Talk:Gourd

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What's going on with the two starts to this article? Someone who knows more about standard form than me needs to take a look at it. The contents box is two-thirds of the way down... 86.146.222.98 03:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It needs translating into English too.

Don't eat gourds!

In Pahrump, NV, in the middle of the desert is a field of wild gourds growing. Looking like watermelons, I stupidly ate one and it was the most bitter...it was the strongest bitter taste I ever tasted, and eat Korean food frequently!

I feel somebody needs to address this in the article, and to avoid gourds at all cost as food! Coffee4binky (talk) 18:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you just found some bitter watermelon. If you go to the Wiki watermelon article, it talks about them.174.6.130.25 (talk) 10:39, 4 November 2009 (UTC)BeeCier[reply]

This general statement, "Don't eat gourds", contradicts with, say, Winter melon. Generalizations need to be carefully crafted to avoid being contradicted. Perhaps under the "Uses" section, a list of known edible gourds could be given, although we must avoid making generalized statements about edibility in this article. The edibility and culinary use of each species should go into their own respective articles.

This article is being vague because the word "gourd" was used by people to refer to a variety of species. Very few generalizations could be made across these species. Instead, the article should begin by explaining the article's own purpose, that an object being named a "gourd" is a concept, and the specifics of each example of such objects should go into their own articles. However, do not convert this into a disambiguation page, because it requires more than a disambiguation page to guide readers into the correct articles. 71.84.228.131 (talk) 10:46, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merger

I oppose merging this article with Calabash. "Gourd" means two things - a type of squash-like fruit, and a dried-out shell. Calabash is specifically the latter.

Waitak (talk) 00:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Day-blooming gourds are pollinated the same way as squash"

Tell what that way is instead of referring to something else. I'd do it myself, but I have no idea how squash are pollinated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.163.72 (talk) 08:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gourds dry with a hard shell.

-this is what differentiates them from pumpkins or squash which may collapse and rot. Some species overlap the three, others do not. The proposed merge of calabash and gourd is an error. calabash encompasses at least two species or subspecies of gourds. I'm not going to look them up, but one type of calabash, often called the african wine kettle is typically green with very thick flesh, large in size and has a walnut shaped seed and always drys with a hard shell. The birdhouse gourd, also a calabash, is similar in appearance, but is altogether different. They don't interbreed and are typically smaller, lighter in weight and have a bone-shaped seed and always dry with a hard shell. The pepo species' encompasses most decorative small colorful gourds, as well as traditional orange carving pumpkins and other large hard-shell gourds. They are NOT in the calabash family of gourds. some pepo species dry with a hard shell, others do not. Calabash is a type of gourd, but not the only type and therefore should have a separate page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabeknapton (talk • contribs) 21:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Different meanings, one article

This should be separated into two different articles? As other words with multiple meaning are ... maybe: Gourd (Crop), and Gourd (Container).

--Trep26 (talk) 22:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the word, "history"

I notice that "very early in history" appears, referring to prehistorical times. I haven't made any changes, but I think "history" should be reserved for stories for which written records exist, and "prehistory" for those derived, not from contemporary writing, but from archaeology and other investigations into the past. 172.56.26.174 (talk) 13:36, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the biological information?!

I understand thew gourds have an interesting history as tools, but I feel like this article is really lacking information about the cultivars of the fruit in question. The article is also linked to from articles for specific species of gourd cultivars, but in such a way that one would expect this article to give an overview (area of origin, principal species/breeds in existence today, growing requirements, etc). I have no specific knowledge about gourds, but I may undertake to add some of the above to this article. If someone more knowledgeable happens across here, please consider doing the same!Threepenpals (talk) 02:18, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right. If you decide to extend the article, please pay special attention to the quality of the sources you use and take care to provide references to those sources. I'll pop a note on your talk page. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 03:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gourd Music, what are they called?

Sorry for a dumb question, I know they are called something like "morrakas" but since I cannot spell it, I need to know the spelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.104.205.239 (talk) 15:33, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Often Google search can guess that sort of thing, but not in this case. Redirect added from your spelling. Maraca. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:38, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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"History" section

This section is in dire need of help: read the first paragraph, it is spectacularly self-contradictory, and seems to be trying hard to claim that Peru and Thailand were in regular contact with each other 12 thousand years ago. It seems that over the last two decades several people have taken a run at this article, with no one having enough knowledge of all the aspects touched on to clear up the accumulating ambiguities. It needs the attention of someone who has both knowledge and an interest in clarification, simplification, and education. If that's you, please show it some love.2001:56A:F0E9:9B00:2162:F5D9:D10D:DA6C (talk) 06:38, 2 August 2022 (UTC)JustSomeWikiReader[reply]

I noticed that contradiction myself but I don't think it can be fixed because scientists don't know everything - and in this case there are conflicting views. Traditionally on the Subcontinent gourds have been around since time immemorial. Related species that have been geographically separated for thousands of years usually develop unique characteristics that suggest separate origins - but that may not be the case. For instance most people associate tobacco with America but there are native species on every continent except Antarctica. Just because something is found in the New World doesn't mean it originated there or is unique to the Americas. With gourds, we may never know. Wokepedian (talk) 11:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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