Talk:Passiflora caerulea

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10 or 12 apostles? 5 wounds?

In the christian symbolism, why are 10 petals (sepals/petals) related to 12 apostles? That makes no sense. Similarly, there is a reference to 5 wounds. I'm familiar with two hand wounds and two feet wounds, where is the fifth? (sorry if I'm sounding ignorant here) Anthony Liekens 22:34, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]


In reference to the 5 wounds hands feet and head (crown of thorns.)

Ref.

The name was given by the superstitious in former times, who saw in the five anthers a resemblance of the five wounds recieved by Christ when nailed to the cross. In the triple style are seen the three nails employed; one for each of the hands, the other for the feet. In the central receptacle one can detect the piller of the cross, and in the filaments is seen the representation of the crown of thorns on the head. The calyx was supposed to resemble the nimbus, or glory, with which the sacred head is regarded as being surrounded. [Friend, 1884: 192]

~In response to your confusion, 10 is the number of the faithful apostles, Judas and the apostle (Peter?) who denied Christ 3 times. And the 5 wounds are the hands, feet and the wound from the lance.

 There is a more indepth description under Passion Flower.  The crown is represented by another feature of the flower.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.69.202.16 (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

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Passiflora caerulea
A Passiflora caerulea flower, photographed at Ljubljana Botanical Garden in Slovenia. This species of flowering plant is native to South America. It is a vigorous, deciduous or semi-evergreen tendril vine, with palmate leaves and fragrant, blue-white flowers with a prominent fringe of coronal filaments in bands of blue, white, and brown. It may grow to 10 m (33 ft) or more.Photograph: Petar Milošević

Number of petals

"In Japan it is called 時計草 (Clock plant) due to having 12 petals" -- I note, with some concern, that there's no citation for that claim. More importantly, the flower has 10 petals, not 12. More accurately, 5 petals alternating with 5 sepals. "Five sepals and petals similar in appearance" is what it says in the description. Ten is also the number of petals in the images. Jusuwa (talk) 03:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Google's translation of the Japanese wikipedia article says, “The Japanese name Passionflower is derived from the characteristic flower that the pistil divided into three looks like the long hand, the short hand, and the second hand of the clock , and the petals are arranged in a circle and arranged radially to resemble a dial.” Jusuwa (talk) 03:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed all the unsourced text relating to common names in other languages. Darorcilmir (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Goragojana 45.250.244.154 (talk) 16:44, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]