Talk:Lacquer

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What about the french pop star? A page needs to be made for him, but I don't know how to create a new page about something with the same name as an existing page, or a disambiguation page!!

Urushiol

Can someone check my edit - the structure of urushiol - previouly was definately incorrect - is it correct now?83.100.249.24 14:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.cechinatrans.demon.co.uk/gqa-lac.html has a list of the structure. --Charlie Huang 【正矗昊】 19:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not to complain, but the syntax of the article, especially "if you spray it it's lacquer and if you brush it it's varnish," is a bit unprofessional...at least change the "you" items and organize better with punctuation...

iwas woundering if acrylic bassed lacquer is better than the nitrocellulose lacquer for sprayin a motorcycle that has acrylic prima base coat, acrylic paints on top and i havent found what lacquer will ge the best shinny finish.

Clarification

The contributions are confusing I think. Where did the art of using lacquer begin ? Japan or China ? The article seems to say both.

Can someone please edit to include the information of which is the most common lacquer?.

Add a Clear and concise (and well researched) history section

Please... I leave this to all the wikipedians to do when they are done chastising members of their own communities. Arthurian Legend (talk) 03:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Needed

It is stated that nitrocellulose lacquer is dangerous due to the toxicity of the solvent involved. The solvent is no more toxic than solvents used in standard lacquers. If toxic hazard is going to be stated, a citiation showing the veracity of said statement is required.

(moved to bottom per convention) Citations are always a good thing, and this one shouldn't be hard to get. One possible source would be California state law; they lead the United States in legislation regarding safe use of lacquer paints. However, I don't think a citation is critical, the article does nothing to claim the solvent is more or less harmful than any other solvent. nearly all of the Volitile Organic Compounds are harmful when inhaled. It would be nice if the article went into greater detail describing lacquer thinner, and link to the various commonly found components. Their respective pages contain the NFPA 704 which is a verifiable source to describe the component's toxicity. Also, nitrocellulose lacquer is "standard lacquer".

Confusing

The lac article states that the substance used to come from insects. This article talks about resin from trees. Is it both? Did one supplant the other? Are they the same substance? 118.71.11.248 (talk) 08:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, under "Urushiol-based lacquers" and "Japanning", examples of tree-derived substances are mentioned, so apparently both are possible? However, etymologically, it seems the word lacre originally only referred to the substances from the bugs, assuming the portuguese only knew about these at the time. So I think the introduction is correct. Beryllium-9 (talk) 06:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So no "she" lac beetle then? 32.212.19.36 (talk) 00:50, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing (language)

The referral in the phrase " other polymers dissolved in volatile organic compounds (VOCs), such as nitrocellulose, and later ..." suggests that nitrocellulose is a volatile organic compound, which I doubt is what was meant. Unfortunately, I could not come up with a better rephrasing, especially since I am not sure if the part about lacquer thinner refers to both nitrocellulose and acrylic compounds. In the latter case, I would split the sentence into two: "... (VOCs). This could be nitrocellulose, and later ..." But as I said I am not sure (and moreover not entirely happy with my own formulation either...) I guess I'll come back and see if someone else's done something about it...Beryllium-9 (talk) 05:59, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nomenclature

Changed lacquer to varnish in Etymology (referring to the secretion of the lac insect), since in second paragraph above:

"...in modern usage, lac-based varnishes are referred to as shellac, while lacquer refers to other polymers... and later acrylic compounds..."

There is enough room for confusion already: Lacquer and shellac are varnishes, but some varnishes are neither lacquer nor shellac. Lacquer and shellac are entirely different but have exactly the same etymological root. Different sorts of lacquers can have completely different compositions... No wonder woodworking forums are so often swamped in confusion!

Heavenlyblue (talk) 00:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

White Lacquer?

Just curious. Was there white-colored lacquers in the past? Komitsuki (talk) 08:03, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resin Sources

I don't see much info on the resin sources used in Asia for well over 2000 years to make lacquer. Seems like we want to know about the resin sources. The types of trees used in different places and the methods for extracting the resins from those trees, and processing those resins to make lacquer, across the 2000 plus years in Asia in which lacquer was produced from tree/plant resin. Thanks. Rtdrury (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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