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2017–18 Heart of Midlothian F.C. season

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Scottish contracts

Not a clue I'm afraid! GiantSnowman 19:34, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Season overview

I did not find that discussion, will look for it tomorrow. We did agree at some point to remove it... pretty sure. Kante4 (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I have no opinion on the matter either way. My personal opinion is its overkill, but they are sourceable so the argument in that discussion didnt back It up.Blethering Scot 20:05, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
So, you kind of agree about the removal? I could have cited WP:NOTSTATS or WP:LISTCRUFT aswell. Kante4 (talk) 04:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Here you go. Removed them... Kante4 (talk) 15:01, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
No bother.Blethering Scot 20:52, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Hmmm... Removing takes too much time i guess. Tag then. Kante4 (talk) 18:31, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
The result summary can stay as far as i know. Kante4 (talk) 18:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
It's different than results overview. ;) Kante4 (talk) 10:06, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Are we talking about results by round? If not then all the other tables are exactly the same, unsourced and duplication of content already in article. Definite failure of policy in my opinion. Blethering Scot 10:22, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, results by round and the one with home and away. Those were, i never saw it, never in doubt. Home/Away overview is nice to have. Kante4 (talk) 10:47, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Results by round I think is valid as not covered by any other template hence I've made no attempt to remove. Home and Away I am yet to find one that is properly & directlly sourced rather than using many sources defining original research. Its replication of data available In article as well.Blethering Scot 20:39, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on, just so you know. Kante4 (talk) 12:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion says otherwise at Footy. Simple as that. Kante4 (talk) 08:37, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Simple as that does not meet core verifiability or rules against original research. WP:Footy cannot circumvent core policies Kante.Blethering Scot 18:07, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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Seasons

Are we going to get over this spit, feels like a flame war from a forum, take your points on board but you need to stop being so pedantic about it, instead of removing why not tag them instead, that would be much more productive! Anyway the offer stands to squash this childishness, we both edit wiki for fun as a hobby, this crap just make its a pride thing instead lol!

"League results summary: source does not verify all elements and what it does verify is included in article already as a league table" like this is more productive, I am fine with that! Much better, now let me help out on other articles together, I already prepared some historical hearts kits etc for you to add, I am working on the other kits also for other clubs!
Oh and I was not being fake with what I said, it is a subject quite close to me, really if you don't want to squash it then all the best Kyndigs (talk) 12:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

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Apologies

Hi BletheringScot. Apologies for posting on the article talk page then posting here. I saw you were active, but didn't know if you would read the article talk page, so posted here instead. Is it possible to talk about your latest edits on the article talk page? Celticbhoy97 (talk) 18:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Athletic Bilbao seasons

Hi, I would like to have some words about your recent changes in 2015–16 and 2016–17 season articles.
Firstly, I hope you can consider restoring their 'Overall' and 'Overview' sections. 'Overall' is just a summary of obvious and easily verifiable information, it cannot be considered a WP:OR, and it helps readers to comprehend club's performance in that season as a whole. 'Overview' is no more than a simple WP:CALC based on verified and obvious information as well, those statistics are also easy to read, I think it is not a WP:NOTSTATS case because they do not reduce article's readability.
Secondly, about 'Player statistics' sections, I admit that some of their information may be considered WP:OR, but others have good sources (sorry for not providing them sooner). LaLiga and UEFA competitions have such statistics (minutes played, assists, etc.) for all players, so I would like to remove WP:OR and WP:SOURCE templates after supplementing those sections. Centaur271188 (talk) 10:23, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

There is a discussion about it here. Kante4 (talk) 10:36, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
@Kante4: Thanks for that notice. I talk directly to Blethering Scot because I think this issue is about me and him only. Centaur271188 (talk) 10:57, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I brought it to the project because he removed that from many articles and the community disagrees with that. Kante4 (talk) 11:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
The project can disagree all it likes, but unless they are sourced then core policies override them every time. Blethering Scot 11:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
The issue with the asssists, which the project don't disagree on is that they are rarely considered the same across all competitions and mostly but not in this case unsourced. The project therefore decided assists should not be included. Unlike verification this is within there realm of acceptability. Blethering Scot 12:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
If you remove the assists from the table, then you can remove all templates. The only option really is to tag, because removing assist from every page would be a nightmare. Also yeah the sourcing is much better than it was. Blethering Scot 12:04, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I just dont think you are correct with your policies. Need to check it tomorrow... So, you remove it from every article (3000 ones)? I dont think that needs a source as said above as it is just an overview. Kante4 (talk) 12:39, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, I will remove assists information from those tables. About 'Overall' and 'Overview' sections, I will wait a little bit more. Centaur271188 (talk) 15:14, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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