Talk:William Beanes/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Eddie891 (talk · contribs) 21:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Will review, shortly. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)Q

Comments

• Hi Doug, sorry it's taken so long for me to comment here. life got in the way. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

•  Done

• Saving lede for last, other comments follow the article chronologically

• "and the second generation with this family name" strikes me as superfluous detail

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "He was the third generation with the Scottish family name in America and one of the second generation of the family born in America. " I think this is unneeded

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:13, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "third generation with the family name born in America and the fourth Scottish descendant in America with the Beanes family nam" same... It can probably be inferred

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "They had a son named William," clarify that this is the william who's the subject. Additionally, you don't cite his birth daate in the article

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:22, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "in a comfortable rural environment" do you think you could rephrase this? What does 'a comfortable rural environment refer to?

•  Done Reworded. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:38, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "He became" clarify if, as it presumably means, you are referring to Hanson.

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• I think you can trim some of the detail about John Hanson, because it's really about John and not William.

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:52, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Boston's position" which was?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:19, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "put into effect the" just in the county or in the nation?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:34, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "distinguished scientist with an excellent reputation" is there any substance to this? What does 'scientist' mean here? What about 'excellent reputation?

•  Done Extra references provided with quotes. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and his son" Beanes' son or Archer's?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "in the Chesapeake Bay area of Maryland" imho unneeded

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:49, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• Where were all the other inhabitants of Upper Marlboro? If the source doesn't specify, that's fine.

•  Done Researched and sources don't say. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "and that it had perhaps been a ruse" can you rephrase this a little bit?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "undue vehemence" can you be a little more specific here?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Ross and Cockburn soon released Bowie and the others" do we know why

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "appointed by fourth President James Madison" needed?

•  Done Removed. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "came across the" presumably they 'reached' the ship rather than just happening upon it?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "who refused to release Beanes" do we know why?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "Skinner knew Beanes had a good reputation" value?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "reputation. He collected letters " who does he refer to

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• "sail back to Baltimore, but held " missing word?

•  Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• I've lightly ce'd, please check that the changes are agreeable to you.

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

• Given that there's such a paucity of biographical information on Beanes, how would you feel about re-purposing this into an article on the Writing of the Star Spangled Banner? I don't think it would take much work, mostly the lede, but also understand there's a case to be made for keeping the article as is. Let me know what you think, please. I'm fine either way. Nice work on this interesting topic. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 01:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Eddie891: I considered your proposal and after much thought on it came to the conclusion that I think I would rather stick with the biography on William Beanes. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

• That works for me, thanks for considering it. Cheers- Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 11:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

•  Working Read over your comments and thinking them over now on how to answer each one. Will mark Done after I have addressed each of your comments.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:57, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
• @Eddie891: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:31, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Misc

• Images are good

•  Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Sources look good, but formatting for newspaper articles is wonky. Did you use Newspapers.com? If so, I recommend adding links to the clippings. Otherwise, they are fine as is

•  Done - I did not put those in the article. I believe in properly citing news clippings and providing link. I use Newspaper.com alot, as you might have already noticed. Fixed those news references with proper cites where applicable. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• Earwigs has a pretty high percent, but that looks almost definitely like a mirror

•  Done yes, mirror. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

• spotcheck to come... Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:55, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

@Eddie891: These further points addressed. Can you look again please. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:40, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

User:Eddie891 These further points addressed. Can you look again please. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:55, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

• Spotcheck
  • I don't know that source 11 is enough to substantiate 'some historians', when it merely looks like an ad

•  Done - removed this line, as I couldn't find additional references for this.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

• • other sourcing lines up
  • you never cite the date of death in the article body AFAICS = He died there on October 12, 1828 @Eddie891:
• And that's-- at long last-- it from here Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
• LGTM Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 15:32, 29 October 2020 (UTC)