Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Antwerp

{{move}} Diocese of Antwerp (given the policy of the English wikipedia to use English names for things where they are uncontroversial and incontrovertible). --Paularblaster (talk) 06:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move discussion

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was Move which was carried out by Charles Matthews (talk · contribs). —Wknight94 (talk) 14:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Any objections? --Paularblaster (talk) 06:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• But which version is used most frequently in relation to the Diocese? e.g. English texts refer usually to the modern Italian city of Trento, but always in context to the Council of Trent - the use of anglicised forms depends on the context. It would be best to supply some evidence first of predominant usage. Knepflerle (talk) 18:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, obviously a google search on the two forms is not conclusive, but it's pretty suggestive: 756 for "Diocese of Antwerp" as against 34 for "Diocese of Antwerpen", when controlled for wikipedia and its mirrors; looking at the 34 hits for "Antwerpen", it appears not to be used by any sites that are produced by native English speakers, while scanning through the hits for "Antwerp" it is clearly used in Engish texts by both native English-speakers (in such reference works as the Catholic Encyclopedia, for example) and native Dutch-speakers -- [1], for instance, is "the website of the Pastoral Service for Tourism of the Diocese of Antwerp ("Toerismepastoraal Antwerpen v.z.w.")". --Paularblaster (talk) 19:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

• Support. Many examples of "Diocese of Antwerp" can be seen with Google Scholar search, so meets WP:UE criteria.Compulsions70 (talk) 21:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
• Evidence provided and conclusion drawn look sound to me Knepflerle (talk) 21:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
• Support To distinguish from Trent, Antwerp is the modern English name of the city, where Trent may not be; this would be like Bishop of Firenze. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Note to admins

• For the reason for the repeated deleting & undeleting, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Apparent delete / undelete bug. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)