Talk:September 3/Archive 1

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Removed

Could not be confirmed:

All I could find is that Natal was annexed sometime in 1848.

I have no idea why this is listed because the battle was fought betwee 21 February - 18 December 1916.

Wrong:

Nope. August 26 is the right day. --mav 02:57, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

1939

From Wikipedia: 1939: Paratroops are used for the first time, with German units dropped into Silesia, behind Polish lines. 1939 in aviation 1939: Bydgoszcz events, the "Bromberg Bloody Sunday"

1950

Could this be a possible entry?

I don't see why not. I'll add it. Granted, it has been over a year since you asked. --GVOLTT How's my editing?\My contribs 16:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Intro

Again reverted. OK. Refer to September 11. Surely you are not suggesting that the start of WW2 is less important that the bombing of the WTC. Wallie (talk) 12:40, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

If you can provide some sort of evidence that '3 September' or 'September 3rd' is a widely understood short-hand or is of global significance--as 11 September clearly is and 3 September clearly isn't--perhaps. But not until then. Remember, the burden of proof lies with those adding, not removing. You could start but asking questions which are relevant to the issue rather than irrelevant distractions. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 13:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Sure. What proof would you like? Try the article WW2. Your global significance article is difficult to prove, and relates to opinion. May 1 is probably more well known globally as a date than September 11. That doesn't mean that September 11 is not important. Wallie (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I agree with CalendarWatcher. No one is saying that the start of WW2 is insignificant or not important. However, you are asserting that it is more significant than the rest of the items listed below it. And yet you have not presented any requested citations to verify that point, so it is merely your POV. Articles need to be WP:NPOV. Chronological order seems to be neutral for all.
BTW, you wrote "Please discuss on talk page before reverting. Thanks." The same goes for reverting back to your edit. It would be better to complete this dialogue before reverting to either version. Bendono (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
[Edit Conflict] The event does not belong in the intro. Especially since it is wrong. September 1 is the generally noted start date of WWII - when Germany invaded Poland. The declaration of war by France et al. is notable, but it wasn't the start of the war. Removing intro and fixing event entry - no further discussion necessary since it is wrong. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 15:30, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Wording of Beslan Massacre commemorative

"2004 – Russian security forces stormed a school in Beslan, North Ossetia, to force an end to a three-day hostage crisis, killing at least 334 of the over 1,100 hostages"

This wording suggests that the deaths were caused by the Russian security forces. While the storming of the school may (or may not) have been ill-advised, and while doubtless some of the deaths were directly caused by Russian "friendly fire," the clear implication is that the primary onus for the 334 deaths falls upon the Russian security forces, and not upon the Chechen separatist guerrillas who actually killed most of those people. That is wildly non-NPOV, blatantly offensive, and basically objectionable in every conceivable manner. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 03:26, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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