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Date	Process	Result
September 18, 2008	Good article nominee	Not listed
September 19, 2008	Good article nominee	Listed
April 22, 2020	Good article reassessment	Delisted
June 28, 2020	Good article reassessment	Delisted
October 4, 2020	Good article nominee	Not listed
Current status: Delisted good article

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Brian Krebs (August 29, 2008). "Wikipedia Edits Forecast Vice Presidential Picks". The Washington Post.
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Maxwell Tani (May 15, 2015). "Meet the guy who has protected Hillary Clinton's Wikipedia page for almost a decade". Business Insider.
Alex Pasternack (March 7, 2020). "How Wikipedia's volunteers became the web's best weapon against misinformation". Fast Company.
Kalev Leetaru (April 29, 2020). "Biden vs. Kavanaugh: How the #MeToo Numbers Stack Up". Real Clear Politics.
Mayank Aggarwal (July 16, 2021). "Nobody should trust Wikipedia, says man who invented Wikipedia". The Independent.
Madeleine Spence (August 1, 2021). "Larry Sanger: 'I wouldn't trust Wikipedia — and I helped to invent it'". The Sunday Times.
Jack Beresford (September 2, 2021). "Wikipedia 'War in Afghanistan' Article Describes It As a 'Taliban Victory'". Newsweek.

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Section sizes

Section size for Joe Biden (61 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	9,149	9,149
Early life (1942–1965)	9,480	9,480
Marriages, law school, and early career (1966–1973)	10,644	25,647
1972 U.S. Senate campaign in Delaware	1,651	1,651
Death of wife and daughter	2,811	2,811
Second marriage	7,487	7,487
Teaching	3,054	3,054
U.S. Senate (1973–2009)	72	38,880
Senate activities	18,836	18,836
Brain surgeries	2,455	2,455
Senate Judiciary Committee	6,451	6,451
Senate Foreign Relations Committee	5,717	11,066
Wars in Afghanistan and Iraq	5,349	5,349
1988 and 2008 presidential campaigns	44	16,355
1988 campaign	10,903	10,903
2008 campaign	5,408	5,408
Vice presidential campaigns of 2008 and 2012	52	29,374
2008 campaign	13,290	13,290
2012 campaign	16,032	16,032
Vice presidency (2009–2017)	77	37,697
First term (2009–2013)	23,864	23,864
Second term (2013–2017)	9,351	13,756
Role in the 2016 presidential campaign	4,405	4,405
Subsequent activities (2017–2019)	6,676	6,676
2020 presidential campaign	78	31,876
Speculation and announcement	3,453	3,453
Campaign	22,472	22,472
Presidential transition	5,873	5,873
Presidency (2021–present)	535	115,561
Inauguration	4,106	4,106
First 100 days	13,069	13,069
Domestic policy	1,977	51,983
Economy	14,907	14,907
Judiciary	5,622	5,622
Infrastructure and climate	13,406	13,406
COVID-19 diagnosis	1,572	1,572
Other domestic policy issues	8,259	8,259
2022 elections	6,240	6,240
Foreign policy	1,842	34,318
Withdrawal from Afghanistan	10,733	10,733
Aid to Ukraine	6,509	6,509
China relations	8,166	8,166
Israel	3,898	3,898
Other foreign issues	3,170	3,170
Investigations	23	11,550
Retaining of classified documents	5,802	5,802
Business activities	5,725	5,725
2024 presidential campaign	3,149	4,742
2024 primaries	1,593	1,593
Political positions	31,173	31,173
Public image	12,941	17,710
Job approval	4,769	4,769
See also	317	317
Notes	26	26
References	17	1,691
Citations	45	45
Works cited	1,629	1,629
Further reading	1,741	1,741
External links	71	11,893
Official	335	335
Other	11,487	11,487
Total	389,988	389,988

Current consensus

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01. Mention that Biden is the oldest president in lead. (Feb 2021)

02. Deleted non-consensus

No consensus on section about gaffes. (March 2021 - though closer said that proposer should file a new RfC with a clearer question).

03. The infobox is shortened. (Feb 2021)

04. The official 2021 White House portrait should be used as the lead image. (Jan 2021, March 2021)

05. The infobox caption is "Official portrait, 2021". (April 2021)

06. In the lead sentence, use "who is" as opposed to "serving as" when referring to Biden as the president. (July 2021)

07. In the lead sentence, use "46th and current" as opposed to just "46th" when referring to Biden as the president. (July 2021)

Apology

I would like to apologize for having added the car accident photos back in December 2023. I take full responsibility for it, and it was a completely insensitive action on my part, especially for a biography of a living person. I will be more careful with any photos that I add from now on. I also would like to apologize for making this apology so late. I had to take some time off to come to terms with what I did, and it is not anyone else's fault but mine for taking the time off. FunnyMath (talk) 20:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The reason nobody has replied is because nobody cares anymore. It wasn't a big deal then, and definitely is water under the bridge by now. I'll go ahead and say, on behalf of everyone, apology accepted. Now that you understand why adding those photos wasn't a popular idea, you shouldn't have any more issues. Happy editing. Philomathes2357 (talk) 23:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vice Presidency of Joe Biden

Hello. On new pages patrol I have come across this article. According to NPP this was previously deleted. Looking at the edit history an IP restored or created this page from a redirect page [1]. Just letting people know. There is a note at the top of the article that this page was split-off per a talk page discussion somewhere. Let me know what we are supposed to do with this. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now I can't find that note at the top of the article - it was edited so it would not actually appear in the article. ----Steve Quinn (talk) 19:42, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TBH, I'm not a huge fan of these "Vice Presidency of..." pages. The "Presidency of..." pages, should be enough. GoodDay (talk) 19:45, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The "Presidency of..." should be enough. And a Vice Presidency page for Joe Biden seems to be irrelevant at this time. Also, his vice presidency is covered well enough in his bio. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 23:01, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add new info

I believe that the announcement of Joe Biden deciding not to retaliate against Iran after Iran fired missiles at Israel should be added to this article, as it relates to his current political decisions. Pilotnance (talk) 17:58, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That would be more relevant to Presidency of Joe Biden or Foreign policy of the Joe Biden administration. We have no way of knowing how defining such an announcement will be to Biden's entire life. 331dot (talk) 18:05, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I am sorry, I did not know those were separate articles. I will go to those articles and ask there. Thanks, Pilotnance (talk) 18:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beau's biographical sentence

Under Second Marriage, it says "Beau Biden became an Army judge advocate in Iraq and later Delaware attorney general"

He became a military lawyer in the United States, later serving in Iraq. By then, he was already elected the Delaware attorney general. This should read "Beau Biden was elected the Delaware Attorney General as well as serving as a lawyer in the Delaware Army National Guard."

Does Iraq need to be mentioned? If so, it can be tacked on the sentence I suggest.ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 15:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add his health condition

Joe Biden famously suffers from Atrial Fibrillation. I think this should be mentioned. NyMetsForever (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Slatersteven (talk) 16:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not unless it's required invocation of the 25th amendment, sections 3 or 4. -- GoodDay (talk) 16:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]