Talk:List of peace activists
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Kees Koning
The notable Christian peace activist Kees Koning should be mentioned in the list. 77.169.5.33 (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in replying. As always for this list, any candidate for inclusion should have an existing article. So please write an article on him first; he can then be added here if he meets the criteria for inclusion. Note that there is already an article for him on wp:nl, but a straight translation would not be suficient, as it lacks sources, so you would have to find and add them too (this appears to be a general problem with the Nederlands wiki). --NSH001 (talk) 09:49, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
Short descriptions of listed individuals
Would it not be better to try to include something more specific in each entry that explains in a few words why the person is listed than just "[nationality] peace activist" or the like. After all, if the person were not a "peace activist" then presumably they wouldn't be on this list at all. PDGPA (talk) 01:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. Also, this list needs clearer referencing. WP:PEOPLELIST requires that
"membership in the list's group is established by reliable sources"
–so a person should be described generally as a "peace activist" by independent reliable sources to be included in this list. Llll5032 (talk) 20:14, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Henry Ford
The Henry Ford edit presents a perfect illustration of why the list needs consistent, articulated standards. Henry Ford did not "oppose" WWII, for example, so much as he opposed U.S. involvement in WWII, because he was virulently anti-semitic and therefore a Nazi sympathizer. This should not count as being a "peace activist" any more than a U.S. Communist's opposing U.S. involvement in WWII during the Hitler-Stalin pact. I would suggest that the proper criterion for inclusion here should be something like a principled opposition to war as such, or at least to certain forms of war (i.e., nuclear war, or unjust wars in the Catholic sense of that term), on religious, moral or general philosophical grounds (that war always produces more harm that benefit, for example), coupled with significant, noteworthy personal action in support of those beliefs. Opposition to certain wars, or a particular war, on political grounds (favoring victory for one side over the other) should not qualify. PDGPA (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Henry Ford was added (by me) and then correctly quickly removed. Nothing broken here. But yes, I would personally trim the list to only those who really fit the existing and long-stable descriptor and worked or demonstrated for peace in a major way. Being a pacifist is not enough, although many are listed on that alone. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)