Talk:The Oxford Companion to Music

Percy Scholes

There seems to be a lot of overlap between these two articles developing... Linuxlad 15:12, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I certainly tried to summarise the Scholes-related stuff from his own article (rather than just copying) and add more detail about how he compiled the OCM....maybe I failed! Inevitably the Scholes article must say something about his most important work and the work must say something about its author. I certainly think the balance does not look right, yet, because we do not have enough info about the later editions. Any suggestions gratefully received!! Bluewave 16:07, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Well I have (or rather my wife has) the New Companion so I could dig something out of the intro /dust-jacket I guess. Linuxlad

I've only got the tenth edition (1970) which is still mostly vintage Scholes!

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The work (more or less) by Scholes

This article suggests that the work more or less by Scholes was supplanted in 1983 by the two-volume "New" one, which in turn was supplanted by the 2002 book. This isn't how I remember it at all. Rather, OUP attempted to supplant the earlier work by, or supplement it with (I forget), the two-volume work. This was not as successful in the marketplace as the one-volume work, which continued to be available (and, I'm pretty sure, to be revised as well) long after the two-volume work had disappeared from the bookstores. Anyway, I don't think that there was any longish period during which the one-volume work was unavailable. -- Hoary (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The unpopularity of the two-volume work

We read that, in certain, unspecified circles, the "New" book was unpopular on account of its bulk and price. I bought a copy and vaguely remember that it was priced rather reasonably, considering. I also vaguely remember having earlier read at least one mixed review (probably in the TLS), which was the reason why I wasn't willing to pay all that much for it. To me, it seemed (and seems) very much a first, unrevised edition of a reference book. It's not a matter of lack of polish, rather of multiple imbalances, for example with some articles on "major" composers saying a fair amount about the music itself, others saying next to nothing and instead just presenting biographies sprinkled with the titles of works.

Here and in the section immediately above, my personal impressions and memories are of course in themselves worthless (or "OR" as WP policy euphemistically phrases it), but I offer them in the hope that they'll prompt research here. -- Hoary (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I bought my wife a copy in the early 80s - she already had the one-volume work. The flysheet says c1983 reprinted 1984, which suggests a reasonable level of initial popularity. The dust jacket shows a price of 50GBP, and I got it reduced to 35GBP 'on offer'; but it never stopped being on offer as I recollect. So that rather suggets the initial price was seen as being too high. I think the rubric to the third edition can be read as suggesting that a return to a one volume format was seen as a popular move. Bob aka Linuxlad (talk) 13:32, 8 October 2008 (UTC)