Talk:National symbols of Wales
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Gold Dragon
I have removed the Gold Dragon from the list, added in 2022 by Titus Gold. The TL:DR reason is that Titus Gold created a whole page for this once, and we looked at the historical sources and simply did not find such a symbol of Wales in them and the page was redirected into the red dragon article. But specifically on this entry, here are some of the things making it problematic:
- The image is of a Wyvern, not a dragon. Note that the dragon on Glyndwr's seal has 4 legs, not 2 [1]
- Arthurian legend is not Welsh history
- Glyndwr history is being sourced to a newspaper and the link is dead anyway. Newspapers are not suitable sources for Welsh history
- The Nathenamin source is a blog. WP:SPS
- Next 2 sources are also newspapers (the National - dead link again, and Wales Online)
- The Rudy gold colour source fails to verify. See Talk:Welsh Gold Dragon
- Although there was a dragon on the privy seal (link as above) it was not only a dragon, and that was his personal seal, not a symbol of Wales. It was a seal and not a flag and the existence of the dragon took the pre-existing dragon symbols. The seal, of course, is uncoloured - it is used to make an impression in wax, and the wax could be any colour, although red is common.
So all in all it is just speculative and ahistorical. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)