Talk:Tahitians

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 (talk) 09:00, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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• Tahitians → Tahitian people
• Samoans → Samoan people
• Micronesians → Micronesian people
• Polynesians → Polynesian people
• Melanesians → Melanesian people
• Euronesian → Euronesian people
• Negrito → Negrito people

– To better distinguished between the people and the language. If there are more, please add.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Comment Micronesians is not applicable, because it's currently a redirect to Micronesia, so there is no article to move. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 16:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Semang → Semang people
• Lanoh → Lanoh people
• Ibaloi → Ibaloi people

• Support all of them. For consistency and to differentiate from the articles on their languages. Not sure about the Negrito though, as it's not exactly a single ethnic, linguistic, or even genetic group. The only thing they basically have in common is phenotype.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 16:51, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Added three more.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 17:11, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

• Not Sure - The language is not pluralized, the people are. So Tahitian, is the language or a person from Tahiti, Tahitians refers to the peoples of Tahiti?--Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 01:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
• Support Articles on ethnic and national groups are named inconsistently "Fooians" or "Foo people," probably due to differences in usage. Absent an overarching guideline, I prefer the latter for accuracy. --BDD (talk) 06:29, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose all except Lanoh → Lanoh people and Ibaloi → Ibaloi people. There is no ambiguity for the others and in some cases like Negrito there's no other similar term for possible confusion. For others such as Polynesians, sources do not support that there is one "people" at all. —  AjaxSmack  01:31, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
  • There definitely is. As much as there is for the ultra-super broad term of Asian people. There are definitely Polynesian languages, Tahitian language, Samoan language, etc.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
    • Sure, but there's no Polynesians language, Tahitians language, &c. Hence, no ambiguity and, per WP:PRECISION, no need for disambiguators. —  AjaxSmack  03:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
      • Like there isn't a Georgians language. There are definitely Polynesian languages, Tahitian language, Samoan language, etc.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:27, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
• This discussion seems to have fizzled out, but the discussion below about Malik Joyeux highlights the ambiguity in, at least, "Tahitians." I don't think we entirely escape that ambiguity with "Tahitian people," but I do think it's an improvement. It better implies "a people," rather than just a geographic population. --BDD (talk) 16:41, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
• Support all but Euronesian and Negrito, which are not ambiguous. (Yes, that's ignoring the "-s" for ambiguity purposes.) Kanguole 00:23, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
• Comment I think the relative "guideline" is here: WP:NCL and here: WP:ETHNICGROUP.--Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 00:40, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Based on WP:ETHNICGROUP, several of the titles should be plural (e.g. Negrito peoples which are "several ethnic groups" according to the article intro). The status quo presents no such problem and this nomination is solution still searching for a problem. —  AjaxSmack  21:20, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose, per AjaxSmack, and because the rationale for the move is not very strong. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:40, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

• Support that Lanoh should be Lanoh people. The same goes with Batek should be Batek people. These are very specific group of people. I did not realize that there is such discussion going on until 2 pages were moved by Cuchullain today. Is there a consensus to make the changes? Jeblat (talk) 04:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)