Talk:Tussilago

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the later appearing leaves then wither and die during the season without seeming to set flowers

A puzzling statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.97.125.10 (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Removing "Tussilago means 'cough suppressant'."

The claim "Tussilago means 'cough suppressant'" was added in 2005, and has never had a citation. I found two citations in "reliable sources":

  • Judzentiene, Asta; Budiene, Jurga (2011). "Volatile Oils of Flowers and Stems of Tussilago farfara L. from Lithuania". Journal of Essential Oil Bearing Plants. 14 (4): 413–416. doi:10.1080/0972060X.2011.10643595. ISSN 0972-060X. The word "tussilago" means "cough suppressant"
  • Williams, Roger L. (1997). "Letters 126 to 170 cover the final decade of Chaix's life": 219–280. doi:10.1007/978-94-011-5490-1_7. Tussilago means cough dispeller. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

However, I don't find them really good sources, and don't think the claim should be made unless a scholarly linguistic or Latin reliable source is cited, rather than a source about herbalism or other non-linguistic source. Non-reliable websites are full of the claim, either "cough suppressant" or "cough dispeller", but it doesn't appear in a word in free English or Latin dictionaries online. My concern is that the term is derived from latin, but may not have been used in Latin other than in reference to the plant, and the distinction between "derived from" and "means" can be lost in casual sources.

There are numerous reliable sources that say the word is derived from the latin tussis, meaning cough, and ago, which has a number of meanings, some of which are along the lines of to cast, to drive, or to act on. One old source translates it as "to act on or to cure", and an Italian source that translates it as "to cast". I am going to write that the term is derived from the latin, and cite those sources, although many others could be cited as well, with varying translations of "ago".

This non-RS webpage, while not something we should cite, offers a more detailed explanation of both Tussilago and farfara. "The generic name is from the Latin tussio, meaning 'to have a cough' and ago meaning 'to drive' in reference to its historical use "to drive away coughs." The species name farfara literally means 'coltsfoot' in Latin which is why 'farfara' is another common name for coltsfoot. The etymology of the Latin and species name is sometimes ascribed to farfarus, an archaic name for the white poplar tree whose leaves have a lobed margin that is similar to those of coltsfoot."

Agyle (talk) 15:23, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cultivar name

It looks as if the name of the non-toxic cultivar is 'Wien' (Vienna) not 'Wein' (wine)

Food Source

"The coltsfoot is also worked by the honey bee (Apis mellifera mellifera)." This sentence is ungrammatical and so self-evident that it is superfluous - bees (and not just the honey bee) collect nectar from all flowering plants. I am therefore removing it.Robocon1 (talk) 18:21, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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