Talk:Maurice Douglass/GA1

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Reviewer: Sarastro1 (talk) 20:42, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    A few concerns listed below but nothing serious.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Serious problems with referencing and at least one problem with close paraphrasing. Problem with refs cannot be sorted as links will not direct to appropriate page. However, I'm now happy that article is verifiable and no close paraphrasing.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Maybe a few sections could be expanded but probably not enough of an issue to affect GA.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    No images.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    See below for further comments.

References: A spot check revealed some big problems here.

  • I also found two instances of copyvio problems: In the court case section, two parts are very close for comfort.
    • Text: In April, the agents were found guilty of five counts of racketeering and fraud.
    • Original: A Federal jury today found two sports agents guilty of five counts of racketeering and fraud in connection with payments made to college athletes
    • Text: inducing college athletes to sign professional contracts in violation of National Collegiate Athletic Association rules, and of threatening bodily harm.
    • Original: inducing college athletes to sign professional contracts in violation of National Collegiate Athletic Association rules, and of threatening harm to some athletes who wanted out of the deals.
    • These are fine now, but noticed a couple of others:
      • Text: In September 1994, New York Jets fullback Richie Anderson dislocated an index finger punching Douglass in the head, while Douglass was wearing a football helmet, over what he believed was a late hit on teammate Adrian Murrell
      • Original: One other Jet also is out: Backup fullback RICHIE ANDERSON dislocated an index finger when, angry over what he believed was a late hit on teammate ADRIAN MURRELL, he punched the Bears' MAURICE DOUGLASS in the head. Douglass, however, was wearing a helmet. . . .
    • In this case, apart from the section reproduced exactly, the same words have been used in a different order which makes it a little close.
      • Modified.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Text: In 2008, he was suspended for three weeks and his offensive coordinator resigned. The school was placed on two year probation.
      • Original: Douglass was suspended from coaching for three weeks in 2008, and his offensive coordinator stepped down. The program received two years’ probation.
    • Sorry to be a pain about this, but everyone is very jumpy at the moment, and it's easily done. However, all the other sources that I can access look fine. --Sarastro1 (talk) 09:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Prose:

  • "In 2007, he returned the team to the playoffs for the first time in 25 years. That year, he was accused of luring players from other teams and found guilty the following year. He was briefly suspended." Slightly clumsy and could probably be combined into one sentence.

I have attempted to fix this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comprehensiveness:

  • A minor one, but maybe some more details about his court case over the intimidation would be worthwhile. Also, it would be good to know about his illegal recruitment and doping. And I noticed one of the articles mentions his love of the good life off the field, and I feel this would improve the article. However, this would not be enough to fail.

*Dablink to Scott Mitchell.

Given the serious issues with sourcing, I feel that I must fail this article. However, I would be happy to look again if the article was fixed and renominated. Aside from sourcing, other concerns are fairly minor. --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I re-opened this. Prose concerns now fine. Once the refs are linked to the correct pages and the remaining close paraphrasing concerns are sorted, I will pass the article. --Sarastro1 (talk) 09:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have done what I can.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, if the article won't let you link to other pages, that's fine and I'll pass. --Sarastro1 (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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