Talk:Landform

alas

Regarding the "List of Landforms," the top one, 'alas' is something that I can't find any record of other than on what seem to be mirrors of this page. Does anyone have any info on whether or not those are real landforms, and what they are, or if that is a typo.

The "alas" does appear to be a real name for a permafrost landform. See http://nsidc.org/fgdc/glossary/english.pdf for definition (page 4 of the document; it lists alass as an alternate spelling) and http://www.hyarc.nagoya-u.ac.jp/game/6thconf/html/abs_html/T1/T1HY30Jul04115511.html for an example of its usage in a scientific paper.

Permafrost-related landforms are usually classified as Periglacial Landforms. I think it would be best to create a subcategory for periglacial landforms, to include alas, pingo, and patterned ground. (Those are the only permafrost landform words I know.)

Is there aiul8ul;u;lu;ulyh way to link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacial_landforms to this page?

Bodies of water as Land-Forms

Are bodies of water truly landforms? Bodies of water are not land, nor are they a form of it. In fact, they fill in the form of land, basically the lowest depression/basin of a landform. Just as a cave is not a landform, because it's exactly the absence of land. Seems like waterform would be a better word for oceans, seas, lakes, rivers, reservoirs, and ponds. Leitmotiv (talk) 23:53, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I have the exact same question. Sol Pacificus (talk) 03:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

The landform is the depression or basin that holds the water. Without the holding landform - the water would not be there. The "body of water" simply fills the existing depression. "Waterform" ... is that a term used in the references ... or an invention (WP:OR)? As for caves - seems a "hole in the ground" is a landform, but the air or water filling the hole isn't. Vsmith (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

I get your meaning, but when bodies of water are referred to, they aren't discussing the land, but specifically the body of water. It would seem to me if the land was the focus of discussion the sentences describing them would concern the depressions, canyons, faults, basins, that hold the water. Caves are a little less clear, even though the very definition of a cave is the void within the land. You can't have a cave without land, but the content within a cave can include features of water, rock, archaeology and biology. I guess its a case of dealing with the marriage of two separate things. Bodies of water are clearly held together by landforms and those are discussed at length, but the body of water is often described distinctly and separately from landforms. Bodies of water are of such expansive water substance that they should be distinct as atmosphere is from land and from water. Entirely different compounds with entirely different repercussions. Leitmotiv (talk) 17:55, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Both of you make compelling arguments, but I think Leitmotiv has it right. Vsmith, can you substantiate your definition with a source because I'm having trouble finding one. Sol Pacificus (talk) 21:18, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Geography

landform is a natural or anthropogenic[1][2] land feature on the solid surface of the Earth or other planetary body. Landforms together make up a given terrain, and their arrangement in the landscape is known as topography. Landforms include hills, mountains, canyons, and valleys, as well as shoreline features such as bays, peninsulas, and seas,[citation needed] including submerged features such as mid-ocean ridges, volcanoes, and the great ocean basins. 2405:204:A1A9:F918:0:0:DDE:10A0 (talk) 12:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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