Talk:Profanity in science fiction

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needs 2000ad references; drokk etc

This all sounds very suspect to me. And what about the long, proud history of fantasy swear words? Should they be included in this list or have their own list? What about profanities used on modern day shows? Where do they fall in?

i would include fantasy swearwords under sci fi. modern day show profanities would not be included in this article. also, this is an article, not a list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.129.67.166 (talk) 12:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Herb Sutter

Yes, a book on C++ programming really is a source on what "TANJ" stands for and who coined it. It's point #3 on the page. Uncle G (talk) 23:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars

What about schutta? --82.83.97.240 (talk) 23:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Felgercarb

That's how it's spelled, not feldergarb. Just listen to most any episode of the original Battlestar Galactica. Bizzybody (talk) 06:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think so too. I'll change it. —Tamfang (talk) 00:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

International POV fail

I'm fairly certain that the show referenced in the examples for the use of "frak" outside SF is intended to be the US version of The Office. To non-Americans this isn't clear (other than by guessing: all the other shows listed seem to be American), especially when they're more familiar with the original UK version the version in question is based on. Could someone verify which version this is supposed to refer to and adjust the wiki-link accordingly? -- 78.35.98.218 (talk) 23:01, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

other cultures

Profanity in SF also encompasses the idea of things that alien cultures might find profane, and the notion that what non-humans and humans find to be profane may differ markedly.

Empire Star, if memory serves, asserts whatever a simplex culture considers most important consistently has a naughty name; examples given are jhup (which seems to be a mining product, the basis of the protagonist's home's economy) and a word for 'water' (in a world where that is scarce). Perhaps someone else remembers it better than I do. —Tamfang (talk) 00:35, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How is that different...

How is that different from any fictional profanity? What's scientific about those specific dirt words? Just wondering... --Damiens.rf 22:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One difference may be that it exists. :P

That is, I haven't encountered any cusswords invented for other kinds of fiction, other than trivial transparent bowdlerisms. Have you? —Tamfang (talk) 02:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek

No "Profanity in Science Fiction" article is complete without a section on Klingon swearing. It has been used in TNG DS9 VGR and ENT, plus some of the movies--T1980 (talk) 02:45, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

balance

there's a whole paragraph on Parke Godwin's opinion that it demeans writing, should there not also be a section on how it shows the limits of the characters and not the writers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omni314 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV and Scott Adams

Orson Scott Card is a science fiction writer but he's not (and perhaps no one is) enough of an authority to be able to dismiss Niven's invention of "tanj" out of hand like that in what should be the basic summary of the idea of fictional SF swear words. And why is the creator of the Dilbert comic strip being cited as an authority in any way at all?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.104.5 (talk) 20:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shtako from Defiance

It is worth considering mentioning the term "Shtako" from the TV Series "Defiance" in this article. Blastr is affiliated with the Syfy channel which airs "Defiance" and hosts an article (https://www.blastr.com/2013-5-24/know-your-shtako-catch-defiance-syfys-mini-marathon) detailing the etymology of the word. I would want to see more independent confirmation that the word and show are culturally relevant enough for its inclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.152.94.98 (talk) 07:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Empire Star

Samuel Delaney's "Empire Star" explores several variations on the theme ("jhup", "bleb"), but I don't have any secondary sources... AnonMoos (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Frak

Frak benefits (if that is the right word) from the all too visceral connotations of the real-world words fragging and friggin'. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:79DC:E78D:6E43:52B9 (talk) 15:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]