Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Ronald Greene
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 18:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
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Death of Ronald Greene
... that after police beat and dragged Ronald Greene face down while shackled, and said "That shit hurts, doesn't it?" while pepper-spraying him in the face, one officer was reprimanded for poor courtesy?Sources: "troopers ... put him in a chokehold and punched him in the face" [1] "uses of force ... included dragging him facedown by his ankle shackles and spraying him in the face with pepper spray... investigators wrote that “Greene’s eyes are squeezed shut as he shakes his head back and forth moaning in pain, movements consistent with having been sprayed in the face with (pepper) spray.” The records noted that around this time ... a local deputy assisting in the arrest added, “Yeah, that sh– hurts, doesn’t it?”" [2] "DeMoss got a “letter of counseling” and a “letter of reprimand," ... He was found to have violated rules on “courtesy” and body-worn or car cameras, officials said." [3]
Created by Levivich (talk) and Starship.paint (talk). Nominated by EEng (talk) at 15:26, 20 May 2021 (UTC).
Please hold off on reviewing while some new material is added to the article. EEng 07:03, 22 May 2021 (UTC)- Have you finished adding the material, EEng? starship.paint (exalt) 08:13, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think this was about adding the new developments from Friday/the weekend (police released all videos in full, some additional details reported such as the police using chemical weapons, and I think DeMoss was fired)... I was going to update the article but I've gotten busy IRL and haven't had time to thoroughly read the newer sources (I've only skimmed the headlines). Starship.paint, if you or E have time to update it (or maybe you already have, I haven't looked at the recent expansions to the article) please by all means go for it and don't wait for me. Thanks either way, Levivich harass/hound 13:50, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Have you finished adding the material, EEng? starship.paint (exalt) 08:13, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Review:
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- Policy: Neutral, sources check out, no close paraphrasing, etc.
- Hook Comments and suggestions follow.
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- Thank you for this interesting and encyclopedic article. (I made several copyedits to it before reviewing, and I have no remaining concerns about the page itself.) My only concern is with the hook. I believe that it is unnecessarily verbose, and some of the word choices are not quite in keeping with the source material. About the latter, I think that "was reprimanded for poor courtesy" is not strictly in keeping with the source material, and needs to be precise per WP:BLP. For these reasons, I suggest:
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- ... that after police beat and dragged Ronald Greene face down while shackled, and pepper-sprayed him in the face, one of them received letters of counseling and reprimand for violating courtesy rules?
- --Tryptofish (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that after police beat, choked, pepper-sprayed, and dragged Ronald Greene face down while shackled, saying "that shit hurts, doesn't it?", courtesy rules were listed as something that was violated?