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Assassin's Creed

You can clearly see Assassin's Creed-like images on all the posters and trailers of this movie, moreover the plot seems to be related to the game. Many people stated it here, so please stop deleting their edits.

Thank you. 70.79.50.57 (talk) 03:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just a comment, Assassin's Creed is an amazing game. Pretty thrilling how a Tamil movie is going to be based on a video game for the first time. It's pretty rare for unregistered IP address users visit this talk page as they go ahead and make changes automatically to the article, as they do with many Tamil cinema related articles. Good thing this article is protected. EelamStyleZ (talk) 16:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added the costume part to the article with reference. As the Original poster said, the costume is clearly inspired/copy of Assassin's creed. -BiLLa- •talk• 18:32, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Altair is the potagonist of AC I, Ezio of ACII. And the poster looks more like Ezio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.129.224.34 (talk) 18:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then, it must be discussed here before removing from the article. Otherwise, I'll keep adding it. -BiLLa- •talk• 16:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's WP:SYNTH to post a link to a side-by-side set of images and say "see, they look alike". DMacks (talk) 23:39, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just got told off by Karthikndr for adding the info. Apparently it's "not constructive". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistafreak (talk • contribs) 04:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

Genelia is a prostitute who happens to see an accident in which a bunch of goons die. She takes this opportunity to create a fictional character called Velayudham . She writes a letter that Velayudam has done this assassination to end the rowdy deeds in the city. Word spread like wildfire that there is a guy called Velayudham who is the protector of the common man. Genelia takes more opportunities to popularize the character. There is a Ponna guy called Vijay who has a widowed mother, a beautiful and cute sister , Saranya Mohan to take care of. As his sister's marriage is fixed, Vijay goes to Hyderabad to get the zero lakhs he saved in a chit fund company. There he happens to be involved in a few bomb blasting incidents and avoids all the bomb blasts without his knowledge. People start to think that he is Velayudam. Genelia meets him and explains him about her mission of ending nonsense in the city, who is more interested in retrieving money from Chitfund Company and going back to village to participate in his sister's marriage refuses to enact the role of the legendary Velayudam . But later on the chitfund company turns out to be bogus. By looking at victims of the chitfund company committing suicide, Vijay wears the mask of Velayudham to stop corruption in the city.--Simy2j (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)--Simy2j (talk) 07:44, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever you do, just don't add that to the article until the actual movie releases. Velayudham is still not confirmed to be a remake of Azad. EelamStyleZ (talk) 04:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Genre

Please do not change the genre as it is not a masala film and it is a superhero film or action thriller as you can see the images and posters. It is said that this movie will be an entertainer but there is no statement that this is a masala film. So, please don't change the genres by adding false cit referances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.114.150 (talk) 03:23, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Image

What happened to the velayudham poster image? Please do not remove that. It is'nt good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.114.150 (talk) 03:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit Warring

Some new user is constantly edit warring with three editors. He has also moved the page to "Velayudham~Official" and continues his disruptive actions despite multiple prior warnings. --Commander (Ping Me) 14:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. And more soever his username matches mine, i want a serious help for that too, to avoid confusion. Karthik Nadar (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand what is there for you to worry. --Commander (Ping Me) 16:37, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Karthikndr is the one that insists that we don't mention Assassin's Creed on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistafreak (talk • contribs) 04:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I insist unless this news comes under Indian Media. They are just comparing poster with Assassin Creed [whatever], but now have become a so big issue. Wikipedia is not a news too. As said earlier we require a reliable source like The Times of India, Oneindia.in, or at-least Behindwoods.com or IndiaGlitz. But none of those site have mentioned that as of so far. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 04:11, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since when was local news the only valid source of info? Wikipedia is supposed to unbiased. Even if Ubisoft chooses not to sue (which is possible), that's got nothing to do with what we put in the article. Besides, most movies have pages that are updated frequently when there's news.Vistafreak (talk) 04:25, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't accept local news a the only source of info, but a verifiable source. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 04:40, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Facebook page

None of the Facebook page of Velayudham is by its producers. All are fan based pages. Discuss here and then add. Karthik Nadar (talk) 05:51, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Karthik - why are you so keen in erasing the fame earned by Vijay? Are you a ajith fan?

Can you tell me whether mankatha has pages created by its producers in the facebook world? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kums red (talk • contribs) 11:23, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First thing i am Vijay fan

Mankatha has not official page but Venkat prabhu had!-he done promo for mankatha through his page itself --Karthik31087 (talk) 14:07, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Controversy section

This section has been deleted several times today, mostly by IP editors and WP:SPAs. The most recent deletion included the edit summary "improper sources, undiscussed, irrelevant and redundant here!" I don't see what's wrong with using GamePro as a source, and it seems quite relevant to the article's subject. Angry Python (talk) 15:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The source you provided is a bare comment, and the person doesn't seem as an expert in the field he takes care of, nor is he notable enough to be used here. Discussing is not enough, you need consensus before restoring the section, as I have removed it now. I'll try getting the opinions of more editors, before which the section must not have a place in the article. Moviecrow is not a good source, by the way. Two users, reportedly socks were blocked for adding the site to many articles. Secret of success Talk to me 16:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In case any editors would like to actually read what was deleted again by User:Secret of success (ostensibly with the aim of gaining consensus), it can be found in this edit. Angry Python (talk) 17:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know nothing about Moviecrow but if the general consensus is that it's not a reliable source then that creates a problem for this section as it's the main source of information. The Gamepro link it just one editor expressing his opinion and he's not even clearly stating that it is a rip-off. By itself it's not a sufficient source to establish that a controversy exists. I spent some time searching the Internet for any other references to this and while it's being discussed in forums and blogs all over the place I could find no obviously reliable sources discussing it. Again, assuming Moviecrow is not reliable and given that Gamepro is reporting on the fan outrage more than any facts surrounding the case, then the section should not be included without finding a better source. SQGibbon (talk) 17:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was quiet busy in constructing Ra.One, hence forgot to care about Velayutham. Firstly SQGibbon is right, Moviecrow is not at all a reliable source. Regarding GamePro as source, we can't trust the same for film Tamil film related. If your mentioned controversy regarding assasi....... is true, then is other media sleeping. So wait n watch to findout its true or just a bit of timepass work -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:28, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I think, this matter is slowly spreading all over. I have now seen two popular German video game magazines (I am living in Germany!!), PC Games ([1]) and Games Aktuell ([2]) reporting about this; others might follow. And besides GamePro, there are records/commentaries/notes in many video game-based sites/magazines/blogs like Kotaku ([3]), Screw Attack ([4] and EGM ([5]), too. And it's being discussed in numerous forums as well. I don't know what you consider as a reliable source and what not (Moviecrow, btw, is certainly not a reliable source!), but I guess, this cannot be swept under the carpet anymore. This could become a serious issue soon! Johannes003 (talk) 21:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Johannes, good sources you got. You are right, if it is so, this issue will slowly spread among Indian medias. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 06:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So far all the sources supplied seem to be editors from game sites who notice the similarity but then don't provide any actual facts about the controversy like if Ubisoft is aware of it and are taking any actions or any comments from the producers of the film. We need something substantive from a reliable source and not just people (editors, bloggers, forum posts, etc.) speculating about the connection. SQGibbon (talk) 07:35, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We can cover it without making it sound like a controversy. The observations are verifiable through reliable sources. Saw (film) has a section about how it was compared to Seven without throwing the word "controversy" around. There doesn't need to be legal repercussions or anything like that to report others' observations. Erik (talk | contribs) 17:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That section in the Saw article has more detail than the sources listed above. For one thing it has a reaction from the people who made Saw. And then the critics talking about the film actually come right out and make the comparison whereas what I've seen so far (and based on the sources above) it appears that people (the reliable sources) are just talking about a perceived resemblance and aren't asserting as fact or making it part of their reviews. I'm afraid that no matter how it's phrased it will comes across as undue weight until a reliable source actually makes the strong claim that the film is ripping-off the game. It'll probably happen soon enough so it's just a matter of finding a really good source and not one that's just reporting fan reaction. SQGibbon (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey all... seeing the posters, trailers, web sources, etc any human eye can tell that this movie has elements from Assassin's creed, my question is how wikipedia will let users know about this to its users ? plain and simple.. And more over if controversy is not a good name to let people know about the truth behind the copying of elements from the game then where should this information should go ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.144.238 (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to read the Wikipedia guideline on original research. Just because you think the connection is obvious is not sufficient for inclusion in the article. You need to cite reliable sources who make that specific claim (and aren't just reporting on fan reactions). I'm sure that if there is anything going on here it won't be long till sources show up that meet Wikipedia requirements for inclusion in the article. For example if Ubisoft released an official statement or the producers of this film said something then that would work. SQGibbon (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How to let wikipedia users know about truth related to this movie and Assassin's creed ?

Hey all... seeing the posters, trailers, web sources, etc any human eye can tell that this movie has elements from Assassin's creed, my question is how wikipedia will let users know about this to its users ? plain and simple.. And more over if controversy is not a good name to let people know about the truth behind the copying of elements from the game then where should this information should go ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AssassinsCreedGameVsVelayudham (talk • contribs) 14:48, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We should be able to use reliable sources to make the comparison. Just search for Velayudham "Assassin's Creed" in Google News Search for some headlines. I think "Controversy" is a loaded word, so I think that a section heading called "Comparisons to Assassin's Creed" would be sufficient. For example, the Good Article Saw (film) has a section heading called "Comparisons to Seven (1995)". By the way, I encourage you to change to a username that can be used more generally? I mean, do you plan to use it even after we resolve this issue? :) Erik (talk | contribs) 15:00, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the section just above this one where we've been discussing the issue. SQGibbon (talk) 16:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is a south Indian movie called Velayutham which is releasing/ed on 26th, of October. But the costume that the main hero uses in the movie is copied from Assassins creed game. Not only the costume but also some moves and actions which the protagonist of the game Altair can do in the game.There is also a Facebook page which is related to this topic, Its Vijay's Velayutham copied from Assassin's Creed (You can type this exact words in Facebook search bar to find that page). But Velayutham the movie team didn't have any legal rights to copy the character, But the Assassin's creed game is copyrighted under the correct law is has to be, the developers & publishers can file a case to this film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.134.101.129 (talk) 07:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care whether Ubisoft gets their royalties or not. It's the fact that we keep getting silenced on Wikipedia that bothers me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vistafreak (talk • contribs) 04:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the film, and is no where related to Assassin's creed. He just uses Assassin's creed costume for few sequence. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not true. He draws the dagger the way Ezio does in the game. Deliberate attempt to plagiarize. -BiLLa- •talk• 23:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All the above is incorrect. Of course velayudham story is not related to assassin's creed, but his costume and fighting styles which resemble assassins creed prevail throughout the movie. Yes, that became the fictional characters official superhero look. Maybe we can add a section that describes "curiosity about the films similarity to assassins creed that people initially had, but all was proven false". Kailash29792 (talk) 04:29, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can add Kailash29792, but please with a reliable source. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 08:04, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from , 2 November 2011

₹51.1 crore (US$6.1 million)

in Twenty five days 86.174.216.6 (talk) 17:38, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:54, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Velayudham vs Assassin's Creed - Official News

It is no secret that Velayudham has borrowed some elements from the video game series Assassin's Creed (well, only the costume and the fighting styles) but its story is completely different which is also a well-known fact. Here are some sources that describe Velayudham vs Assassin's Creed (I believe they are reliable enough):

Not reliable sources. Unless one is mentioned giving actual facts without going into unnecessary speculation, we have no reason to extend any discussion. Secret of success Talk to me 17:02, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If that is so, then please check this out - http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-cinemaplus/article2602245.ece?textsize=small&test=2 leads you to a nationally reliable source. Kailash29792 (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The source doesn't say much, with the exception of "the costume itself loosely borrowed from Assassin's Creed video game". Whatever you want to add, post it here first and get consensus to do so. Secret of success Talk to me 18:15, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit request from , 21 November 2011

ok, 1 addition to the point of movie can be made that, Velayudham is the second highest-grossing opening for a Tamil film. Please add that point in the ending line of Introduction of the article.

Rashid CHILLAX (talk) 22:51, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. CTJF83 23:12, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 December 2011

Please remove critical response heading, all the information's are fake (CNN , rediff) Selvarajprabhu (talk) 09:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done:Fake? What you actually wanna say?? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 09:18, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 18 December 2011

Velayudham gross in 50 days = 98.1 crores. 117.206.59.206 (talk) 10:28, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In Wikipedia, we need an authentic source claiming such a thing. Please provide one if you wish to add it. Due to certain reasons, a site like "cinema.currentweek" is being restricted for its usage here. X.One SOS 11:11, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 19 December 2011

on 17/11/2011 for velayudham movie Box office collection has shown wrongly(Collection as not reached till 70 crore but wiki shon that day has 98 crore) For that 98 core they have given some fake refrence link. please check and update.

220.225.209.113 (talk) 07:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. Nowhere is it shown 98 crore. Even if it was, it would have been removed by some users, as sources like cinema.currentweek aren't considered to be RS's. X.One SOS 08:39, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 19 December 2011 - Box office status

Velayudham was declared a hit and was only second to Suriya's 7aam arivu that was released along with this movie.[1]

Rizjiji (talk) 11:52, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you give me a Source?? -- Karthik Nadar 12:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 December 2011


14.96.28.110 (talk) 12:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No request made--Jac16888 Talk 12:43, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 December 2011

Velayudham recieved positive response from all medias.

117.206.55.17 (talk) 14:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2.5 is a mixed review aint a positive one. -- Karthik Nadar 15:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 December 2011

Velayudham 50 days collection is 89.1 crore.....not 70 crore..so please change it..refer http://cinema.currentweek.net/2011/12/velayutham-50-days-collections-box.html

117.206.55.17 (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Cinema.currentweek has been accused of being unreliable, but still no direct discussion has taken place and the site seems reasonable. X.One SOS 16:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 29 December 2011

no,,velayudham was having positive reviews from all medias,,,check sify,indiaglitz,radiff,etc..

117.206.55.17 (talk) 15:46, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A review is decided by its rating and general consensus is that 2.5 and 3 (50% and 60%) are mixed reviews. That applies for this film as well. X.One SOS 15:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 January 2012

Velayudham total collecton up to 50 days was 89.1,,,,the figure you have written is absolutely wrong....please change it.. http://www.kollyinsider.com/2011/12/velayudham-velayutham-50-days-box.html http://cineandhra.net/site/tamil/velayudham-50-days-collection http://timesofap.com/cinema/tag/velayudham-collections/

117.206.56.212 (talk) 10:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. There was some vandalism happening, and I had to revert it. X.One SOS 07:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 1 February 2012


117.213.49.62 (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No request--Jac16888 Talk 18:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

someone has uploaded the 100th day official poster but still its showing the old version can anyone change it to the 100 th day poster? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.159.89 (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

can u pls change it to the 100th day poster?

Edit request on 3 February 2012

add this official poster https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426932_312598398786248_184294508283305_875381_1400686724_n.jpg

117.213.51.125 (talk) 06:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Why to change the image every-time?? I guess 100 days poster will be the best one as of now. -- Karthik Nadar 12:49, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 3 February 2012

101 day poster can be used.. here it is 

http://i41.tinypic.com/k0g32q.jpg

kindly update it 117.213.55.205 (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Posters need not be updated in film articles without a reason. They are likely to contain a useless list of theaters screening it, and some subjective claims. If needed, it should be mentioned in the prose with a source. X.One SOS 16:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 3 February 2012

or if u want 100 days poster,,here it is http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/PQAAAGOl1LktdAci7MqBzzg9jLSEKbN6bSeLcZVovmSAWttlK7qQE8OnNwXDlX1UxMgrybnrMPmKfNEnvRaNa9O-IAQAm1T1UD8NO_lt4y8MgcZF5o0uKcssOSeE.jpg 117.213.55.205 (talk) 15:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See above. X.One SOS 16:29, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 3 February 2012

Ayngaran International Vijay’s big film of last year ‘Velayudham’ is completing 100 days today. The film was released on Diwali day with a grand opening. The film with a budget of Rs. 45 Crores grossed more than 120 Crores worldwide. The film was directed by ‘Jayam’ Raja and featured Vijay, Genelia D ‘Souza, Hansika, Santhanam and Saranya Mohan in the lead role. Vijay Antony’s tunes hit the top of the charts and helped the film for its success. Aaskar Ravichandran produced the film. https://www.facebook.com/ayngaran 117.206.58.167 (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What you want us to change? -- Karthik Nadar 02:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 4 February 2012

Ayngaran International (London) : Velayudham with a budget of Rs. 45 crores grossed more than 120 crores worldwide.

Note : Ayngaran International is the worldwide distributor of Velayudham. https://www.facebook.com/ayngaran

117.206.50.15 (talk) 08:00, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is that proof for an official medium in the form of a facebook account? You need third party sources, independent of the subject, giving out the news. X.One SOS 09:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 4 February 2012

total collection is more dan 120 c....ayngaran confirmed it https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=360874123925617&set=a.188252164521148.48933.117401251606240&type=1&theater

117.213.51.135 (talk) 16:28, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: See above. -- Karthik Nadar 17:37, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 6 February 2012

velayudham collected more than 120 crores in its 100 days ...why did u remove the collections...it waas given by a very much reliable source Ayngaran international--the overseas distributer of the film...kindly update the total collections as 120 c. source: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=360874123925617&set=a.188252164521148.48933.117401251606240&type=1&ref=nf

117.206.48.30 (talk) 13:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A facebook photo is not a reliable source--Jac16888 Talk 13:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


photo?? it was not only a photo....check the description....its ayngaran international official fb page..

Edit request on 6 February 2012

Ayngaran International (London) : Velayudham with a budget of Rs. 45 crores grossed more than 120 crores worldwide.

Note : Ayngaran International is the worldwide distributor of Velayudham.

source : https://www.facebook.com/ayngaran

117.206.60.104 (talk) 15:22, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have proof that that account is officially Ayngaran's? Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This clearly does not satisfy that criterion. X.One SOS 15:35, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
do u have any proof that it is not an offcial page??? by viewin dat page u can understand whether it is original or not.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.62.162 (talk) 05:56, 7 February 2012
The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Please fetch a source stating that the account is officially Ayngaran's. X.One SOS 11:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this is the official page of ayangaran http://www.ayngaran.com/ in this page click the facebook icon shown below in that site.which is connected to that facebook page that person has mentioned and its confirmed as an official site so its reliable and can be used as per wiki rules.please search for posts on feburary 3rd 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.164.34.144 (talk) 04:41, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 February 2012

http://cineandhra.net/site/tamil/velayudham-120-crores-worldwide 117.206.62.162 (talk) 05:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.--Ankit Maity TalkContribs 11:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 February 2012

http://cineandhra.net/site/tamil/velayudham-120-crores-worldwide 117.206.62.162 (talk) 05:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.--Ankit Maity TalkContribs 11:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 7 February 2012


117.213.48.252 (talk) 09:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.--Ankit Maity TalkContribs 11:28, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 11 February 2012

why did u remove the collections of velayudham as it was announced by ayngaran international during its 100 th day ?? 117.206.60.44 (talk) 12:16, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Verifiability policy states that self-published media, such as books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. Hence it was removed. Thank you! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:40, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 11 February 2012

velayutham total collection 142 crore

source:ascar films pvt ltd.

117.206.58.127 (talk) 15:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. X.One SOS 15:21, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 February 2012

Hi Please update the total gross detail for velautham after 105 days Thanks Shan

Prashasoft (talk) 12:51, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. X.One SOS 13:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 February 2012

Dear Sir Please find the Distributor's [Ayngaran International] official fan page [Facebook] it says 120 C in 100 Days please check the following link and update the gross accordingly https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=360874123925617&set=a.188252164521148.48933.117401251606240&type=1&ref=nf Thanks Shan

Prashasoft (talk) 12:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Wikipedia Verifiability policy states that self-published media, such as books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, Internet forum postings, and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources. -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 13:11, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 24 February 2012

box office collection 106 crores ah??? its wrong bro,,kindly change it,,its 120 c,,,,confirmed by ayngaran international

117.213.49.205 (talk) 11:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.--Ankit MaityTalkContribs 11:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 25 February 2012

frm where u get velayudham collections as 106 crores???// pls giv d source or remove it.... else add 120 crores..which was confirmed by ayngaran international...

Ayngaran International (London) : Velayudham with a budget of Rs. 45 crores grossed more than 120 crores worldwide. Note : Ayngaran International is the worldwide distributor of Velayudham. source : https://www.facebook.com/ayngaran this is the official page of ayangaran http://www.ayngaran.com/ in this page click the facebook icon shown below in that site.which is connected to that facebook page that person has mentioned and its confirmed as an official site so its reliable and can be used as per wiki rules 117.213.52.72 (talk) 14:02, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

120 crore is a highly illogical figure, especially for a Vijay film and usage of sources from Ayngaran's media is a violation of WP:SELFPUB. X.One SOS 14:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
120 crore is a highly illogical figure for a vijay film???? wot u mean??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.213.52.72 (talk) 18:01, 25 February 2012
That was just an addendum. It can be ignored, the more important part of my comment was the WP:SELFPUB thingy. Please go through that. X.One SOS 08:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 28 February 2012

I always see that Vijay's films are always ignored.Though you say that facebook sources are not allowed, the collections for mankatha are still being accepted, which is also declared by Sun Pictures in one of its social network. But this was accepted by many sources and even wikipedia. Give me reason please.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharu wikki (talk • contribs) 07:00, 26 February 2012

If anything, please see WP:OSE. Mankatha's collections came from Behindwoods.com, a regular Tamil film portal. Source. It does not mention any Facebook crap, but only says that Sun Pictures disclosed it. Hence, it becomes a third party. If the same happens for Velayudham, I will be happy to add it. X.One SOS 08:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-movies-slide-shows/movie-4/top-ten-movies-dec-12/tamil-cinema-topten-movie-velayudham.html
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