Talk:Stages of death

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Hi all, We will be editing the stage of death wikipages. Please let us know if you have any feedback to our suggestions!

Why this one? Include WP rating scale? How fit with your interests. Other details as desired

Dying is a very common part of life and we don’t spend a lot of time in medicine learning about the experience of death, so this seemed like and opt opportunity to dive deep. This is rated as start on the WP rating scale, hence it is an important article that still need to be developed.

Your WP editing team (up to 3) Jar-Yee , Aunoy, Manuella

Initial Analysis of the article The article seems very sparse, the definition of death for example has a very biomedical lens and doesn’t talk about the cultural differences of death. Overall organization, what changes

What will you add? We will add some more information about how death is defined and who was responsible for those definitions. We will also dive deep into the history of the stage of death and how it has changed historically. The article lacks a legal explanation of death so this could be added as well. Lastly, we will attempt to actually define the perimortem changes of death

What will you remove? There is very little information on the page, hence we will most likely add information rather than remove any information.

What will you augment? We will augment the definition of somatic and molecular death. We will contextualize the different types of death outlined in the article ( respiratory arrest, cardiac arrest and brain death) and show how they can be related to each other. What will you decrease coverage of? The article currently devotes a lot of space to defining the stages of decomposition. We will most likely decrease coverage of this topic since this is an event that occurs after death.

Roles in the project. List members and planned roles. Possible roles include: Overseer/amalgamator/reconciler Readability editor Researcher Editor/writer-what sections will each do?

Linker, for larger groups consider some one who will check the articles linked to make sure that the linked material is sufficient and accurate Images/graphics Other? Manuella-overseer, editor, legal definition of death, brain death, cardiac arrest Aunoy- researcher, editor, physiological changes of death Jar-Yee- readability editor, history of the stages of death and how it changes over time

Team coordination plan: Options might include, regular team meetings, sharing calendars, setting up a place to keep your work in order to edit collaboratively (this might be the sandbox, or it might be Box or DropBox or Slack, or other) We will work collaboratively through google docs and we will use the allotted time in class to edit the wiki pages WIP presenter Manuella, Jar-Yee, Aunoy

I like the plan that you have created. I'd suggest that you add more links to wikipedia pages Ebbie14 (talk) 18:29, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 30 August 2021 and 21 September 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Manuelladj, Nomoremisinformation, PLOWMINION.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 18:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

If alright with your team, I will go ahead and link a few of the terms listed in this page to other Wikipedia pages! I see this request commented above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NJodkoN (talk • contribs) 01:31, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Sequence of the stages

@Lord Urjit: Algor mortis is presumably the very first stage since the temperature begins to drop immediately after the hypothalamus ceases to function and the circulation stops. Pallor mortis and livor mortis set in after about 15 and 30 minutes, respectively. Rigor mortis follows starting from the 1st hour of death. Although the "chillness" becomes blatant only after 15 to 30 minutes, it begins immediately following death, technically speaking. So, shouldn't the order be algor, pallor, livor, rigor, putrefaction, decomposition, skeletonization, and fossilization? Rasnaboy (talk) 13:40, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Depends on whether Algor Mortis means only the decline in body temperature or the reaching of the ambient temperature. I don't know which one is correct. I made my edit to avoid contradictions between the template for Stages of Death (which puts Algor Mortis third) and the page for Algor Mortis (which previously put Algor Mortis fourth). Lord Urjit (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Inclusion of animals

This article is blatantly human-centric, and barely includes animals, except a mention of warm-blooded animals.

Thorough expansion and advice is needed from experts in biology and thanatology (study of death).

I was wondering which Wikipedia policy promotes the inclusion of animals. There does not seem to be a policy which directly supports the cause, but there is a relevant maintenance template, {{Human-centric}}, that I have added to the article.

I think that WP:NPOV seems to be a policy that supports the cause of inclusion of animals in articles. — CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 17:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)