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Stesmo (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest (COI)

If this account is associated with RAMMP Hospitality Brands Inc. or Mr. Mike's restaurants, this applies to you:

Hello, BlueCrayon14. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Mr. Mike's (restaurant) , you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible.

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Please familiarize yourself with relevant content policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Stesmo (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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Reverts on Mr. Mike's (restaurant)

BlueCrayon14, you mentioned this (when reverting my revert of your promotional, potentially COI edits): "I am simply updating the information for this page with current information. I dont understand how I am supposed to get this page updated if you undo my work)". Please note: if you have a Conflict of Interest, you should not be editing the Mr. Mike's (restaurant) page. Even without COI, your edits are Promotional and contain Peacock language, making this more like a brochure for the company than an encyclopedia entry. Instead of reverting the changes, please take the discussion to Talk:Mr._Mike's_(restaurant). Thanks! Stesmo (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Mike's Talk Page Conversation

Hope you don't mind. I've copied this from the Mr. Mike's Talk page in case you would rather continue the conversation here with general Wikipedia questions. By all means, feel free to continue the conversation back there, here or at my talk page. Stesmo (talk)

Stesmo. I understand the COI policy. What I am not clear on is how do I get the history updated about ownership and what the restaurant is today? Can I ask someone else to research it and post it themselves? As for verification, are newspaper articles and other websites (other than Mr. Mikes) enough proof for verification? I have viewed many other restaurant chains on Wikipedia and found some to be blatant advertising yet still up on Wikipedia (ie: Harvey's). I felt my edits were low-key and sticking to the facts. Sorry, I am very new to Wikipedia and the rules and policies are numerous and slightly overwhelming. Any help you could offer, I would appreciate it. Thanks. BlueCrayon14BlueCrayon14 (talk) 17:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, BlueCrayon14! Thanks for taking this to the Talk page! And, welcome to Wikipedia. I agree, the policies here are numerous and absolutely overwhelming sometimes.

From the page Am I allowed to edit articles about myself or my organization?: "However, if you feel that there is material within an existing article which is incorrect, or not neutral in its tone, please point this out on the article's talk page. Likewise, if you have content which you think should be added, please discuss this on the talk page." And, that place is here, so we're off to a good start.

Regarding Sources, I'd recommend taking a look at Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources as a good place to start. Press Releases (or re-printed press releases), advertisements (or paid-placement articles), and company websites aren't usually great sources for Verifiability for most cases. Though a company website may be adequate for basic, uncontroversial facts (headquarters location, CEO name and other material unlikely to be challenged).

When you see other articles where there is blatant advertising and you don't have COI, you can edit it! You can remove the promotional language, tag the article with an advert tag if the job is just too big and/or start a discussion in the Talk page for that article. If you have a Conflict of Interest (COI), say it's a competitor of yours, you should stick to just starting the discussion on the Talk page and asking a non-involved editor to pitch in.

I'm happy to talk more about Wikipedia, but perhaps we can move questions that aren't directly about Mr. Mike's to your talk page or my talk page. Stesmo (talk) 19:10, 26 August 2014 (UTC)