Talk:Waddell Buddhist temple shooting

Article name

• Waddell, Arizona Buddhist temple shooting

I believe that should be:

• Waddell, Arizona, Buddhist temple shooting

because the state is a parenthetical identification. Likewise, we'd write a date "October 23, 2015, and so on..." Without the extra comma it looks odd. 2602:306:C5B4:E3D0:95D5:9D18:77A3:D788 (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 10 November 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved to Waddell Buddhist temple shooting. No consensus on the other articles listed. In hindsight they should probably have been done separately. No prejudice against a new discussion for them. Jenks24 (talk) 02:10, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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• Waddell, Arizona Buddhist temple shooting → Waddell Buddhist temple shooting
• 2014 Harris County, Texas shooting → 2014 Harris County shooting
• 2015 Harris County, Texas shooting → 2015 Harris County shooting
• Pike County, Ohio, shootings → 2016 Pike County shootings
• 2012 Webster, New York shooting → 2012 Webster shooting

– I'm proposing these awkwardly titled articles be renamed. WP:Copyedit#Punctuation prescribes that City, State constructs require a second (closing) comma, unless followed by other punctuation. However, using City, State as a compound modifier makes the title awkward and a little confusing to read, in running text or otherwise, whether with the comma (#3) or without it. For #4 I have added the year to add precision (there are also many Pike counties). I'm a little hesitant over #5, since Webster is the name of many things beside places. An alternative would be 2012 Webster shooting (New York), following the pattern of Harris County Sheriff's Office (Texas). HandsomeFella (talk) 19:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)--Relisting. —usernamekiran(talk) 20:37, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

• Support for the Waddell shooting, do not support for the others. There are multiple Harris Counties, Pike Counties, and Websters located all across the U.S. It would be confusing if we left out the state names somehow. HastyBriar321 (talk) 03:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
• Support HastyBriar321's alternative.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  05:34, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

  Comment: allright then, let's make it

  2014 Harris County shooting (Texas),

  2015 Harris County shooting (Texas),

  2016 Pike County shootings (Ohio), and

  2012 Webster shooting (New York),

  following the Sheriff's Office pattern I mentioned. HandsomeFella (talk) 07:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

  • That has never been done before. It's risky. HastyBriar321 (talk) 19:07, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
    • Oh, but it has. Didn't you see the Harris County Sheriff's Office (Texas) example I mentioned above? Surely that's better than "Harris County, Texas(,) Sheriff's Office – with or without the comma. HandsomeFella (talk) 17:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
• Comment: If the longer names are kept, the punctuation has to be corrected: "Waddell, Arizona, Buddhist temple shooting", etc. Those commas always come in pairs. See MOS:COMMA.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  18:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

  Support adding the commas if nothing else. Neutral on the various other alternatives. Dicklyon (talk) 01:09, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

• Comment—Also support per SMcCandlish. But. generally, commas maybe—not the disruptive parentheses unless there's no other way. Tony (talk) 00:36, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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