Talk:Sam Carling

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... that Sam Carling was the first UK MP born in the 21st century? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/06/labour-sam-carling-22-first-mp-born-in-21st-century
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rashmika Mandanna
- Comment: Drive-by nom. Some editors are allergic to "first" hooks, but as there is only a finite number of MPs and all of their ages are in the public domain I think we're safe.

Created by Roc0ast3r (talk), JeffUK (talk), Yngvadottir (talk), Jyeboah77 (talk), and Akpqegoj (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 238 past nominations.

Laun chba ller 20:12, 6 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Comment only. It's interesting that you say that all of their ages are in the public domain. I spent a few hours yesterday clearing Results of the 2024 United Kingdom general election by constituency of dozens of links to disambiguation pages. Very, very few of the new MP bios included a year of birth. I don't doubt that The Guardian has got its facts straight, but I do doubt that your statement holds true. If it was true, those bios would presumably have included birth years. Schwede 66 05:46, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, that was a very clumsy way of putting that. I meant that all of the information would have been available to the Guardian for them to fact-check their claim (especially given that baby of the House is a thing). It's very unlikely someone else is going to sprout up and prove us wrong.--Laun chba ller 19:29, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Schwede66: The Guardian's just published an article saying that two further MPs were 24 at the time of election, and sniffing around some less than reputable sources (the @Tomorrow'sMPs Twitter account, which appears to be operated by Michael Crick) says that both Josh Dean (politician) and Euan Stainbank were born in 2000. ~~It would appear that Carling's constituency declared first, but I'll do a deep dive into live results when I'm finished with Dead Pony.~~ I do note that the Guardian has not retracted the article cited on this page.--Laun chba ller 15:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Economist, Stainbank's Falkirk declared at 3:47, Dean's Hertford and Stortford declared at 4:03, and Carling's North West Cambridgeshire declared at 5:59. However, I did some further digging, and it turns out I've got the start of the 21st century wrong as there is no year zero in the Anno Domini system. So I am right, but not for the reason I expected.--Laun chba ller 18:06, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't think the provided QPQ is valid because no hook was actually reviewed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because there were no hooks on the page for me to review and because I was explicitly invited to propose one - the only valid hook on that page is ALT2, which is my hook. Reviewers often propose new hooks and call for new reviewers, I fail to see the difference.--Laun chba ller 16:33, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

I think we need to have a discussion of if the allegations made against Carling relating to (elided) should be added to his page. They've been removed and added several times so we should reach a concensus. Muddyviolet (talk) 22:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They have been removed several times as no reliable source has picked up on these claims. If there is coverage of this in reliable sources, then it can be added. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that I have elided part of the above comment per WP:BLP.--Laun chba ller 22:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but coverage of them will just link back to the original source deemed unreliable, so would that not stil be unreliable? Muddyviolet (talk) 22:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your point, but as of yet I've not seen any mention in non-primary sources, so (with the greatest respect) the question is rather irrelevant until there is any secondary coverage of the allegations. GnocchiFan (talk) 10:52, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified claim of Salters sponsorship

In "Early life and education", the article that Sam Carling received a sponsorship from Salters to attend Cambridge. The citation attached to Salters is a link to their members portal, for some reason. The overall citation about attending Cambridge with sponsorship from Salters just a link to an article describing Carling as a Cambridge postgrad, with no mention of Salters.

The same claim is made on the Salters article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worshipful_Company_of_Salters#Salters'_Institute) where again the citation is simply a link to a city councillor profile of Carling with no evidence of Salters sponsorship.

As this article is semi-protected I cannot fix these citation issues myself. PositiveCharacteristic (talk) 15:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can, and have from both articles.--Laun chba ller 15:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biomedical Scientist please remove from main article,

Biomedical scientist is a protected title in the UK. Sam Carling is not on the HCPC register as of 12/07/2024 17:50 https://www.hcpc-uk.org/check-the-register/register-results/ so this job title should not be attributed to him 146.200.209.218 (talk) 16:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems a fair enough cop. Removed.--Laun chba ller 17:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Add section about Cambridge SU / Christ’s JCR Presidency to Education section:

Source (Cambridge student newspaper) https://www.varsity.co.uk/news/24838

Carling served as president of Christ’s College JCR for two years and raised concerns over Cambridge SU’s handling of LGBTQ student data. 185.108.171.47 (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]