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Меня зовут Виктор, и я рассказчик с Wikimedia Foundation, некоммерческая организация, которая поддерживает Википедию. Я хроник вдохновляющих историй сообщества Википедии по всему миру, в том числе и читателей, редакторов и доноров. Истории совершенно необходимы для любой некоммерческой органицации, чтобы убедить людей поддержывать наш проект, и мы знаем, что у людей, которые строют и используют Википедии есть много, что рассказать!

Я ищу вдохновляющие страницы пользователей, и интересных историй о том, как Википедия влияют на жизнь людей. Я задавал вопросы вроде "Как Википедия изменила Вашу жизнь?", "Какая самая интересная история у Вас есть о Википедии?" и "Википедия ли когда-нибудь Вас удивило?"

В прошлом году мы использовали ежегодный сбор средств как способ показать миру, кто на самом деле пишет Википедия. Мы показывали редакторов из Бразилии, Украины, Аргентины, Саудовской Аравии, Кении, Индии, США и Англии. Этот метод имел огромный успех, в результате чего у нас была наиболее финансово успешная кампании по сбору средств в историе организации. Кроме того, мы остались верны духу Википедии, просвещение общественности, что это бесплатно ТОП-5 Сайт создан добровольцами, как Ви и я.

В этом году мы хотим выделить еще редакторов Википедии на русском языке, так что я нахожусь в процессе планирования поездки в Россию и интервью с редакторами.

Если Википедия положительно повлеяла на Вас или на кого-то из Ваших знакомых, или у Вас есть что-то интересное сказать о Википедии, я бы очень хотел услышать об этом!

Пожалуйста, дайте мне знать, если Ви бы хотели участвовать в проекте Истории Википедии, или если вы знаете кого-то еще, с кем я должен поговорить.

Конечно, если у Вас есть какие-либо вопросы или сомнения, пожалуйста, обращайтесь! Я отвечу, как только смогу. Извините за плохой перевод этого письма, я использую Google-перевод. Я надеюсь, что заставляет вас смеяться :)

Спасибо за Ваше время,

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My name is Victor and I'm a storyteller with the Wikimedia Foundation, the non-profit organization that supports Wikipedia. I'm chronicling the inspiring stories of the Wikipedia community around the world, including those from readers, editors, and donors. Stories are absolutely essential for any non-profit to persuade people to support the cause, and we know the vast network of people who make and use Wikipedia have so much to share.

I'm scouring user pages looking for inspiring, motivating and interesting stories of how Wikipedia has affected the lives of people. I'm asking questions like "How has Wikipedia changed your life?", "What's the most interesting story you have about Wikipedia?" and "Has Wikipedia ever surprised you?"

Last year, we used the annual fundraiser as a way to show the world who it is who actually writes Wikipedia. We featured editors from Brazil, Ukraine, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, India, United States and England. This campaign was a huge success, resulting in the most financially successful fundraising campaign ever. It was also a campaign that stayed true to the spirit of Wikipedia, educating the public that this free top-5 website is created by volunteers like you and I.

This year we want to highlight more Russian-language Wikipedia editors, so I am in the process of planning a trip to Russia to interview editors.

If you or someone you know (or have heard about) has been positively affected by Wikipedia, or have something interesting to say about Wikipedia I'd very much like to hear about it!

Please let me know if you're inclined to take part in the Wikipedia Stories Project, or if you know someone else with whom I should speak.

Of course, if you have any questions or concerns, please ask! I will answer as soon as I can. I apologize for any poor translation of this letter, I am using Google-translate. I hope it makes you laugh :)

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The Sherman tanks

Hello Ain92, welcome to WP. There is no "right" or "wrong" on WP. There are the policies, which are very general, and the decisions of the administrators, which may or may not be based on the policies. There are also the designs and intents of the editors. Your suggestion falls into the latter category, not the first two.

You request that I go through my changes and determine which are "wrongly" made and revert the ones that are. This is an improper and contentious request. What YOU should have done is look at them yourself and move the pictures YOU thought were in the wrong place. Then if those changes contradicted some design of mine I would request a discussion. However, I am taking into consideration that you are a new editor, relatively speaking. I will not be drawn into contention, but here is what I will do, one-time action.

I seem to have contradicted a fundamental design of yours. Thank you for pointing that out. If you have been working on the tank pictures and you have a categorization scheme worked out I have no intent to contravene it. I was simply trying to help deal with a large number of tank pictures apparently not arranged in a meaningful order. I can't do as YOU request simply because I do not know your basis for categorization. That is neither right nor wrong. However, I am not primarily interested in tanks. So, I am not interested in working with you to find out your scheme. I accept it on good faith. I am sure it must be meaningful and orderly or you would not be concerned about it. What I can do is put all the pictures in question back where I found them and let YOU decide what to do with them. That is about 30 seconds of work. For you to dispose of them can't be many seconds more.

Your approach seems to suggest you may not be familiar with the quick way to move pics around. I find cat-a-lot to be a safe and useful tool. You can acquire this gadget by altering your preferences. It is easily learned and sure saves a lot of time. It does not require edits of individual pictures. Of course I do not wish to tell you what to do. The fact that you ask me to revert these changes indicates you may think it is a big task. If I am wrong, just ignore it. If I am right, I do recommend cat-a-lot. Meow.

I got one more suggestion. The tone of your communication is somewhat provocative. You may have got that approach by looking back in my former discussions, which is even more provocative. That is entirely the wrong tone to take on WP. This is an encyclopedia, not a witch-hunt. So, save yourself a lot time spent on contention at WP and find a different approach along the lines I suggested above.

This is my last communication to you, so there is not need to reply, unless you may have any questions on how to install or use cat-a-lot. Good luck on WP, and I dare say, if you are entirely candid, sooner or later you will have to decide what is more important, contending with other people or trying to do some useful work. I probably should tip you off that most of the contenders are hypocrites who are doing it for reasons other than what they say: they are members of an agency, advertisers of products, ideologues, persons with a religious committment, nationalists of a specific brand, or the like. Moreover, their legions extend well into the administrators. So, if things do not always go as you plan, don't be too disappointed. WP can only take things so far. You may have a free hand with the tanks as far as I am concerned. Don't push it. Good luck.Branigan 19:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, I wanted to cover this topic fully as it is a two-exchange discussion. Oh, I just got your latest message, so it is a four-exchange discussion. Let me reiterate, I am not interested in working on tanks. Moreover, any of those pictures can be moved by you in a matter of seconds. I accept all your moves in good faith. Go to town, dispose of all the tank pictures as you see fit. If you are looking for my permission, well, you have it. For me, the hardest part of Commons is formulating the categories. If you already know those, you can make any number of moves as I say in seconds. Ciao. I approve of all your actions in advance. Good work, fine job. Any consistent plan is a fine job on WP. Bye now.Branigan 19:48, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

• It's not very easy for me to comprehend such a large post, so as we say in Russian, "утро вечера мудренее", that could be translated to English as an hour in the morning is worth two in the evening. So I'll answer you tomorrow. Ain92 (talk) 20:02, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't need a reply. I can't really add anything and the topic has been covered. If you want a personal conversation contact me by email. Otherwise, we're done.Branigan

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Anti-Magnitsky law

Hi. Federal law of Russian Federation no. 232-FZ of 2012-12-28 is incorrect; Federal law of Russian Federation no. 272-FZ of 2012-12-28 is correct; check at [2]. Please, rename to ...272... `a5b (talk) 18:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

• Hi. Sorry, it's a misprint, of course. Why didn't you fix it yourself? Ain92 (talk) 18:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Done. I could not find button "Rename" on top panel. `a5b (talk) 19:21, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

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Re: this edit, would you mind adding some citations for these changes? I'd really prefer the article not degenerate back to its former poorly sourced state. — Huntster (t @ c) 19:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• Are Russian-language sources welcome? Ain92 (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Sure! Any language source can be used, so long as it is verifiable. English is always preferred, but better to have a citation in another language than have no citation at all. — Huntster (t @ c) 20:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for the edit to the sans-serif article. Can you tell me how you know that this image is an original 11th century carving? That's my main concern, that it could be a replica or reconstruction. I've looked at the link you put in the edit summary but all it shows is a snippet of the book: it's not possible to see the original text. Blythwood (talk) 23:08, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• Hello, the snippet says, in French, that the slab (note how different its marble is in appearance from the surrounding limestone) was taken from another building (which was a common practice in the Middle Ages, that's how a half of the Colosseum was dismantled) and inserted into the wall of the cathedral (current building consecrated in 1225) during its erection (which started back in 1109, such a construction time is also typical for the epoch). For the context of the place cf. Google Street View. How would one insert this block into the finished building at 3-meter height and why? Ain92 (talk) 11:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

  Ain92, brilliant, thanks for the reply. This is what I was hoping to hear. Can you cite that book in the article and copy out the quote into the quote box? Or if you don't know how type it here and I'll put it in. Sorry, I can only see snippets of the text on Google Books myself. Blythwood (talk) 22:20, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

  • I very much doubt that quoting a passage in French about a medieval Italian building only mentioning the slab in passing would be relevant for an article covering a modern typographic issue, but I added a formatted reference there. Ain92 (talk) 13:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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• @Wotheina: I can't agree that "google books are quite unstable and can vanish at any moment" (more of a problem for other websites) but I added cite journal/cite book/cite web templates where it was relatively easy. With tiny preview pieces it's quite complicated though, so I left two GB links in the present condition. Ain92 (talk) 13:25, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your consideration. I agree that other websites are generally more unstable, but just few days ago I was shocked to find that google books stopped preview for an old book. p.s. I did some edits to Edison screw.--Wotheina (talk) 07:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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• Hello, @Loafiewa: shotguns are not exactly my primary field of interests, do you think you could write about the technological innovations and commonality with 11-48 in your own words? This source has quite a lot of information on this: https://www.fieldandstream.com/story/guns/history-of-the-remington-870. Ain92 (talk) 20:54, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

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Krupp Gun

The source you quote makes no mention of Broadswell working for Gatling. Nor does it state that Krupp made muzzle loaders until they used the ring. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 11:48, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• For the first fact there're plenty of sources in English, starting from the [3] (I could find more in GB if needed). For the second one, it's well known that the first adopted Krupp RBL was the de:6-Pfünder-Feldkanone C/61 produced since 1860 (when the Broadwell ring wasn't even invented yet). The breech-lock used in it was the Wahrendorff piston, described at de:Kolbenverschluss and at [4]. Instead of a ring, a papier-mache cup was used, and that is described in my source as well. Experimental Krupp RBLs (plagued by obturation problems) date even into the 1850s (including ones with sliding wedge/block breeches, see [5]). Ain92 (talk) 12:18, 24 July 2022 (UTC) P.S. As a side note, it was not just Krupp, in the mid-19th century Germans were as notorious for stealing copying foreign inventions without a license as the Chinese were a couple of decades ago, they in fact even had an "anti-patent movement" (as ridiculous as it sounds today) [6]!

If there are plenty of sources, it woud help if you quoted one in the article. Also "It is well known" is not a valid source. You are obviously quite knowledgable on the subject, it would be advantageous to expand the section on the development, remembering to include relevant sources and avoid contentious language like "stolen". PS, I appreciate your comments about disregarding patents when it suited in 19th century Germany! regards Murgatroyd49 (talk) 12:38, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

• I have rewritten the article a bit, fixed some factual mistakes and added some sources, but the article is sadly in such a poor shape in general (in fact, the "Krupp gun" is not a family of designs but just a brand: there's not more common between designs from different decades than e.g. between BMW cars; and the article should reflect that) that the amount of work to make it good is too formidable for me. =( As for disregarding patents, it's such an obvious thing to do when you are a rapidly industrializing country with cheap labor and no influential large industrial companies with their own R&D! The result is however that you get a reputation for cheap and low-quality goods ("billig und schlecht" is how Werner von Siemens put it in 1870s, see de:Geschichte des Patentrechts#Das deutsche Patentgesetz von 1877) while you are catching-up, but that's only for a few decades. Japan and East Asian Tigers did the same amid 20th century, and now Japanese, South Korean and Taiwanese goods are as respectable as the German ones. Ain92 (talk) 13:44, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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  Thanks for your understanding. DanCherek (talk) 16:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

clarify vs. citation needed

Hi, in your edit to Ayahuasca, you added template:clarify, but your edit summary says req src. Clarify is used when wording is unclear; template:citation needed is used when requesting a source for the statement. Which did you mean? Schazjmd (talk) 16:11, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

• In this case it's actually both, but I have never seen a combination of templates anywhere. If one finds a source, it's most likely to say at least a decade if not a year, you know. Ain92 (talk) 20:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Citation formatting

Please fill out refs properly rather than leaving Wikipedia:Bare URLs on the page. GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:06, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

• Filling out refs manually often takes more time than all the rest of the edit, so TBH when it's impossible to fill it automatically I sometimes skip this part. In my experience, almost all the problems of link rot in Wikipedia are solved by referring to Web Archive (I don't remember the last time when I wasn't able to find an archive copy of a dead link). Anyway, in this case after your reprimand I took the effort to fill out proper references with cite book. Ain92 (talk) 21:34, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
  • @GraemeLeggett: I am now actively working to fix bare URLs on Google Books where I see them. Ain92 (talk) 10:19, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

June 2023

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Erdős–Bacon number, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 13:04, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I haven't finished my editing! I was in the process of finding out how to properly cite Oracle Bacon, found it out but now got an edit conflict with you. =D Ain92 (talk) 13:06, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Stop adding Erdos-Bacon number to articles without a reliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Assume good faith and read carefully before you revert. I reverted your reverts because Erdős Bacon Sabbath Project is a reliable source per Talk:Erdős–Bacon number, and it doesn't matter whether the Web Archive copy of the website itself is linked or the GitHub project which is linked at the website, it's exactly the same data. Ain92 (talk) 15:54, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

"Assume good faith" is not a suicide pact. If you make a poorly sourced edit, anyone can remove it, and that's not a violation of WP:AGF. The source has been challenged. Get consensus to use it. Sundayclose (talk) 15:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

This essay is about obviously harmful, bad-faith edits, are you accusing me in ones?! There is a consensus that Erdős Bacon Sabbath Project is reliable, and I see no one challenging it, so I don't understand what you are talking about. Ain92 (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Link the consensus that EBS is reliable. I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm pointing out your improperly sourced edits. And I have no idea what "are you accusing me in ones" means. Sundayclose (talk) 16:03, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Erdős–Bacon number

On Kristen Stewart and Natalie Portman, you cited a poor source (i.e., rrrjewishtrivia.com) that don't even mention the project that you attached the Erdős–Bacon number, let alone the numbers' relations to those projects. This is a violation of the WP:BLP policy. Please refrain from doing this in other articles unless you can find a reliable source that explicitly highlights the number as uniquely meaningful (and verifies the connection between the number and a specific project). Thank you. KyleJoan^talk 02:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

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