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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:16, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Paano Ang Puso Ko?

Created by 001Jrm (talk). Self nominated at 06:35, 6 June 2014 (UTC).

  • I do not see any plagiarism, copyright infringement, or close paraphrasing. The image follow fair use guidelines. Article was created on time. However, the article is only 1335 characters, and 1500 needed to go on the Main Page. Lists such as cast listings and awards do not count toward the character count. Also, the only sources I see here are IMDB and the movie itself. The movie is a reliable primary source about itself. IMBD I know is controversial - can someone with more experience help me out here on when IMDB is acceptable and when it is not?
This aside, the article needs coverage from reliable sources independent from the subject - what makes this movie notable? Is there any critical analysis of it? What was the commercial reception? As it stands, this article needs a LOT of work. It would be nice to see it brought up to standard as we need a lot more non-Western oriented topics.--¿3family6 contribs 02:23, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the review! I didn't know that new pages have to have at least 1500 characters, and so I already added more info. (thanks for telling me that as well) Philippines is one of the countries to have limited resources, though I did get old newspapers (thanks to google) to use for the critical and commercial reception. :) 001Jrm (talk) 06:36, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Much better now! Just FYI, 1500 characters isn't required for ALL new articles, but it is a good benchmark to avoid deletion, and 1500 IS required for DYK. I hope that clarifies things. My only hesitation with promoting this now are the IMBD sources - some IMBD content is staff-generated, some user-generated, and some user-generated and reviewed by staff. I don't know enough about IMBD to know one way or the other. If you can get that info somewhere else, it might be best. Otherwise, we'll have to wait for someone with more experience with IMBD to weigh in here.--¿3family6 contribs 14:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
  • @ 3family6. The answers to your question about the authority of IMDb are here and here. Broadly speaking, they have contributors just as WP does, but at IMDb all contributor input is vetted before publication, and contributors with a record of unreliability get more closely scrutinised than the rest or might be banned. IMO it's probably the best and most reliable resource for movie credits, second only to the credits on DVDs. I fear that WP might be a little out of date on the subject of IMDb as a source though - so although I think it's a valid source for movie credits, you might still get hassle in a DYK nom if you use it as refs. I should add that IMDb does have public comments/opinions sections at the bottom of some pages, and of course those sections cannot be used as sources. I think that on IMDb if you can't edit it, then that bit has been staff-vetted, and in a section where you can add an opinion, that bit is not staff-vetted. --Storye book (talk) 13:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
For what IMDb is being used for in this article, I see no problem with it. The only reason I questioned it above was because I wasn't sure of what the guidelines for Wikipedia are regarding its use. It's up to you, 001Jrm.--¿3family6 contribs 14:45, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for all the comments. I'll try to look for other sources other than IMDB, but it will take a long time. 001Jrm (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
001Jrm, any progress on this or shall we close the nomination? Love, Bad-ass DYK Enforcer Belle (talk) 12:20, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm also not sure. I'm actually waiting for others to comment here since, just like what we discussed before, the only minor issue here is the IMDB sourcing. Though, one Wikipedian (¿3family6) says it's not a problem. Thanks for commenting :) 001Jrm (talk) 03:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Let's try summoning 3family6 to see if they want to sign it off (my feeling is let it go through and see if anybody objects when it is given wider exposure; yes, I'm that wild) Belle (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm fine with it as is - approved per Story book and Belle's comments.--¿3family6 contribs 05:21, 31 July 2014 (UTC)