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Hi, I noticed your edit and also checked Yugoslavia_at_the_Olympics#Medals_by_summer_sport, but I can't seem to find Yugoslavia's 5th silver medal. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
4 Men - 1 Women 1996 was not Serbian was Yugoslavia[[1]] [[2]]
- Oh yes, there seems to be a small confusion here because Serbia and Montenegro at the Olympics claim that medal to be theirs. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:02, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Serbia and Montenegro existed only in the 2004 Olympics, this edition shown is notoriously with error
In 1996 and 2000 it was still Yugoslavia
- Only fixing medal table makes the article worse, bacause Basketball_at_the_Summer_Olympics#Participating_nations still gives the medal to Serbia. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
1996 Correct Yugoslavia [[3]]
2000 Correct Yugoslavia [[4]]
- Could you give your thoughts also at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Olympics#Serbia_and_Montenegro_vs_Yugoslavia. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes, That is the event, the break-up of Yugoslavia occurred in 1992, but part that encompassed Serbia continued to be called Yugoslavia. From all of Yugoslavia up until 2002, only Serbia and Montenegro remained, which in 2003 founded the State of Serbia and Montenegro. On May 21, 2006, a plebiscite in which 55.5% of Montenegrins expressed the desire for separation. On June 3, 2006, Montenegro declared itself independent, and thus Yugoslavia was formally extinguished. Two days after Montenegro's independence, Serbia also declared. end of the name Yugoslavia only in 2003
Yugoslavia
Mate i dont have time to discuss again about this. This was explained milion times. SFR Yugoslavia and FR Yugoslavia are two totally different countries. SFRY (six republics) and FRY (two republics). FR Yugoslavia later just changed name to Serbia and Montenegro. FRY and Serbia and Montenegro are one same team. When Montenegro declared independence in 2006 they started to play from FIBA B Division as a new national team, and Serbia retained the place of the former Basketball Federation of Serbia and Montenegro as a FIBA member (read here). So thats why Serbia played at the Eurobasket 2007, and Montenegro as a new team had to start from FIBA B Division. And this is just html code table and that could not be more reliable then statement written by human.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:12, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
FIBA, the COI, the ONU, and the Serbian government itself say that Yugoslavia only ceased to exist in 2003, you try to give Yugoslavia medals to Serbia for being a Serbian nationalist, who is not content with Serbia having not yet won gold medals, on a day it may happen, but like it or not like it has not happened yet.
You do not respect even the wikipedia forum on the subject matter, so Serbian nationalist that it is
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Im not nationalist, its just nonsense that medals from 1995 till 2002 (medals taken by Serbian players) belongs to Croats, Slovenians or others countries from SFRY. Serbia is direct successor of Serbia and Montenegro team (FR Yugoslavia), and there is a source from FIBA about that. And only nationalist here is you, cause you want to steal medals from Serbia. And please if you dont know the difference between FR Yugoslavia and SFR Yugoslavia then dont edit articles about that.--Bozalegenda (talk) 13:40, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- Being Estonian, I know the situation - many Estonians who competed under Soviet flag, will have to live with the knowing that their medals belong to Soviet Union, not Estonia. And it would be unimaginable to declare them Estonian, just because their nation is Estonian. The same thing is with naturalizing an athlete, doesn't matter the nation, but the flag they represent. Even though there was only 2 members in Yugoslavia, they were still representing the same flag and they had the same code YUG. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:12, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Pelmeen10: This situation is not the same as Estonia and Soviet Union. SFR Yugoslavia and FR Yugoslavia were two different countries, with different names, flags and everything was different. When FR Yugoslavia won the Eurobasket 1997 they played against Croatia, and now someone wants to add that gold medal to Croats and other countries from SFRY?? that's nonsense. All countries from ex Yugoslavia have their own national teams from 1992 and they have nothing with medals from FR Yugoslavia.--Bozalegenda (talk) 15:25, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
The whole world does not think so, COI and International Federations, the world does not think that what was won by Yugoslavia has to be only Serbia, but they think that's the Serb ultra-nationalists.
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Mate you are making a fool of yourself. Just explain me what Croats and other countries from SFR Yugoslavia have with FR Yugoslavia medals when they all played against FR Yugoslavia?--Bozalegenda (talk) 16:54, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- The country competing was Yugoslavia, not Serbia&Montenegro. Any medals "Olympic Athletes from Russia" will win, won't go under Russian statistics. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 17:23, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Pelmeen10: The country that was competing in 90s and early 2000s was FR Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro). That country has nothing with an old SFR Yugoslavia (six republics- Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Monenegro, Slovenia). In FR Yugoslavia we had new flag, new passports, everything was new. In 2003 FR Yugoslavia just changed their name to Serbia and Montenegro. As I already mentioned all other countries from ex Yugoslavia have their own national teams from 1992 and they have nothing with medals from FR Yugoslavia.--Bozalegenda (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
this version is official
FIBA ARCHIVE [[5]]
so it was well locked to prevent some Serbs from disrespecting the other Slav peoples
Because what has come from Yugoslavia will never be only from Serbia
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