land. I'll forgive your scepticism, since as an Ozzie, you can't be expected to understand the finer points of football (or cricket eh eh eh) Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:15, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, I have been to Doncaster, I woke up on a train there after drinking alot of "Roger and Out" at the Frog and Parrot in Sheffield. Days of yore in Australia meant watching the FA cup in the wee hours - watched them from '77 so saw several spurs victories...Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:28, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Advisory Council on Project Development

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Back to the proposal to recodify civility

Cas, please consider revisiting and commenting on the remaining issues. Tony (talk) 01:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

In response to Carcharoth's points, I've expanded the lead in the blue box. What do you think? link. Tony (talk) 14:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Co-nomination procedure question

Another user and I are wanting to co-nominate an article for FAC. I've made solo nominations before, but I'm unsure about the details of how to do a co-nomination. I noticed that you've done one, so I was just wondering how you input two different nominators. Do you just type in the user:names at the top of the template? If you have time to reply, it would be appreciated. Thanks. BillTunell (talk) 21:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Easy peasy - just do it the standard way. Once the template is up, converted and transcluded, add the conominator to the nominator bit. Give me a hoy afterwards if you have trouble. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

GAs - one to look at

Hey Casliber,

So you do GA reviews, want to take a look at Dominant white, which is a horse coat color genetics article, and for the lead editor (not me) it's her very first run at GA. I'd like to see someone with a thorough but KIND approach take that one on...it's in the same pile as Cleveland Bay way, and was put up earlier, should you wonder about jumping the queue... ;-) I can't review it because I did some work on it, but the lead author did all the heavy lifting. AND she's about to get real busy in real life, so it would be cool if we could tuck this one in. Thanks. Montanabw^(talk) 01:36, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, I am in a mood for horsing around :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:21, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

ABBA Discography

Hi, Casliber, I often find your name on articles I'm interested in other than music. Speaking of music, of which, I was wondering if you might have a look at ABBA's discography, and see what you might think about this. (This also is the main reason I'm writing to you, as you isolate yourself from certain things.) Now I use to be User talk:76.198.234.254, but I now like going by Discographer. Should you click on the history of that article, you will find that I happen to be the main editor, too. The reason for this request is that I was hoping you might be interested in nominating it as a featured article, or something; I sure am! Also, knowing that you're a check-user, I've had my computer I.D. abrubtly changed by AT&T in late July, which is why I preceeded in going by (first, CanadianCat, now) Discographer. Thanks very much! --Discographer (talk) 10:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, umm..huh? I isolate myself from certain things? I don't understand what this refers to...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:24, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, nothing bad, I mean you like to keep a neutral point of view on things. I do too. I suppose that's what I should have typed originally. Sorry about that. Anyway, can you please at least have a look at it? Thanks. --Discographer (talk) 16:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

ABBA's music labels differed throughout countries of the world, until Universal Music Group bought them out. This label is listed in their discography, as are Benny Andersson and Bjorn Ulvaeus as the songwriters and producers. --Discographer (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Casliber, I did what you told me to do on ABBA's talk page, so might you have another look at their discography, please. Yes, I hope you make this a Featured list; I truly do. Thanks. --Discographer (talk) 17:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I can't think of anything else to do for the discography. With your improvements added, I think it even looks better than the Red Hot Chili Peppers discography!!! --75.46.204.158 (talk) 21:33, 29 August 2009 (UTC) Oh, I want you to know my I.D. for absolute openness and honesty. --Discographer (talk) 21:36, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

We-ell, I suspect the lead will need a little more polishing but if you want to go and nominate now then that is your prerogative...Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:39, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Can you help me more with the lead, please? Please. --Discographer (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Thought you might say that. I have to wind something up and disappear for a few hours though. Try and model it on the other one yourself, and I will drop by later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks! --Discographer (talk) 22:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi again, Casliber, Well, except for the lead itself, I've worked more on ABBA and think it looks smashing! I hope you also think it's just as good as Red Hot! --Discographer (talk) 01:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Here's something interesting, concerning the charts on Red Hot Chili's page, they are not listed for most countries, whereas that country name is instead. On ABBA's, they are all listed except for Argentina and South Africa, as neither one has no official music charts. --Discographer (talk) 01:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Flaming Joel and We didn't start the fire

For the events in the lyric we don't have any references. In some ways this is perfectly normal, the success of the song was dependent on everybody knowing what these things referred to, and the things referred to were the top news items of each year in chronological order. On the other hand, I don't want to suggest that we use "This is common knowledge" if somebody asks how we know that "Hypodermics on the shore" refers to Syringe Tide.

Does anybody know of a citeable source that we can use to justify (at least to some extent) our links to specific items? I doubt there is anything like an "official source" (but see Joel quote I put in about the first verse or two). The only thing we have in the article now is an external link to a bloggish source [15]

Might there be a source interpreting these events? Sure, why not - I've seen such interpretations for Hotel California, and Bye-Bye, Miss American Pie, why not for "Fire"? (see e.g. sources in Hotel California#Themes and American_Pie#External_links) A big Barnstar for whoever finds such a source!

I don't mind the creative interpretations on User:Casliber/Flaming Joel-wiki, but I think for the article we need something better. Smallbones (talk) 20:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, er, yeah I agree. The Flaming-Joel wiki was firmly tongue in cheek and non-serious, and the article is a different matter. I suspect that a Billy Joel biography would be a good place to start, or maybe a Rolling Stone interview about the time the song was released - those'd be good places to start. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue/3

Hey, on Template:Did you know/Queue/3 it seems two of the hooks say they are pictured, but only the first one is. Could you fix this please? - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

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August 2009 California wildfires

I see you're awake (Aussie and all). The article is prominently linked (top 10) at Google news, and has almost no content. If you're interested in putting WP's best face forward, and being read more widely than a top reporter, you might add a sentence or two (or tell some Aussies about it). It's a bit late here in the US. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 09:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

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Aquascaping feedback

I've been working on aquascaping, and I'm thinking about putting it up for GA/FA. I was wondering if you would be kind enough to take a quick look at it when you have the time (not urgent), and let me know what you think of the page and any ideas for improving it. Thanks! --Tryptofish (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Very helpful, and much appreciated. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Westea

Thought you might be interested in this fungal genus I came across while stub-buffing. Sasata (talk) 21:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Heh, cool :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

GA Reviews

Hi Casliber! Thank you so much for the GA reviews on the Cleveland Bay and Marwari. If you aren't completely bored of horse-related articles, would you mind taking a quick look at Icelandic horse? I'm working on taking it to FAC, and am trying to get as many eyes on it as possible. You had some great comments about my other articles, and so I'd love to get your thoughts on it. If not, no biggie! Thanks again. Dana boomer (talk) 00:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Christopher Smart's asylum confinement

Remember this? At the current FAC, someone is challenging why I put those authors in and saying they are not representative nor deal with Smart. Their changes would want to completely destroy the article and really breach OR and the rest. Sigh. I probably shouldn't have relisted it at FAC. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

sigh - will revisit soon. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be fine now - once I explained that it was following the only sources on the matter without drawing in information outside of Smart criticism, there was no need to bring in other sources, etc. Blah. However, there is also some questioning about helping people understand "private madhouse" or wikilinking to "mental asylum", even though the two are part of something that is very different than the psychiatric system discussed on Wikipedia. Any suggestions? Ottava Rima (talk) 13:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you

Hi Casliber, I just wanted to say thank you for your recent review of Quiriguá for FA, and for your support of its nom - and also for the Triple Crown you recently dropped into my talk page. Many thanks! Simon Burchell (talk) 15:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Stop Pussyfootin

The Turnpike and Interstate 95 in New Jersey articles are in the near future.Mitch32^{(Want help? See here!)} 15:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Leicester City F.C./GA1

Any progress on your or the nom's end? Wizardman 18:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The nominator is new at GA/FA stuff and has done a bit of improving. I'd do more myself but don't have much at all on the club. I think I'll ask for a second opinion. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Arbcom question

I'm trying to build a good sentence or so to overview the community's views on paid admining for the WP:Paid editing page. Several folks have mentioned multiple cases of paid admining/editing discussed at Arbcomm but I'm only seeing the Nichalm (sp?) one. So, are you aware of any cases addressing paid editing in general and is there a friendly way to find out this information regarding Arbcom past discussions as many are redacted or simply masked so searching is rendered compromised. Any help appreciated. -- Banjeboi 00:21, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Best might be to post the question to the Functionaries mailing list - cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:26, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Cheers, will give it a go. -- Banjeboi 01:22, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

RE: Mercy for Animals

Thank you Calisber for removing the tag, be ready for the AFD in the next hour.

I seem to have made a tight knit little group of animal rights editors mad.

This game is so predictable.

Some editors seem to spend all their time criticizing other editors contributions.

Did you read the speedy deletion reason? A7? The editor used the club tag for bands to nominate it, etc.

Last time I ranted on your page it seemed to have a negative effect. So I will stop now. Time to get ready for the AFD.

Ikip (talk) 02:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Huh? I thought the animal rights editors would be happy to have the material highlighted....(Scratches head) now I am really confused....Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:19, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Socorro springsnail review

Hello, thank you for reviewing Socorro springsnail. I think you would also like to read Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gastropods#Universal sections, because sections of this article were a bit discussed (you can see one revert in the article and discussion User talk:Invertzoo#Socorro_springsnail). Despite this, your changes in the article are acceptable. There are no other GA articles of gastropod species yet, so we have not much articles for inspiration. Maybe you would like to review also Kerry Slug (already nominated) or Limax maximus (not yet nominated, because distribution is not fully referenced, but maybe you could nominate and review it) (or Valvata utahensis if somebody could update distribution from included link with public domain text.) I hope I will be useful although I am not native English speaker and so I will be not able to solve some English details. Personally I think, that Kerry Slug would be better to be the first gastropod species GA article, because it should probably go much more smoothly. I would like if you consider to review these articles simultaneously. --Snek01 (talk) 15:32, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Casliber, Thanks so much for volunteering to do the review. I am another Project Gastropods person and I can help with the fixing up during the reviewing process. I just now changed "gastropod" to "gastropod species" in Snek's message for more clarity. It is certainly the case that this is our very first species article to come under GA review, so we will learn a lot from this I am sure. I am on vacation now, but I am still available for help on this process for a couple of hours probably every day, especially on parts of the article that need better prose, or more prose, or more clarity. Snek however is the one who did all the research for the article and therefore understands the species of snail better than I do. Good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 16:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

To invertzoo and Snek01 - I will also get to Kerry Slug and talk on the gastropods page for some guidelines. Thanks for getting back to me so soon, we can make this all work nicely ;) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much for agreeing to do all this, it is very helpful indeed and extremely important to Project Gastropods. We are already working hard at upgrading a number of our articles, and this type of outside reviewing is essential in working out what kind of things we need to be fixing before we go forward with many more. We do appreciate all your help, your thoughtfulness and kindness. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 15:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Greek

Thanks again. Hesperian 07:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem - gotta watch those funny rhos. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

http://www.lifescientist.com.au/article/318404/feature_blooming_controversy is worth a quick scan. I liked the bit about B. serrata being more closely related to Dryandra than it is to B. integrifolia. Hesperian 23:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, yeah. I have corresponded with Graeme :) I recall seeing a tray of Dryandra longifolia seedlings in tubes (now Banksia prolata ) which looked exactly like Banksia serrata ones. Was very impressed. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Mary I of England

• 12:26, 14 March 2008 Casliber protected Mary I of England ‎ (clearly vandalism is a recurrent issue [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

That was 18 months ago. I'd like to review this to see if semiprotection is still necessary. See talk:Mary I of England. --TS 12:16, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

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Follow through

Um [16]? MBisanz ^talk 03:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Oops. Unblocked now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Retro gaming mags

Hey Cas, what does you collection look like outside of Dragon and White Dwarf? We're looking for more obscure stuff such as Different Worlds and The Space Gamer and anything else you might have to beef up some of the articles we're trying to get to GA+. BOZ (talk) 12:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I have a couple of Different Worlds somewhere. Not much else. Bit disorganized at present. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Which ones do you have, and how hard would it be for you to get at them? :) BOZ (talk) 16:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Tricky at present +++. Will see what I can do. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:08, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you locate #20 for Against the Giants and #21 for Descent into the Depths of the Earth that would be super sweet. :) BOZ (talk) 23:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I just noted something in a 80s edition WD for the combine GDQ release. Will look. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Yep, #35 - we got that one taken care of.  :) We pretty much have anything Dragon or WD covered, it's just the other mags where we come up short. BOZ (talk) 12:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, it is only 1 (or maybe 2) Different Worlds I have, and one Fantasy Gamer somewhere....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah - when you said "a couple", I didn't know you meant literally. :) BOZ (talk) 22:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

'tis OK, but if you ever do find those let me know what issues they were and we'll see where we need them and what for. :) FG, too, those have reviews I believe. BOZ (talk) 01:28, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I have stacks of such magazines. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:35, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Cool :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Notes to self

• [17]
• [18]
• User:Seddon/State_of_the_wiki

for later. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The Historian

The above is now a GA! Next up is peer review. I'll post it and request a review from a friend and ask him to look at the plot summary in particular, but I think the article is pretty close to FA. Awadewit (talk) 20:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Congrats - great work. I was around when Hamiltonstone started discussing the plot and figured it might be a case of too many cooks....Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

RFA context

Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2009-01-07/Shell_to_Sea is a good intro. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 13:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that. It is getting on here (after 11PM) and I am pretty knackered. Will get to it tomorrow I think. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello! Just for more context on Corrib Gas, you can check out Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2009-05-06/Corrib_Gas and the associated talk page - I think they're a bit more extensive than the original Shell to Sea mediation. Thanks! Fin©™ 16:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it can be a bit of a headache trying to figure out what to read next. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:28, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Cypraea tigris

Hi Casiliber, Thanks so much for getting the tiger cowry onto the Main Page and into the Did You Knows! Well done! I would award you an honorary membership in project gastropods, but if you become a project member then you would not be able to finish reviewing our Good Article applications, so I will hold off for the time being! All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 15:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Today I made a scan of my cameo-carved tiger cowry. Snek uploaded it for me, and now it is included in the article. I hope you like it. Invertzoo (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I think, that reviewer can be anybody, who did not made significant contributions to the reviewed article. So feel free to join any project(s). --Snek01 (talk) 21:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

A new pair of eyes is always good at GA, so anyone can do it who has not contributed. Generally, members of the same wikiproject don't as most of us have alrady tinkered with an article anyway, but there is no rule against it as such. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:53, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Oversight#Users with Oversight permissions

Hello, again Calisber, this is a A Nobody issue, (a RFC was started today against A Nobody) so I felt like you would be the most qualified editor to handle this.

Can you please remove the section I explain here:

Wikipedia talk:Harassment#WP:OUTING and a new RFC

Thank you. Ikip (talk) 02:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost/2009-09-21/WikiProject report: WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons

Check it out! :) BOZ (talk) 03:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Seen it? :) BOZ (talk) 11:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, read it today. Nice one :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Editor review/Jack Merridew

fyi ;) Sincerely, Jack Merridew 09:39, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Ongoing semiprotection of Robert Gilbert (chemist)

• 02:22, 20 April 2008 Casliber protected Robert Gilbert (chemist) ‎ (ongoing vandalism from multiple IPs, perennial problem [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed])

I've looked at the history of this article and the vandalism, such as it was, does not seem to me especially heavy, though it is persistent. In any case it's nearly 18 months later, and it seems quite likely that the vandal has wandered off and found something else to do. Of course there may be oversighted revisions that I cannot see, and serious BLP issues, but the logs I can see don't give any indication of that. Do you still consider semiprotection necessary? --TS 11:12, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Long story and a private one. Essentially a grudge. As with other similar situations I feel a semi- is a much better use of resources than mucking around with rangeblocks. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I think I agree on use of resources. I won't ask for unprotection. --TS 12:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

So, how would you resolve this problem?

This is a serious question. I wasn't involved in A Nobody's RFC creation, and, had I been, it would have been different. I think of things like writing "Per nom is an unacceptable argument" over and over as annoying, but not anything to get too upset about. I would have focused on A Nobody's use of deceptive practices: misleading edit summaries, distorted descriptions of other editors' behaviours, misrepresentation of sources, and similar things. These are behaviours that shouldn't be supported by anyone. Yet, when people respond to the RFC, they respond along party lines. Effectively, we wind up with otherwise good editors defending despicable practices because they focus on the inclusionism/exclusionism divide, and not the problem. Discussing them directly with A Nobody is fruitless, as he specifically ignores anyone he disagrees with. This leads to my question: if the current RFC isn't the answer, and direct discussion doesn't work, what do you see as a productive path?—Kww(talk) 13:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I was musing on this. I will make a proposal. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do. Meanwhile, your endorsing views that more or less basically say there is absolutely no issue with A Nobody and it's everyone else that has a problem may not be very helpful. Casting this as inclusionists vs. deletionists misses the point. I'm an inclusionist, and I know it's about A Nobody's behavior. ++Lar: t/c 14:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Have a look. I wasn't the one who laid out a wall of misdoings as an opening gambit in this RfC, which really reinforced the tone in the first place. That was disappointing. Anyway, I have laid out a couple of proposals. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

"wall of misdoings" ??? As we explained, there is a 3 year pattern of behavior here. The large amount of evidence is there to show that the community has tried and tried and tried to resolve it, to no avail, he just goes back to the same things. Over and over and over. If we had went with just a few items his staunch defenders would say "not a pattern, isolated incidents". I find your input at the RfC/U interesting, but not really germane to an RfC/U since it's about changing how AfDs work overall. I also think it fails to acknowledge that A Nobody's interaction style is deficient. Is it or isn't it? Really, that's the question you need to answer. ++Lar: t/c 15:34, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Lar, the evidence you three compiled is a "unwarranted...meritless RfC". Either the misdeeds are over 15 months old, or you are complaning about A Nobody Deleting items off his talk page and arguing WP:OTHERSTUFF exists for example.

Despite repeated requests, Kww and Protonk have not provided any actual policy and guideline violations, which is required for Wikipedia:Rfc#Request_comment_on_users: "A user-conduct RfC is for discussing specific users who have violated Wikipedia policies and guidelines".

As per: Wikipedia:Rfc#Request_comment_on_users: "...unwarranted filing of meritless RfCs is an abuse of the dispute resolution process."

The true policy violations are Lar, defending Jack Merridew. You threatened me with admin action for deleting Jack comments calling A Nobody a troll, defend Jack's stalking, in which Admin Fram just gave him a final warning on the 18th,[19] How can you justify vigourously supporting such behavior Lar? Two days later you post this "unwarranted...meritless RfC"

I am concerned about how this all could have been avoided and how this all escalated, another admin, not Casilber, was the person that gave Jack the final warning, despite A Nobody for months complaining to Casilber and other mediators about Jack's behavior. Ikip (talk) 16:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Kww, your section argues issues that happened in April 2007 and September 2008. There is no new evidence of this happening over a year later. As for your other complaints, I have started to document how "unwarranted" and "meritless" they are. Ikip (talk) 16:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Ikip, I was talking to Casliber. Your wall of text is unhelpful (as well as repetitive, not to mention false on several levels, but I digress). I'd prefer an answer from Casliber to the yes/no question I asked without interference from you. Casliber: is A Nobody's interaction style deficient? ++Lar: t/c 14:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

With all due respects Lar, the RFC you created is over 7000 words long, has several misleading and false statements you refuse to correct, and involves such trivial complaints as "On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments" I don't think "unhelpful" "wall of text" get any larger than this. Ikip (talk) 18:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

You have made your views abundantly clear already. You are interfering in a conversation. ++Lar: t/c 00:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

To Lar - yes the last word-type comments are problematic and I have told him so, however I still think (a) people can choose to ignore it, and (b) it is outweighed by behaviour on the other side, such as citing OR or lack of referencing when sources exist. I also esecially resent a subsection of people claiming they are speaking for "the community" in these type of discussions (and many others), which is patently untrue. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your views. ++Lar: t/c 00:17, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Rhubarb bolete

Hi Cas, I added some refs and buffed up the text of this a bit to help ensure it meets DYK length requirements. I think the title spelling may be wrong though, I've seen obscurococcineus at Fungorum and obscurecoccineus at MykoBank, but not obscureococcineus. Further, Singer spelled it obscure-coccineus. How do your Oz fungi books spell it? Sasata (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC) (p.s. also check here)

Aha, so that's why I couldn't find it on fungorum...Bougher = obscurecoccineus, as does Fuhrer....and fungimap Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:16, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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Assistance requested with image

Hello;

I am a relatively new Wikipedian who has been adopted by A Nobody. We are editing a page that was previously deleted three years ago. The page is entitled "Immunocal" and can be accessed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LivingWell4U/Immunocal

I have asked Immunotec for permission to use a company image of Immunocal for the page, and they have given me permission. What is my next step, please? A Nobody is quite sick at the moment and indicated you may be able to help me with this. I tried reading about this, but there is so much information I don't understand, it makes my head spin.

Do I need to send some sort of legal form to the company, or is the e-mail from their lawyer sufficient? She indicated I should use the "proper trademark citations" and I have no idea what that is. Would you be so kind as to help me? I would be happy to e-mail you the file. Thank you in advance for your time and attention.

Sincerely, LivingWell4U (talk) 02:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately (as it involves a little more to'ing and fro'ing), wikipedia has become more stringent with documenting permission for work not self-created. You should check the criteria and upload at wikimedia commons. There are templates there for permission which the original copyright releaser must email to the permissions. You should be able to get a walkthrough when youj try to upload a file there. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:52, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Casliber, I will give it a try. Much appreciated, and happy to know you. LivingWell4U (talk) 15:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Request for Userification

Hello, Can you please Userify the recently deleted article deleted article to User:Virdi/CyanogenMod

Thanks. virdi (talk) 17:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for moving the article to my user space.

Wikipedia:Peer review/The Historian/archive1

The plot summary is just draining me! :) If you have any ideas, please do suggest them. Right now, everything seems to be pretty solid except for that section. Awadewit (talk) 17:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Funny, in hindsight that was/is/will be the bit that is the most awkward. Think of this as an exercise and challenge in being able to present a three-timed-sequenced timeline into a succinct and easily legible summary. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom

What I am asking is this - ArbCom review the very long bullying by admin and abuse of administrative power in order to try and dominate me against multiple policies. Moreschi's appearance only verifies what I have been saying. This has come directly to four pages of mine dating back to June of last year. It involves lengthy wiki stalking. It involves intense meat puppetry. It involves lots of edit warring. Multiple participants are admin, admin who have also threatened to block me or actually blocked me abusively.

There is no content conflict because the content does not actually matter to them. Hence why there are so many diverse pages all with the same actions. I am also not the only one to have this happen to. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:20, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

[20] This in particular should help shine some light on the major abuse of authority and positions that can only be handled by arbcom. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Casliber -- sorry to butt in on your talk page -- I agree with Ottava above that the diff he provides should help shine some light, but not exactly the way he thinks it does. Ottava, is this the eighth or the ninth time someone has told you, Folantin is a he. I have been trying to get through to you since April of this year that you need to be respectful of other editors, learn how to disagree with them without being abusive, and that truly is the heart of the matter. If you began treating people with whom you disagree respectfully, none of us would be wasting our time on this pointless drama. Thank you, Antandrus (talk) 18:32, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, lets see, a mistake in gender = end of the world. And that justifies over a year worth of hatred, venom, attacks, edit warring, destruction of pages, constant bullying, and the rest? Talk about a sense of proportion. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:38, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

"A year's worth of hatred, venom, attacks, edit warring etc. etc."...What does this refer to? --Folantin (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I clearly laid it out in my section. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

You did? I'm not seeing it. I believe we have met on three occasions this year: the Ariosto hoopla in January; your failed RFA and its aftermath in April; and this latest bust-up over the "Persian Empire" (beginning in August). That's once every four months. This is supposed to be "a year worth of hatred, venom, attacks", "constant bullying" etc. Maybe you blame me for your failure to become an admin? All I did was comment, as was my prerogative. I was only one of about 120 opposes. Your behaviour in the aftermath was particularly disgraceful. I'm not sure you'd really want to invite ArbCom to scrutinise this and other incidents. I generally try to avoid interacting with you. Rather than "destroying Wikipedia", I've been quietly editing many, many pages on Iranian history over the past few months. You recently decided to stalk me and cause a scene over a subject on which you have demonstrated shocking ignorance. "Talk about a sense of proportion" indeed. Please stop wasting everybody's time with your petty grudges. (PS: I don't really care about your mistakes over my gender. It just proves my point that you never really read or comprehend what other users are telling you). --Folantin (talk) 19:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I find it interesting that you ignore the fact that there are multiple parties and take all accusations as targetting you. That would reveal a guilty conscious about your actions and behavior to the point that you think everything is about you. The claims about "stalking", like where I forced you to edit war on multiple pages that I worked on to justify your edit war against Wizardman who you used many of your friends to get around 3RR verifies the concerning behavior in your above post. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:43, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

This is inane rambling. I'm not even going to begin to try and untangle what, if anything, it might mean. --Folantin (talk) 20:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Casliber, do you agree with Folantin that their edit warring against a sitting Arbitrator is part of my stalking them? And that they were "quietly editing" pages, even though there were major fights between them and editors of the Iranian Wikiproject? I can provide many others that can testify to the fighting that happened and the appearance of Dbachmann and Akhilleus to back them up against these other editors. As I said, they don't act this way to just me. When they challenge a sitting Arb and edit war against them like that, it is a clear sign that they lost all sense of decorum and proportion, as they fear no censure or end of their behavior. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you understand the purpose of ArbCom and the role of arbitrators. They don't decide on content. An arbitrator editing content on an average Wikipedia page has no more privileges than a normal user. The arbitrator (Wizardman?) you claim I "challenged" would have to recuse in this case anyway. I have been involved in no "edit warring". The conversation on Talk:Persian Empire was perfectly civilised until you appeared and immediately violated WP:TALK. I'm not aware of any "major fights" between myself and the Iranian Wikiproject. This is just another random smear you have pulled out of thin air. --Folantin (talk) 19:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Mass edit warring and having people to proxy you so you don't go over three reverts and having people to boost up your "side" in a dispute and use them to threaten others with admin behavior is not a content dispute. It is a violation of multiple policies. The fact that you did these actions at pages of very diverse content areas shows that it has nothing to do with content. You have no respect for consensus, you edit war, and you bully others who have a valid interest in pages in order to promote your own "conquering" of the pages as if this was some kind of game. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

And you don't have any evidence for this. All my content is reliably sourced. You have a petty grudge against me because of your failed RFA. End of story. --Folantin (talk) 20:17, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Ummm...okay. I have been occupied for a bit of time, so it will take some time to get up to speed. And I have not partaken of caffeine on this early sunday morn as of yet. ("sheeeee-it" as Clay Davis would say) (sound of kettle boiling) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:30, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I think I'm done here anyway. --Folantin (talk) 20:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

We-ell, half your luck, I am now stuck with trying to wade through this and make some wise and insightful comment or course of action...Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't envy you. My advice is to ignore it. It's just paranoid ramblings.--Folantin (talk) 21:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

It's just gone 7 am and I think I'll be fetching my second cup of coffee now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:06, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's just gone 10 pm here so I'm signing off. Enough destroying Wikipedia for me for today. I'll leave that task in the capable hands of my cabal. Cheers. --Folantin (talk) 21:14, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Red-capped Parrot

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DYK nomination of Tamarix aphylla

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Psilocybin

Hey Cas, I suddenly have an urge to take this to FA level (no, I didn't eat any shrooms... recently). Interested in collaborating? High-importance fungal product with psychiatric applications, topped off with substantial page views... what's not to like? No problem if your plate's too full already. Sasata (talk) 19:55, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. Yes, I'll try and help out :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Update

Do you remember this thread that you started? Anyway, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WillOakland/Archive for the current situation. Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 13:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

What do you make of this?

What do you make of this? Any idea? :) BOZ (talk) 13:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I guess you mean Don's reference to Greenlands? I vaguely recall him talking about this as an early campaign he DMed (or played in?) in hte 1970s which he referred to a few times in early issues. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, OK! I figured it was a British thing, but maybe it's just his version of Gygax's "Greyhawk" or Greenwood's "Forgotten Realms". :) By the way, looks like D&D's about to get another FA - I'll let you figure out which article, but I'll give you a hint nevermore. :) BOZ (talk) 02:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Ping

I've sent you an email on behalf of one of the mailing lists, please confirm when you've received it. Thanks. Risker (talk) 01:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Got it and replied. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:58, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Étienne Soulange-Bodin

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DYK nomination of Cypraea tigris

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DYK for Yellow-billed Amazon

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Thanks

I appreciate your help in the peer review of Badnjak, thank you :) I have nominated the article. VVVladimir (talk) 12:57, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Casliber, I noticed you were online five minutes ago. Are you still online? Thanks. Acalamari 20:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

yes. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:03, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. An E-mail has been sent. It's important. Acalamari 21:05, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Acalamari 21:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Another E-mail. Same again. Acalamari 21:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with BLPs!

		The BLP Barnstar
		Your hard work on BLPs in general, and at User:Lar/Liberal Semi specifically, is much appreciated. That page has now been sunsetted (and I hope never to need to bring it back) but the work you did there (whether by bringing articles forward, reviewing them, or protecting them... or even by questioning or criticizing the process!) was of great help to the project. See you in the trenches! ++Lar: t/c 01:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy Labor Day!

Dear colleague, I just want to wish you a happy, hopefully, extended holiday weekend and nice end to summer! Your friend, --A Nobody^{My talk} 02:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Invincibles

Do you think some guy might try to be adventurous and close as a delete or merge (destruction of info)?? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

I think it'd be extreme to close as delete given the opinions raised thus far. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:22, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

PS: Might depend who closes it I suspect (although of course it shouldn't but..) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

30-10 with cogent arguments on each side? Anyone who closes that as delete/merge isn't doing their job, which is to give expression to consensus rather than their own personal opinion. This has got to be closed as either keep or no consensus. Hesperian 05:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Please look

Because Roger Davis is involved, I felt I needed to go to your level of bureaucracy in Wikipedia in looking at this--58.168.108.109 (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Magnolia x wieseneri

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Gawd

Geography not your forte and you place a message like that on the Indonesian noticeboard? Hmm - the Indonesia project is not very good on geography either  :) - suspect that leaving messages like that might not get much of a response - but we always live in hope. Pls dont reply (if this repliable) on my talk page - gmail is the only place - but even then might be off again now for about 2 weeks or so SatuSuro 18:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

The Beatles discography

Hi, Casliber. Can you check this out, please. Someone is vandalising this article, where it should be kept intact. Ex. This article is to include the entire discography of The Beatles, but someone keeps "shortening" it. I undid his edits once, and they undid mine. So, now I'm here. Please help me. Thanks. Best, --Discographer (talk) 19:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

A message to the Arbitration Committee

This message is being sent to all non-recused arbitrators.

I have sent a message to the Arbitration Committee at the amendment page, that mentions what I feel that I need to say to ArbCom before the ban takes effect.

The message is here.

Thank you. Mythdon (talk • contribs) 22:12, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

09/09/09

Happy Beatles Day, Casliber! Best, --Discographer (talk) 23:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. A Day in the Life....Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah ! ! ! --Discographer (talk) 23:42, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

It's all Greek to me

Cas, when you have a bit of spare time (rare, I know), would you mind checking over the Greek derivations on these Wikisource pages? [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] There's maybe 30 terms to check in total, most of which I think won't need correcting. Hesperian 14:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Looked at first one - see its talk page. Crap, it's late here and I am getting bleary-eyed....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (sound of head hitting keyboard) Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Rhodotus

Hi Cas, am thinking the above will be my next FAC attempt. Would you be able to do me a favor and check if R. palmatus occurs in Australia? Thanks kindly, Sasata (talk) 19:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

(p.s. Am very tempted to review the C. atramentarius GAN (naturally), but am also tempted to expand it somewhat... I have a lot of sources here, and am confident there's more than enough info available for it to be FA someday; I also want to avoid potential reviewer/contributor COI, and don't want to mess up the stability criterion if someone else reviews. Thoughts?)

Go for it and expand it - someone else will review it eventually, so if you have stuff to add which makes it a better article that would be terrific. Will get back in a minute on the other. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Spuds

Cas, thanks for msg. I am delighted! you are going to take on thoes tasty feckers. Here is a nice tune to keep you going. I think we are about the same age, so I hope you will get all the refs. From the people who burned a million quid. As a side note[30]. Ceoil (talk) 10:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Funnily enough, this nice singsong by the KLF reminds me of Warsaw, as I got a cheap tape of the white room from a tape stand in a market there for about 40p in 1991, and then listened to it rather alot while I was in Poland :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:11, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

The music might be dated by now, but Bill Drummond was a clever boy. Seeing the KLF on TOTP at 16 moved me from punk to techno. From 28 lace doc martines to 28 inch flares. Um. Ceoil (talk) 16:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

You were 16 then? Heh, I am about 8 years older than you then, m'boy.... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Naming Conventions. RFC: Removal of exceptions to "use common names" passage.

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Flaming Joel-wiki

Hi Casliber. I'm wondering, given all the fuss over User:Jack Merridew/Blood and Roses, if your User:Casliber/Flaming Joel-wiki shouldn't have a fair-use rationale as well. (And if that other page ended up deleted, I presume the same course of action would have to be applied to this one.) Note that I personally can't stand the fuss, but I like to see principles applied equally to all editors, and you after are an exemplary wikipedian, in both the usual and more literal sense of that word! Thanks, Outriggr (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Short answer - yes. I think I have an idea...Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

PS: How's that then? Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Perfect! Crisis averted! Outriggr (talk) 00:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cypraea tigris

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Judea and Samaria

Hi Casliber, if you have time, would you mind commenting here? SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 19:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Special edition triple crown question

Hi- I'm assuming that you have a hand in the Durova's Triple crown, based on the edit history of the page. Anyhow, I was wondering if you also had a hand in the special edition crowns because Durova looks to have her hands full with numerous other things.

Here are discussions (one and two) about a special editiion triple crown for the WikiProject Video games. If this is something you don't handle or are too busy to handle, I more than understand. Thank you for your time. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC))

Sounds fun. I should have some time free in a few hours. I ducked on now to make a statement quickly. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:21, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

The tricky issue is finding free images or navigating fair use policy - eg screenshots etc. I am not great on policy and will ask someone more clued in. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to do this. In regard to images, this free game controller image is frequently used for the Video games project. There are more video game-related icons on Commons as well as a category for video games in general. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC))

Nearly my bedtime here, but tomorrow I'll take a look. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Update: Just browsing through old posts. I have an idea for this one now, just need some time...Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

That's cool. Thanks for the update.

And in addition to the editors listed here, PresN recently become a triple crown winner. His articles (DYK: Music of the Katamari Damacy series, GA: Music of the Final Fantasy series, and FC: List of Final Fantasy compilation albums) are music articles related to video game series. Please include him along with the others. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC))