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The article questions the role of Kalki when taking Siva's role as destroyer at the end of Kali Yuga into account.

My understanding of the situation is that Kalki appears to slay the evil and return the universes to Satya Yuga at the end of Kali. Siva returns at the end of Brahma's life (about 330 trillion years), at the end of the final Kali Yuga, to slay the demon of the age and perform the dance of destruction to destroy the universes. 202.89.61.155 10:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Cameron Barclay

Weapons/Ornaments of Various GODS/Goddess and Devas

Goddess PArvati or Goddess Durga : Pashupata Astra, Mugdar , Sudarshan Chakra, Trishula (Trident), 

           : Nandaki (Sword) Sharang (Bow),Padma (Lotus) Raktamber (Red blood like cloth)

Consort  : Lord Shiva Vehicle  : Dawon(tiger or lion) Abode  : Kailash or Himalaya

Lord Vishnu : Panchajanya (conch Shell), Sudarshan Chakra, Kaumodiki (Mace), Nandaki (Sword) Sharang (Bow), 

           : Padma (Lotus) , Kaustubha Mani, Peetambar (Golden cloth Hand roll)

Consort  : Ma Lakshmi/Shree Vehicle  : Garuda Abode  : Vaikunth

Lord Shiva  : Pinaka (Trident), The Third Eye, Chandrahaas (Sword -also given to Ravana) 

           : Damru (two sided drum small in size to fit in hand), Gaj & Bagh Charm (Elephant and Tiger skin ), Bhasm (Ash from the Crematorium), Bhujanga/Byala (Snakes), Horn Conch "Bhringi"  (Beugle made of Horn

Consort  : Sati/Uma/Parvati/Durga With Nine other Forms and Incarnations. Vehicle  : Nandi(Two horned Bull) and Bhringi (One Horned Bull) Abode  : Kailasha

Prajapati/Brahma : Padma (Lotus), Brahmastra (some sort of Nuclear Weapon) 

           : Vedas, Necklace of White Pearls

Consort  : Ma Saraswati (Goddess of Knowledge) Vehicle  : Abode  : Brahmlok (and the Lotus Springing from the Navel of Lord Vishnu)

Indra  : Vajra Consort  : Shachi/Indrani Vehicle  : Airawat (White Elephant) Abode  : Swarga —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manaspant (talk • contribs) 16:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Suppliments

Lord Shiva has the following in his armoury too: 'Parashu' Battle Axe - (A replica given to Bhrigu RAM alias PARASHURAMA), Long Bow - (named perhaps Sharang like that of Lord Vishnu) 2 in nos, given to Lord Parashurama, and the King Videha (Ancestors of King Janak F/o Sita/Vaidehi) each respectively.

Goddess SHAKTI. Suppliment B

When SHAKTI was initiated by all the Gods to Battle and fight Mahishasur (The Demon King), Every GOD from the Trinity of Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh, and the Devs offered an exact replica of their Choicest weapon to Bhagwati Shakti. Therefore we have Primarily the Trident, the Chakra, The Mace, The Bow, The Bolt, The BrahmPash, The Conch Shell (Shankh) and The Sword, Seen besides Lotus etc in the Images of Bhagwati Durga/Shakti in the Eight Handed (अष्टभुज)Form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manaspant (talk • contribs) 08:51, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Why is it called Mythological wars? If this is Mythological then even all of Bible can be called Mythological!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.199.60 (talk) 23:21, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Pseudo-Scientific and Non-Historical Speculation

This is an encyclopedia, so please refrain from presenting non-academically sourced musings as facts in this article. For example, the idle speculation of nuclear weapons in ancient times from some random person's blog. That should have no place in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.20.154 (talk) 09:19, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

detail about mahamaharatha

at where it or in which scripture it is written about mahamaharatha is it mentioned in any puran.if yes then in which and where — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.35.89 (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)


A warrior capable of attacking 12 Rathis simultaneously is called a maharathi.A warrior capable of attacking 12 maharthis is called an AtiMaharathi. A warrior capable of attacking 24 Atimaharathis simultaneously is called MahaMaharathi.

Satyaki,Abhimanyu,4 Pandava brothers ,Kripaharya,Duryodhan are all Maharathis.

Parasuram,Bhishma,Karna,Drona,Aswathama, are 2 Maharathis.

Ravans son Indrajit and Pandu Son Arjun is often claimed as an Atimaharathi.

Bhandasura was a Mahamaharathi.Brahma Vishnu Siva can be called Mahamaharathis but they are defeated many times by certain asuras. But Sakthi is truly Mahamaharathi and no one is above it.


Devi Purana gives a small reference about all these Arjunkrishna90 (talk) 11:59, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

in which skand and chapter of devi bhagvad puran it is written please tell if you know about it also mention the publisher name — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.37.41 (talk) 07:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


Is there is any evidence of the term mahamaharathi or this is only eyewash — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.34.175 (talk) 14:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

No it's not an eyewash. Yes these are the term used for the warriors of Satayug or Kritayug, Tretayug, and Dwaparyug. Various factors like power, skills, courage etc. are determined by looking at a warrior class. JoshiBhawesh (talk) 17:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

mahamaharathi i dont think this have any proof

I did't find any proof of this term mahamaharathi anywhere i dont think this is true.Because i dont find it in any scripture i think its only a thinking of the article writer if not then give the proof of it in which shalok of which grantha it is written or delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.38.55 (talk) 05:44, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Its not about proof..!! This is all about belif..! And more over.. who cant hand over hindi myth to any body of some other religion. And things written here are bullshits and not related to the Kurukshetra this changes who hindu mythology only. So please correct it or may have to take action against it my hindu community. Against Wikipedia Yadhu krishna A (talk) 19:01, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Article needs help

This article seems to be to need quite a bit of help. Much of the content is unsourced, confusing, and at times poorly written and formatted (e.g. "As per Bhishma in Mahabaratha at the tale of Rathas and Maharathas there are only 3 types of warriors.They are Ratha's,Atiratha's and Maharatha's.He classified every warrior in both sides of the army as per his judgement and knowledge of the science of weapons.According to him the highest level of a warrior is Maharathi and does not mention about the concept of Atimaharathi or Mahamaharathi.If we go by authentic scripture the highest class of a warrior is Maharathi.[15]"). Unfortunately, the subject of this article is not one I am overly familiar with, and there are not enough and specific enough citations for me to verify, so all I can really do is copy editing. Hopefully someone with a bit more expertise will take a look at it, and really work through the substance of it as the article is rated as high importance and could really use some working through. UnequivocalAmbivalence (talk) 19:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

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New article proposed - "Weapons of power in Hindu epics"

Discussion of a proposed consolidated Weapons of power in Hindu epics article is at Talk:Kurukshetra War#New article proposed - "Weapons of power in Hindu epics". --Bejnar (talk) 15:37, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Request to all admins

I reverted back content. Anonymous user with some IP address edited and spoiled article. Later "Csgir" sir edited based on data of anonymous user. I didn't go against Csgir sir. I reverted back according to previous version. Kindly dont edit based on anonymous user's choices. Thank you Sri Harsha 191817 (talk) 02:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment - Admins, do note that my edits to the page were a part of the March 2020 copy-editing drive and not in relation to any anonymous user as User:Sri Harsha 191817 implies. The user has undone many relevant copy edits to the article such as reinstated lines like "He is above all" or information that is a perception mostly. @Sri Harsha 191817: I will be reverting some of the edits undone by you after this message. Kindly check between the previous version and the copy-edited version before reverting again. Like you, I have read Mahabharata and Ramayana in great detail but here, we have to keep our emotions aside and then decide, which is why lines like "He is above all" were removed and others. Have a great day. Csgir (talk) 06:03, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Need to edit the page Mahābhārata on Wikipedia Yadhu krishna A (talk) 19:02, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2020

The answer is based on only one cast shaivism. They should consider Vedas as a source and Bhagavad Gita. There should be a proper research and proof before misguiding everyone. I would request you to kindly make the changes if not before posting fault information have proper background research. 2405:204:50A4:19AC:B98E:29BA:D738:BAFB (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:17, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Please rephrase your question. Is it that you think this article is unreliable because it relies only on one source? If you think so, cite your sources and describe what needs to be changes.

Thanks!PNSMurthy (talk) 04:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Strolling Away from the main topic

Is it just me, or is this article both strolling away from the main topic and addressing other, partially related topics which might have their own pages. Half of this article addresses background information that may not be needed. Can we clip it?

Thanks!PNSMurthy (talk) 04:24, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2020

I have a request that Bhishma should be called Atimaharathi. He should be considered the best archer of Mahabharat war because Parashurama defeated 17 akshaunis of Kartavirya Arjuna and Kartavirya Arjuna himself. Kartavirya Arjuna defeated Ravana who was a mighty Maharathi. He had the strength to stop the flow of Ganga with bare hands and only a strong Atimaharathi had the ability to do that. Parashuram killed Kartavirya Arjuna in a fairly manner and Bhishma wounded Parashurama severely woand defeated him. In Virata war, Arjuna used Sammohanastra against the Kuru Army but not on Bhishma because he knew how to encounter them. If Bhishma used all his powers, the entire Pandavas, Kauravas, Karna, Bhagadatta, and Drupada are no match of him. He always wanted peace and told Duryodhana to accept defeat. Arjuna would chase after Duryodhana and even though Bhishma could chase after Arjuna, he would not attack him behind his back as it is considered being immoral. In the war, even after Arjuna used all his powers, he wounded Bhishma once and that too not severely. He was able to recover. He was so powerful that Pandavas had to ask him how to defeat him in the war. Arjuna hid behind Shikandi and attacked Bhishma AEku482 (talk) 23:11, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much, AEku482! This type of editing calls for input from more editors, so unfortunately it is  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Thanks again for your interest in this article! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 01:56, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Good discussion. At the time when Parashurama attacked Kartavirya Arjuna popularly known as Sahasra Arjuna, Parashurama was Atimaharathi and he possessed all divine powers of Vishnu since Parashuram was incarnation of God Vishnu. After 1000s of years, Lord Rama (Vishnu's 7th incarnation) was born as common and divine-powerless human because Ravana was given a boon that an ordinary born human would kill him. Rama-son of Dasharatha was normal human. When Parashurama met Rama at time of Sita swayamvara, Parashurama asked Rama to wield Vishnu's divine bow Sharanga aka Kodanda. In that process, Parashurama's divine powers of Vishnu transferred to Dasharatha son Rama (Hindu deity). Now Rama is Atimaharathi and Parashurama became Maharathi. Parashurama lost all his divine powers to Rama. Parashuram recognized Rama as Vishnu and from then he began to lead life as a common sage. Hence Bhishma defeated Maharathi Parashurama not Atimaharathi. If Parashuram would had his divine powers, the legendary Bhishma couldn't defeat him. Thus Bhishma was also not Atimaharathi. From lines it is clear that Bhishma was equal to 4 Maharathis. On other hand, Arjuna single handedly defeated all Maharathis in Virata war including great Bhishma, Drona, Kripa, Karna and Aswatthama. Though Bhishma lost senses because of Sammohana astra, soon Bhishma regained his senses and attacked Arjuna. However Arjun broke Bhishma's bow and pierces 2 arrows in Bhishma chest making Bhishma to agree his defeat. After Virata war, Bhishma, Drona, Kripa accepted their defeat whole heartedly. Before that Arjun killed 3 crore demons (Nivata kavachas) in single shot. It's not that Arjun didn't have ability to beat Bhishma. It is very clear. Bhishma had boon that he could die whenever he wanted. So nobody could kill him. In war, Arjun defeated Bhishma by breaking his bows, cutting Bhishma's flag, armors etc and made him weaponless but Arjun didn't kill Bhishma after making him weaponless since Bhishma framed rules that no warrior can raise weapons against weaponless warrior. Arjun made Bhishma weaponless twice in battle field but still Arjun denied killing Bhishma against rules of war. That's the reason why Shikhandi was brought. On seeing Shikhandi, Bhishma didn't leave his weapons. He carried his bow but aimed at different direction. Taking this opportunity, Arjun pierced innumerable arrows making Bhishma to collapse since it was impossible to kill Bhishma. Hope above mentioned reasons give clarity for queries. Thank you and have a nice day. Fire star on heat (talk) 13:40, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Lol All I can do is laugh Arjuna failed to kill bhi small Nor did he ever kill 3 crore demons Its a myth Arjuna fled from Dron a in the 14th day Stop writing bs He was barely a maharani Forget about athi maharathi Arjuna randi (talk) 12:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Wrong. It's a fact written in the the pages of the Unabridged editions of Mahabharata.

'O king, when I had said these words, Indra with a smile said unto me 'Nothing is there in the three worlds that is not in thy power (to achieve) My enemies, those Danavas, named, Nivata-Kavachas dwell in the womb of the ocean. And they number thirty million and are notorious, and all of equal forms and strength and splendour. Do thou slay them there, O Kunti's son; and that will be thy preceptor's fee.'[1] -Talkpages are meant to be used for discussions to improve Wikipedia, not to throw out your personal frustrations, as you did here. N1234567 (talk) 10:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03167.htm

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 August 2020

Arjuna did not defeat the entire Kuru army. He battled with Drona and Karna. Bhishma only organized the battle formation. A terrific battle took place within Drona and Karna. Bhishma advices everybody to stop the war and told Duryodhana to give Pandavas he land. He is an maharathi and Bhishma is more powerful than him. arrows. AEku482 (talk) 23:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Sources are clear and reliable. Please read my comment on your talk page. Fire star on heat (talk) 14:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Title and lead need to match

If you want to change the title to Hindu ancient wars, you'll have to start a move request. See Wikipedia:Requested moves. As Hindu ancient wars is clearly saying they are historical, you'll have to argue that they are. Doug Weller talk 15:56, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

These wars were not historical and are purely mythological. I edited the article a few days back to reflect this and remove all religious claims that this was actual history, but it was repeatedly reverted by disruptive users, and I do not wish to start an edit war.Chariotrider555 (talk) 16:48, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I think these ancients wars were Historical to a great extent.N1234567 (talk) 10:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Wars in Ramayana and Mahabharatha are not Mythological wars - These are based on true historical events

Hi, I would like to clarify that the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata are actual historical past events and as such any event that has occurred in those events are also actual true historical events and not mythological / myths / objectively false / fictitious. Hence, the wars of these 2 epics being mentioned in this article implies the untruth and hence should be moved out of this article. This article purpose is only about "Mythological events". Thaejas (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Nope, you are confusing the popular definition of "myth" and the scholarly definition of "myth". The scholarly definition of "myth" is "a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.". The Mahabharata and Ramayana are myths, in that they are traditional sacred narratives that contain supernatural events and beings. Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:49, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Do not forget that Wikipedia adheres to a neutral point of view, and portraying these texts as historical fact falls under pov-pushing of a certain religion. Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Chariotrider555: I agree that these are based on real wars but don't forgot that most of the supernatural events are excluded from the "Critical edition of Mahabharata" by Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute. .💠245CMR💠.•👥📜 07:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

While I unfortunately have not been able to get my hands on the full critical editions of the epics yet, the historicity of the texts is out of the question. Even if all supernatural elements of the epics are struck from the texts, it at best becomes legend, not history. The texts were composed centuries after the periods in which they took place, and contemporary Vedic texts have no mention of the events of the Mahabharata and Ramayana, except for isolated references to some characters like Dhritarashtra, Parikshit, Janamejaya, Janaka, Dasharatha, etc.. The Mahabharata may be based upon the Rigvedic Battle of the Ten Kings, but even then the Mahabharata is heavily divergent from the Battle of Ten Kings. As for the Ramayana, which has even more supernatural elements, its events have no mention in the contemporary Vedic texts, making its historicity impossible. [1][2] Chariotrider555 (talk) 19:54, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Mahabharata and Ramayana are known as the Itihasas. Some western author has questioned but we still follow our gurus rather than following wests.N1234567 (talk) 10:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Murthy, S. S. N. (8 September 2016). "The Questionable Historicity of the Mahabharata". Electronic Journal of Vedic Studies. 10 (5): 1–15. doi:10.11588/ejvs.2003.5.782. ISSN 1084-7561. Retrieved 26 January 2019.
  2. ^ Goldman, Robert P. (2007). The Rāmāyaṇa of Vālmīki : an epic of ancient India. Motilal Banarsidass. pp. 13–29. ISBN 81-208-3162-4.

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2021

Arjuna was not an Mahamaharathi whereas Karna was a Mahamaharathi.Please make the change 202.173.125.16 (talk) 15:09, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done, provide reliable sources to support your claims..245CMR.•👥📜 15:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 July 2021

Arjuna isn't a athimaharathi Nor did he possess the brahmandastta or brahma Shiresha astra Arjuna randi (talk) 12:34, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 July 2021

"Hitwitsit" (talk) 06:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Please highlight the text from the source you have provided which mentions the ranks of warriors and if arjuna was an atimaharathi.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 July 2021 (2)

"Hitwitsit" (talk) 12:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

I request you to allow editing as i think your information is not correct Udyoga parva section CLXVI to CLXVIII mentions that Brihabala of Kosala is equal to 1 rathi you wrote 6 Atirathis Bhurishravas is equal to 2 rathis and you have missed most of the information of great warriors from kaurava side and Pandav side like-Trigrata brothers,Alambusha,King Nila of Mahishmati,Vinda Anuvinda,Suryadatta,Chekitana,Chandratta,Satyajit and Senavindu

@"Hitwitsit": Please give the source link from www.sacred texts.com and I will change..245CMR.•👥📜 13:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:36, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 July 2021

Arjuna wasn't atimaharathi No one is mahabharata possessed the brahmanda astra Arjuna randi (talk) 12:30, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia biased Arjuna randi (talk) 12:31, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Rathis

@Fire star on heat: Hi, I have seen your contributions and looks like you are interested in this subtopic of Hindu mythology. If free can you look at [1] and verify the claims of Rathis, Maharathis, etc. If you're not interested, then you may skip replying to this comment..245CMR.•👥📜 15:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 July 2021 - General Cleanup of Lede

The article needs some major reformatting and cleanup. Since it's under Extended Confirmed Protection (which, frankly, I think is too much; Semiprotection would have been enough), I'm detailing the changes that I'd like to be made to the lede here:

Change : Hindu mythological wars are the battles described in the Hindu texts of ancient India.

to :

Hindu mythological wars are the wars described in the Hindu texts of ancient India.


Change: These battles depicted great heroes, demons, celestial weapons and supernatural beings.

to: These wars depicted both mortals of great prowess as well as deities and supernatural beings, often wielding supernatural weapons of great power.


Remove the sentences: Major wars were fought with the aim of upholding the Dharma (righteousness that brought prosperity to humanity) over Adharma (wickedness that causes humanity to suffer). The purpose of the wars is often described as the removal of demonic beings or lords and rulers who pursued war with ambition (wicked wishes) and domination (for worldly pleasures).

as it is too generic to place in the lede.


Add a citation, changing: Hindu teachings prescribe war as the final option, to be employed only after all peaceful methods are exhausted.

to: Hindu teachings prescribe war as the final option, to be employed only after all peaceful methods are exhausted.[1]


Change the sentence:

But, when this time comes, war is taught to be a matter of great personal and social importance, where every man who belongs to the warrior caste must do his duty, exemplifying courage, honor, and fearsome prowess against all odds and even at the cost of his life.

to:

Participation in righteous war, or dharmayuddha, was said to be honourable and was a principal duty of the Kshatriya or warrior caste, and victory in such wars was regarded as a matter of honour.[2]

Consolidating all of these changes, the lede should read:

Hindu mythological wars are the wars described in the Hindu texts of ancient India. These wars depicted both mortals of great prowess as well as deities and supernatural beings, often wielding supernatural weapons of great power. Hindu teachings prescribe war as the final option, to be employed only after all peaceful methods are exhausted.[3] Participation in righteous war, or dharmayuddha, was said to be honourable and was a principal duty of the Kshatriya or warrior caste, and victory in such wars was regarded as a matter of honour.[4]


Aathish S | talk | contribs 10:00, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done.245CMR.•👥📜 09:57, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Roy, Kaushik. Hinduism and the Ethics of Warfare in South Asia From Antiquity to the Present. Cambridge University Press. pp. 28, 29. ISBN 978-1-107-01736-8.
  2. ^ Roy, Kaushik. Hinduism and the Ethics of Warfare in South Asia From Antiquity to the Present. Cambridge University Press. pp. 29, 30. ISBN 978-1-107-01736-8.
  3. ^ Roy, Kaushik. Hinduism and the Ethics of Warfare in South Asia From Antiquity to the Present. Cambridge University Press. pp. 28, 29. ISBN 978-1-107-01736-8.
  4. ^ Roy, Kaushik. Hinduism and the Ethics of Warfare in South Asia From Antiquity to the Present. Cambridge University Press. pp. 29, 30. ISBN 978-1-107-01736-8.

biased writing

Before war, Bhishma classified Karna as Artha-rathi because Karna had a bad habit of flying away from battlefield after being defeated as he did many times including Draupadi Swayamvara war, Gandharva war, Virata war. But potentially Karna was equal to 1 Maharathi.[15]

this line needs to be edited this is written from a biased prospective as is wrong on many levels please use some respectable sentences

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 August 2021

Goodpersonalities2000q (talk) 10:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

There are many stories behind Sudarshan Chakra . As per Vaishnav belief it is a self manifested one and not given by Shiva . Considering this , I would request to give edit access.

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 August 2021 (2)

Goodpersonalities2000q (talk) 10:46, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Sudarshana Chakra: The magical Chakra, a spinning disc with sharp outer spears. The Chakra was created by Lord Shiva with his toe to kill the powerful demon Jalandhara. By worshipping Lord Shiva everyday with thousand lotuses, vishnu received it. The Sudarshana chakra flies at the command of Krishna, spinning away to tear off the heads of his opponents, or to perform any function desired by Vishnu. It was most famously used by Krishna in the Mahabharata. - The story belongs from a Shaivite purana . As Chakra belongs to Vaishnavite belief , I request the edittor to change it as " Sudarshana Chakra: The magical Chakra , is a self manifested spinning disc created by Lord Vishnu to kill asuras

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:04, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 October 2021

this page is very biased and needs to be updated 2405:201:E032:803B:FD7A:7C93:D194:7A01 (talk) 15:28, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:54, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Dashavatar

In the section of deities, while telling dashavatars, 9th one is wrongly mentioned as balaram/vyasa, because it's Buddha, as mentioned in Purans too! Bhagwan Balaram was incarnation of Bhagwan Adi Shesh Naag while Vyasa is Gyaan avatar, not considered in Dashavatar. 2409:4042:259A:1626:0:0:226:C0AD (talk) 05:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

You're right, it should be Buddha. Thanks for pointing that out. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 08:23, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Informing that there were some other powerfull archers who can defeat bhishma

Karna ( king of karnal) he was so powerful that he can even defeat Arjun , drond, pashuram And many more legendry archers And warriors beacuse he was more powerful than bhim .


Hope you understand it 122.180.180.79 (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Brahmastra

It is a weapon which was created by lord Brahma (creator of the earth). It was used at various events in the Indian mythology for example,to capture Hanuman,kill abhimanyu's son by ashwatthamaa,or we can conclude that it was a weapon which could bring great destruction in the world

Extended-confirmed- protect edit requested on 8 June 2022

There are no sources which support the claim Of Arjuna being a Atimaharathi. He never displayed enough skills to be considered as a Atimaharathi As the page suggests 1 Atimaharathi= 12 maharathis. But arjun has never fought 12 maharathis at the same time In fact There were barely 6 maharathis on the kaurava side according to this article. So I don't understand why He is being portrayed as an Atimaharathi. In most sources he is considered equal to Karna and by that logic should be considered a Maharathi. He is martially adept and equal to Arjuna as a warrior, a gifted speaker who embeds provocative insults for his opponents in front of an audience.[1][2] Edit:-2- Arjuna only possesed brahmashirshaastra and pasupatastra. The vaishnavastra and brahmandastra claim must be supported by sources, or else it's all bogus. Can someone provide accurate sources or at least remove these unwanted claims. Shiraj chandra (talk) 18:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ McGrath 2004, pp. 29–30 with footnotes.
  2. ^ Bowles 2006, pp. 24–27.
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