Talk:List of countries by Human Development Index

Where’s the 2023 data?

Last year around this time, there was new data. However, no one seems to have updated this page with new data. Is it not out yet? Hikerblunt01 (talk) 17:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Waiting here too GeraldoCzr4 (talk) 13:58, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

The data simply hasn't been released yet. The release date varies and has been as late as December. I'm in the UNDP mailing list and will update it as soon as it's released. --Trialpears (talk) 05:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I'll give an update here since the report is still nowhere in sight. Usually there is a launch event associated with a new report. No such event has been announced making me think that it won't come out before the end of the year. The UNDP has however explicitly said that they won't combine two years worth of data into one report like they did last time. I also believe that there still is one or potentially two regional consultations to go before release. I'm not gonna put any bets here but my best guess for the release month would be February. --Trialpears (talk) 00:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Finally. The last report will be released on 13 March. https://hdr.undp.org/content/202324-human-development-report-will-be-launched-13-march-2024srank Bananice2 (talk) 15:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

HDI 2023/24 Report comes out on 13 March

https://hdr.undp.org/content/202324-human-development-report-will-be-launched-13-march-2024

The source is above. Will anybody be updating it? I would be fine with doing so, but if anybody else has plans, then note them here - in the past we've had issues as multiple people edited over each other.

Additionally, is it possible to break the one large column up into multiple columns as it used to be before 2020 or so? It was so much easier to read back then. Perhaps it could be split into four columns for Very High, High, Medium, and Low?

- Maketrad Have fun on Wikipedia! (talk) 12:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

I can do it no problem. I suggest that we keep the 2021 column and just add the 2023 one. Ymblanter (talk) 16:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

I meant that the list is currently very difficult to read. If you look at old revisions from 2020 and before, you will see how the article was far easier to read being split into two columns, and organised by the categories provided by the UNDP.

Also, I'll make the map! Have fun on Wikipedia! (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by splitting into two columns, but if that means splitting the table into separate tables, like in the past ([1]), I think that is not a very good design. There should be a single table that contains all the countries in my opinion. A new column with the UNPD development category can be added if needed. Vpab15 (talk) 17:26, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I've read the note since then which specifies why they decided to do one column instead of two, it's good for mobile apparently. I will just split it into four categories but one column then, I feel it's easier reading that way...

Also the report came out, I'll start updating. EDIT: On second thought, I'm too busy at work, so I'll let others do that task. - Maketras Have fun on Wikipedia! (talk) 23:29, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Right now I’m trying to add HDI data to countries with 2021 data or no data (I added Nauru’s data. Turns out they had data last year. Huh.) 48JcL48 (talk) 00:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Though the table isn't complete yet, I have visually documented the 2022/23 data in increments of 0.050. A18934 (talk) 00:29, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I started to add the numbers but I am afraid I can not get through multi-cell formatting. If nobody objects, I can remove the two-cell formatting for 2021, otherwise somebody has to show me how to do it for 2022. Ymblanter (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I don’t see a problem with removing the 2021 graph. After all, people can just go to the UNDP website and get the HDIs from 2021 48JcL48 (talk) 01:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

It's relatively straight-forward. You use syntax like this: rowspan="3". If you can't get the hang of it, please let someone else do it. At the moment, one of your edits has mucked up the formatting of the entry for New Zealand. Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 04:33, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I tried that yesterday before coming here. I see that now it has been collectively fixed, so I will continue for the time being. Ymblanter (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I see that @GreenWolfyVillager: decided that looking for consensus in Wikipedia is optional and, without participating in this discussion, unilaterally removed the 2022 data. Ymblanter (talk) 10:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Judging from their talk page, they do not really care about Wikipedia policies in general. Ymblanter (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

I did not remove the 2022 data, in fact I filled the entire list with the new HDI, which is why I removed the 2021 data. You can look at the UN's official HDI list and see it corresponds with what I input. GreenWolfyVillager (talk) 13:00, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

I apologize, I meant to write 2021, not 2022. This does not negate my point. Ymblanter (talk) 14:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

“Formatting” edits

Would it be ok if the data was separated into development groups? Very high, high, medium, and low. I was looking at revision history and it was separated into those groups. Also, should there be a separate column for like “change in HDI since 20XX”? Or something? 48JcL48 (talk) 02:04, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

The change in HDI formula can simply be recalculated once we have the 2022 values put in place. MapleStorie (talk) 19:48, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Why???

So the changes only happened in mostly Western countries but Africa and most Asians have not? So why update in some countries and not all? 197.250.197.104 (talk) 16:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I’ve edited some like Eswatini, Botswana, Nauru but I feel like they aren’t relevant enough, no offense, for people to really notice them. ^48JCLTalk 02:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Tanzania

Tanzania was 0.549 in 2021 and in 2022 its 0.532??? Does not make any sense when the country has been moving forward 197.250.225.197 (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Pretty sure there’s a new HDI calculation. Last year’s 2021 data BOtswana was 0.693 but for this year’s 2021 it was 0.680 and went up to 0.704 in 2022. 48JcL48 (talk) 01:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

The colors on the map lack distinctiveness

The colors for different categories in the image, which divides HDI into intervals of 0.05, lack distinctiveness, especially for the categories of 0.95-1 and 0.9-0.95. Can anyone choose a better color type? --傻蛋小魔王 (talk) 16:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, you only really see the difference when a 0.9-0.949 country is bordering a 0.95-1.0 country ^48JCLTalk 02:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Afghanistan

in earlier revisions, there was a naming dispute over Eswatini/Swaziland, but it was kept as Swaziland due to the UNDP report saying that. So, I think it’s appropriate to change the Taliban flag to the UN recognized Islamic Republic of Afghanistan flag. ^48JCLTalk 02:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2024

In the 'List' section, the sentence before the table states that the data is from the 2022 report. This should be changed to the 2023 report, as the data has been updated to that from the UN's report from 2023. 119.234.6.24 (talk) 10:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The data given in the table matches that on [2] (page 274) which may be from a 2023 report but it uses 2022 data. --Ferien (talk) 15:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Annual growth and change in rank should start from the same year

It seems odd to me that the annual % growth starts from 2010 while the change in rank starts from 2015. I personally think both should start from 2012 as this would cover changes from the last 10 years, but regardless they should both start from the same year. Koiramainen (talk) 20:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)