Talk:Leaving Las Vegas

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Former good article nomineeLeaving Las Vegas was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 9, 2006WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
January 16, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

References to use

Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.
  • Litch, Mary M (2002). "Existentialism – Films: The Seventh Seal, Crimes and Misdemeanors, and Leaving Las Vegas". Philosophy Through Film. Routledge. pp. 185–200. ISBN 0415938759.

Failed GA

Second nomination

This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of January 16, 2007, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:
  • "Leaving Las Vegas has been filmed in super" should be "Leaving Las Vegas was filmed..."
  • This sentence "Nicolas Cage received an Oscar for his role, while Elisabeth Shue and Mike Figgis received nominations for their work in this film." is redundant and poorly worded.
  • The cast section should come after synopsis, and "VHS and DVD releases" should come after reception.
    • 2. Factually accurate?: A little light on references, but probably passable for a good article. I didn't notice any errors (although I have never seen the movie).
    3. Broad in coverage?:
  • The "Reception" heading needs more information on box office performance.
  • There needs to be a section on the soundtrack.
  • The "Difference from the novel" section is only one sentence; it needs to be expanded or elimated. Since this is just a good article (and not a featured article) I would just eliminate it.
    • 4. Neutral point of view?: Good job here. The article remained POV with no endorsements or detractions of the film, just general commentary on critical response.
    5. Article stability? Good here. No edit wars.
    6. Images?: Although in my opinion, it is unecessary, Image:Leaving Las Vegas DVD cover.jpg doesn't have any source information, and so could potentially be deleted.

    When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration. Thanks for your work so far. --Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 16:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    First nomination

    Problem: whilst this article is well written, most of the references relate to the film reviews. Not a lot of production or home release information is referenced. Please do so and resubmit the article. Wiki-newbie 20:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you please point out what production info is unreferenced using the {{fact}} template. Thanks, --Crzycheetah 00:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Rolex

    In this article in the Cleveland weekly newspaper Free Times ("Before the Court of Wikipedia. Why the People's Encyclopedia Ain't All It's Cracked Up To Be"), Erin O'Brien (sister of John O'Brien) writes about the deletion of the article about herself and then:

    Let's move on to accuracy. [...] Then there's this gem in the Leaving Las Vegas article: "It is interesting to note that Nicolas Cage, who basically played John O'Brien, wore O'Brien's actual watch, 1993 Rolex Daytona." (Nice syntax.) Now then, John purchased his Rolex Oyster in 1988. Someone from the L.A. County Coroner's Department removed it from my brother's dead wrist in 1994 and sent to my father who wore it around his wrist until he died in 2002. It is now in my possession. Unless there was some clandestine transaction between Cage and my father, which is about as likely as no one noticing the Goodyear blimp landing on the front yard, this is another heaping helping of tripe.

    This information was added on September 2006 by User:Eraserhead72, who most probably copied it from the IMDb trivia section about this film.

    For the moment, I have removed it. IMDb is a renowned and widely used resource, but errors in IMDb entries do happen and a second source should be cited before adding this back into the article.

    Erin O'Brien goes on:

    I tried to edit out the erroneous statements on both sites [i.e. in this article and in John O'Brien (novelist)], but some Kiss-the-Hem-of-my-Purple-Robe Wikipedian Lord apparently usurped my efforts.

    However, I can't find any such edits in this article. Her account has made no article edits. Maybe not all the information found in Free Times articles is trustworthy ;)

    Regards, High on a tree 00:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    I was thinking of deleting that sentence myself...I think her edits were deleted and that is why we are not able to see her contributions.--Crzycheetah 00:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, at least they were not deleted by an ordinary admin - this would be visible in the log. regards, High on a tree 03:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Erin O'Brien here. I did the editing before I had the account.

    I checked for edits by other accounts and anonymous users too. (You can verify it yourself if you first view this edit where Eraserhead72 added the bit about the Rolex, and then keep clicking "Newer edit →" to see what was changed in each new revision, until you arrive at the current one.) Maybe your edits got lost due to connection problems?
    Regards, High on a tree 15:00, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    DVD release has additional unrated content?

    The DVD box claims "uncut, unrated version featuring explicit footage not seen in theatres" [1] but it's unclear whether this is true. Is the original theatrical release available on VHS? If so it would be interesting to get a comparison. --Mathew5000 07:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Incidentally, it looks like the film will be released in HD-DVD on 2007-03-26, but only in France, presumably Region 2 PAL: http://www.amazon.fr/Leaving-Las-Vegas-HD-DVD/dp/B000L42JQ8/. --Mathew5000 08:01, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Trivia

    • Nicolas Cage researched his character by binge drinking and visiting many hospitalized career alcoholics. Elisabeth Shue associated with prostitutes and interviewed them on the strip in Las Vegas.
    • Author John O'Brien, on whose novel this movie is based, committed suicide two weeks after the movie went into production. Director Mike Figgis contemplated abandoning the project, but decided the film would make a good memorial for O'Brien.
    • Besides composing the score for the film, director Mike Figgis also played the trumpet and keyboards on the film's soundtrack.
    • Director Mike Figgis also played one of the Polish mobsters in the film and is credited for the role. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vince Klortho (talk • contribs) 11:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Naomi Campbell had appearances in the film that were edited out before its release.
      • Campbell bailed to promote an upcoming album. She was not filmed. Mariska Hargitay replaced her at the last minute.
    • The movie that Nicolas Cage and Elizabeth Shue are watching when they lie by the pool at the Desert Hotel is The Third Man (1949) with Orson Welles.
    • To get ready for his role in Leaving Las Vegas, Nicolas Cage would film himself drunk to study his speech patterns.
    • In one scene near the start of the film set in a Los Angeles restaurant, two film producers (maybe agents) are having dinner with two actresses. One of the actresses, played by Emily Procter, says "I think the nicest thing about the film actually is that we get to handle guns, and I had never done that before". That is one of Procter's two lines in Leaving Las Vegas. Coincidentally, Procter now, years later, portrays a ballistics expert on CSI: Miami.
    • The bartender at the breakfast/biker bar that wipes the blood from Ben's face is played by Julian Lennon, son of John Lennon. The dark-haired prostitute at the casino bar is played by the daughter of the actress Jayne Mansfield. The last cab driver in the movie, who tells Sera she is a "pretty young lady who can get any man she wants," is played by legendary soul singer Lou Rawls.
    • In at least two scenes taxis are shown with an advertisement on the roof hoarding depicting a brand called "Red Mullet" - the name of director Mike Figgis's production company and it's his face in the ad.
    • The 1993 Rolex Daytona that Ben wears in the film is John O'Brian's actual watch.
      • The watch Ben wears in the film is of the same make and model as O'Brian's watch, and the BMW he drives is the same make and model as O'Brian's car.
    • Throughout the film, Dennis Miller's likeness can be seen in advertisements on top of the various taxis Cage and Shue patronize.
    • Permits were not issued for some street scenes. Hence, some scenes were done in one shot, to avoid any police contact.
    • The "supermarket sweep" with Ben whistling his suicide death note scene was voted Empire magazines eighth greatest drunk scene in movie history (2005).
    • Ben doesn't eat a single thing during the entire film. This reinforces his dependence on alcohol as chronic alcoholics usually forget to eat or can't force food down. During the restaurant scene he puts spaghetti on his fork but doesn't eat it. And when Sera fixes him rice, he eats an ice cube instead.

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