Talk:Shemanski Fountain/GA1

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 16:23, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • For a change, I tend to think this lead is a little too large. 222 words compared with 893 in the main body. Consider trimming a little.
  • Don't link really common terms like statue. Fountain is also common, but given the subject matter, I'm cool with that one. But have another look (e.g. what does linking "nozzle" bring to this specific article?)
  • File:Shemanski Fountain - Portland, Oregon.JPG could use a serious crop to remove the off-putting folks in the bottom-left and the lamppost on the right.
  • "in 1987–1988 " see WP:YEAR, maybe "during 1987–88"
  • Converting metres to inches seems odd to me, why not to feet? In fact, given this is a US article, I would have expected "feet" first and "metres" second.
    • I went with inches because the sources did as well. The way in which measurements are displayed are dependent on the "convert" template and infobox parameters (I do not know how to override them manually, if that's possible). --Another Believer (Talk) 17:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Especially since you do that in the prose.
    • I do not see where feet are used in the prose. (?) --Another Believer (Talk) 17:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sorry, I meant you lead with Imperial units in the prose. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        • Oh, thanks for the clarification. Yes, this has to do with the convert template and infobox parameters. I can remove the template and enter this information manually, but I think the templates are preferred. --Another Believer (Talk) 18:52, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
          • I can't remember but I thought the convert template allowed you to put metric/imperial in whichever order you defined? In any case, consistency is preferred, so it's all Imp (met) or Met (Imp) as far as I'm concerned.... ! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
            • The infobox parameters cannot be adjusted, so metric measurements are displayed first by default. Since this is an American subject, I would advocate that (in the prose) American units should display first. Also, reversing the order proves to be difficult: if I reverse 144 inches to display 3.7 meters by attempting to convert 3.7 meters, the result displays 150 inches. I do not want to be difficult, and I also agree that consistency should be used as much as possible, but I am just offering my two cents (and would offer the same even if I were not the author of this article). Obviously, I do not want this preference to affect GA status, so if you require consistency in order for the article to be promoted, I have no choice but to enter the measurements manually as regular text and have the metric measurements displayed first (for consistency with the infobox). --Another Believer (Talk) 19:51, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
              • Can't you just use height_imperial etc? If the info box doesn't support a specific ordering per ENGVAR then it needs to be fixed to do so, or else not used (in my opinion). Either way, it looks odd seeing measurements made in metric in one place and converted to Imperial, and then seeing measurements in Imperial and converted to metric elsewhere.... I'd like to see it fixed here, but it would be an even more noble cause to fix the infobox if it doesn't support that of thinking. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A few issues to deal with for me, so I'll put this on hold for a week. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:50, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I thought I had completed pretty thorough research, but I happened upon this source while searching for information about another work. I will incorporate the following source into the article as soon as possible... just a few details that should be easy to add. Thanks.

--Another Believer (Talk) 06:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well let me know when you're ready for me to take another look. I've got some limited wi-fi for the moment, so if you catch me right, I'll be able to conclude the review! The Rambling Man (talk) 08:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Finished. See changes here. Thanks! --Another Believer (Talk) 21:42, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to have taken so long to get back to you, have been on holiday! Just one thing, there's still some inconsistency in whether the fountain should be in italics or not. Can you be consistent? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:37, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem -- I hope you had a nice vacation! I have always been confused as to whether or not fountains should be italicized. On Wikipedia, sometimes they are and sometimes they are not. So I did a little investigating and the question has been raised before, but no consensus was reached. In this case, I believe the fountain itself is a work of art, so I will display the title in italics throughout the article. Doing... --Another Believer (Talk) 16:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:09, 24 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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