Talk:INTERFET logistics/GA1

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 07:45, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

I did a cheeky c/e a few days ago. I was OC of a unit of Jeff Wilkinson's LSF a year before this was mounted, and as I recall it was generally in a pretty sorry state due to cost-cutting.

I have a few comments:

• T–he ADF

  Y Heh. Deleted stray character. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• "unprepared to support an Australian force projection" of this size?

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• just wondering about the reason airlift is discussed ahead of sealift in the lead given ships did the heavy lifting logistically? I appreciate that the first troops arrived by air, so starting with Airlift makes sense there

  Yes, that was the reason. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• in the lead and body, perhaps mention why a maximum quayside depth of 7 m was an issue

  Added a bit. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• it might be useful to explain early on (and in the lead) about the Oecusse enclave and the logistical issues it raised given its physical separation from the rest of East Timor

  This still needs addressing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

  Y Added a bit. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

• in the face of objections

• Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• East Timor descended into a civil war

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• link scorched earth

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• for 1999 Helms-Biden Act, perhaps link Jesse Helms and Joseph Biden

  Don't think that would be very informative. It would be nicer if we had an article on the act. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Howard admitted that his government's defence policy was misguided?

  What he says is "The first Defence Minister in my government announced that... [he] would seek to use the language of the trade, to shift resources away from 'the back office to the sharp end'. I will leave to others to decide whether or not that was successful". He doesn't, of course, either in the book or in person, but he is pretty frank about it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

  I don't think that you can use that to support a statement that the government's defence policy was misguided. Perhaps "Howard has questioned whether the policy to prioritise combat capabilities at the expense of logistical ones was a successful one." or words to that effect. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

  I already dropped "misguided" so it now reads: "This was compounded by a defence policy of the Howard Government that sought to maximise the "teeth-to-tail" ratio, which is supported by the source. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

• two-brigade link brigade

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• purchase necessary special; equipment

  Y Deleted stray character. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• commander of Australian Theatre (COMAST)→Commander Australian Theatre (COMAST)

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Deployable Headquarters→DJFHQ

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• had better facilities thatn other cities

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• staffs at Logistics HQ, which HQ was that? FLSG?

  Y. Yes. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• I think you should attribute opinions like "The misguided outsourcing" I agree, as it happens, but it seems like editorialising unless you attribute.

  Y Deleted "misguided". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Cclasses of supply

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• drawn up to cover thea contingency

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• link flak jacket

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• hair nets?

  That's what the source says. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:08, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Down to Deployment. More to come. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:49, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• specify that the heliport was at Comoro airport when first mentioned (assuming that is right)

  No, it is not. Check the map of Dili I provided. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• perhaps drop the mention of the Kiowa's, as it doesn't seem likely they were used for logistics purposes.

  They were still using fuel though. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• the link to Bacau is wrong, isn't it Baucau?

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• NZAF→RNZAF

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• link stevedore

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• mention HMAS Coonawarra is a naval base not a ship

  Y The RAN likes to pretend. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• gobbled up is a bit colloquial

  Y Changed to consumed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• what was Logistic Support HQ?

  A logistic component command formed for the operation. It became permanent as LOGCC. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• APCs→armoured personnel carriers and link

  Y Linked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• B Squadron of what? 3/4 Cav? This also begs the question of what squadron of 3/4 Cav arrived earlier

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• who was Mostafa? Chief Engineer?

  According to the Wikipedia, he commanded the 17th Construction Squadron in 1991-92 and was CE 19 (Works) from 1996-97. Today he's the colonel commandant of RAE in NSW.

• drop the comma from "accommodation areas, "

  Y Deleted stray character Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• engineering capability requirements

  ? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Major General De Mueller's Support HQ? It is Des Mueller, and is this Support Command Australia?

  Y Yes. Added a 's'. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• "than others in using them wisely"

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• in the body, move the link to Vietnam War to first mention

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• McManus's Force Support→ McManus's FLSG

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• the backlog→The backlog

  Y Capitalised. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• specify that Balibo is near the border with West Timor

  Y Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Support HQ→Support Command Australia?

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• The Australian Theatre→HQAST? there is another example of this

  Y Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• is it worth mentioning that there are ongoing concerns about the use of mefloquine in ET?

  Y Sure. Most of this relates to later deployments, when it was more widely used. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• perhaps mention that the number of wounded was very low, along with the ammunition usage

  Unfortunately, I don;t have figures for either one. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• AFPO5→Australian Field Post Office 5

  Y Done. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:26, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:15, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by acceptably licensed images with appropriate captions. Passing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:28, 10 November 2019 (UTC)