Talk:Visa requirements for Indonesian citizens

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Odd

Are all other countries articles of the same sort are as picturesque as this obsessive flag ridden list? Satu Suro 14:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'Fraid so, see Category:Visa requirements by nationality. Its one of the reasons these articles were split from the national passports articles. RashersTierney (talk) 15:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Map

Just noticed the new map. Looks good in quality, but I've some content comments:

UK (this map) nor Ireland (previous map) give visa free entrance
The diplomatic visa info is not sourced (not in the article)

Could you try to give sources in the wiki and update the map? If the data cannot be sourced I think it should be removed... L.tak (talk) 10:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The map is confusing, should not show transit visa only countries as visa free, and diplomatic passport only categories should be less intensive colour or not shown at all. 121.44.93.247 (talk) 02:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

map is much better now... Issue resolved. L.tak (talk) 10:39, 31 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan (and Aruba, UK, US etc)

A question of inclusion of Taiwan touches on what should be added here. It is true that Taiwan accepts Indonesian passport holders if they have a residence permit of certain other countries. This makes the visa free entrance primarily dependent on a residence permit. While I would advocate for this to be part of visa policy of Taiwan, in these sections it is such a rare exception -not intrinsic to Indonesian nationality- that it is best avoided. I therefore propose to remove Taiwan... L.tak (talk) 15:25, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let me give some examples that are equivalent to adding Aruba etc. An indonesian With a German residence permit (and when married to an EU citizen), you get a visa for the UK for free (see several EU articles for sources); The stated info on Aruba also holds for caribbean Netherlands. With a residence permit for Saint Martin, also Sint Maarten can be entered. Indonesian permanent residents of Canada (or the US holding) a Nexus card can visit the US (or Canada) using the card. These things all have nothing to do with the indonesian nationality, make the list more obscure, and that is the reason why I like to keep them out.. L.tak (talk) 16:39, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Schengen Visa Free entry

I have removed the countries Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg (BeNeLux) and Austria from the visa-free list. Although these countries are free to decide about their visa-policy for diplomatic/service passports, they have to indicate that here and they didn't. I also looked on the website of the NL embassy in indonesia but couldn't find anything there. The old link regarding BeNeLux stated that visa for Germany were needed even though diplomatic visa were visa free for BeNeLux. For Austria, the Austrian embassy in Indonesia states nothing on visa free entrance, and lists the diplomatic passports in their visa price list of IDN nationals (indicating they needed visa)... here That is a contradiction, however, with the present sources. However these present sources (especially BeNeLux) seem to state it like an unupdated sidenote here and I guess they are less reliable than the official EU visa policy guide. I am willing to re-add the visa information if we have recent reliably sourced info, but currently there seems to be not enough... L.tak (talk) 18:29, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, after reading the second link on your above writing, I could see that Indonesians who hold diplomatic and service passports are subject to free-visa-requirement for stay not exceeding 30 days. It has its own article on the website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.54.8 (talk) 01:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed; it looks like you're right, so Austria should be in again... Rgds! L.tak (talk) 08:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and sources that mirror or use it

Please, for editors on the page, read Wikipedia:Verifiability#Wikipedia and sources that mirror or use it. PoetVeches (talk) 21:00, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Visa free map

Based on the newest news, both the Indonesian and Ukrainian government signed a visa free policy of Indonesian citizens who wants to visit Ukraine. someone may update the map from light green to dark green. 2001:448A:50A0:64CC:ADF3:DC7F:ED02:AF (talk) 11:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source or citation needed

This article stated that there is a visa exemption agreement was signed in Kyiv, Ukraine on 29th June 2022 with a proof however under that first point there is the second point that stated "This have not yet to be ratified" where this point does not have a proof or citation or something like that. May I kindly request for proof or citation for this second point? Revio Derson (talk) 07:31, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Colour of Mauritius on map

Mauritius (the tiny dot to the right of Madagascar on the map) is coloured grey on the map despite granting Indonesian citizens visa on arrival (B5E61D in the colour scheme). Please update the map where possible. Thanks Syadthabigo (talk) 09:35, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing formatting

Information on the main table has lots of information copied from the "visa exemptions due to having other visas". It's very redundant and cluttered, not to mention confusing. I suggest combining the information from "visa exemptions due to having other visas" to the main table so there is one single source of information. Indonesiantraveler (talk) 19:54, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As an alternative, the existing "visa exemptions due to having other visas" table could be changed to a list of countries one can enter with a particular visa. For example, with a US B1/B2 visa, you can enter the following countries: xxx. Indonesiantraveler (talk) 20:34, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As the main table is the main point of contact for readers, I will only be adding new information on exemptions on the main table. Perhaps I will rework the "visa exemptions due to having other visas" section in the future, but anyone is welcome! Indonesiantraveler (talk) 20:44, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]