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Violation of the law of Hong Kong A405

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/A405

Part 1

Preliminary

1.Short title

This Ordinance may be cited as the National Anthem Ordinance.

2.Interpretation

(1)In this Ordinance—

national anthem (國歌) means “March of the Volunteers” (a translation of《義勇軍進行曲》), the national anthem of the People’s Republic of China under the Constitution of the People’s Republic of China;

national flag (國旗) has the same meaning as in the National Flag and National Emblem Ordinance (116 of 1997).

(2)In this Ordinance, a reference to the lyrics, and the score, of the national anthem is a reference to—

(a)the lyrics, and the score, set out in the stave notation of the national anthem in Schedule 1; or

(b)the lyrics, and the score, set out in the numbered musical notation of the national anthem in Schedule 2.

(3)In this Ordinance, except in section 5, a reference to playing and singing the national anthem includes—

(a)singing the national anthem;

(b)playing the national anthem on musical instruments; and

(c)playing a recording of the national anthem.

Schedule 1

[s. 2]

Stave Notation of National Anthem

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/legattachment?LEG_PROV_ID=354789&FILENAME=A405_en_sch1_20200612_000000_0001.jpg&PUBLISHED=true&TIFF=false


Reference:

https://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment/tc/curriculum-development/kla/arts-edu/resources/mus-curri/NA-PPT-comprehensive-c.pdf

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B9%89%E5%8B%87%E5%86%9B%E8%BF%9B%E8%A1%8C%E6%9B%B2

起来！

不愿做奴隶的人们！

把我们的血肉，筑成我们新的长城！

中华民族到了最危险的时候，

每个人被迫着发出最后的吼声。

起来！

起来！

起来！

我们万众一心，冒着敌人的炮火，

前进！

冒着敌人的炮火，

前进！

前进！

前进！进！

Schedule 2

[s. 2]

Numbered Musical Notation of National Anthem Kevinlokkw (talk) 03:24, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

French version

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloire_à_Hong_Kong

Can someone link it? I am not very tech savvy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.173.63 (talk) 04:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Has been deleted as an automatic translation already. —Kusma (t·c) 06:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as being about a musical recording that does not indicate its own importance and where the artist's article does not exist, because... it has been reported on TIME --Lawrence Alex 17:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

External link spamming

There have been multiple occurrences of external link advertising / spamming recently. Please look out for external link spamming (in other language versions of this article as well if you can) and remove them.

Some recent spammers:

  • user with the IP address 203.218.65.106 has been repeatedly posting the URL www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SXqw2hPck, which is a reupload of the original music video
  • user by the name of Ionoxphere posting an external link to a personal web page in multiple language versions of the article (warning sent)

Please refer to WP:ELNO if you are not sure whether a link should be removed. Kinos0634 (talk) 17:00, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have posted a warning in Ionoxphere's talk page. If 203.218.65.106 also does not stop spamming, please take action to block them as well. Kinos0634 (talk) 17:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Considering the Ionoxphere case as solved for now. Kinos0634 (talk) 17:15, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube link spamming

There has been someone repeatedly posting the YouTube link www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SXqw2hPck, this needs to be stopped.

List of users / IP address that have been posting this link:

Here is a list of the occurrences as of 2019-09-22 03:30 a.m. UTC:

English

Indonesian

Malay

Japanese

Simple English

Vietnamese

Classical Chinese

Wu Chinese

Cantonese

Chinese

We should get this user / IP address banned, and maybe protect the page (in all languages?) as well. Kinos0634 (talk) 17:39, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kinos0634: Try WP:RFPP, WP:3RR or even WP:ANI. Any of those should be helpful. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:48, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@The C of E: I have posted a report on Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism. Kinos0634 (talk) 17:53, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Administrator has taken action. Keep looking out for link spamming. Kinos0634 (talk) 18:39, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Occurrences after first administrator action

After my first report on Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism on 21 September 2019, User: Ben 123 warrior was blocked for 36 hours and User: Ben Kwan was blocked indefinitely. However, it appears that they are continuing this with a new account User: On9zai, still spamming the same link. --Kinos0634 (talk) 15:43, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

English

Indonesian

Malay

Cantonese

Update: User: On9zai has been blocked indefinitely. --Kinos0634 (talk) 10:34, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

suggestion

using more English sources because this is English Wikipedia. Mariogoods (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added Copyright Infringement Issues regarding the song to English Version

I added the "Copyright infringement issues" section in this English wiki, since it was missing here but present in the Chinese version. I've linked what should be linked, and added the appropriate citations. However, if you have any better translations to the Chinese video names, feel free to edit them in.

MusicSounds1011 (talk) 14:55, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Hi all. Recent edit to this section includes: "The march's Cantonese lyrics, written with Traditional Chinese characters, affirms a sense of a collective cultural identity (as differing from the Simplified Chinese characters and Mandarin Chinese brought in from Mainland China) which is at the heart of the conflict." [1] I fail to find any mention of Glory to Hong Kong is written in traditional Chinese character from source cited and IMO a stretch to assert traditional Chinese character play an important role to the reception of Glory to Hong Kong which is not in the source. Say, one cannot read Chinese character, it does not diminish if the song is sang in 'Cantonese Yale'. What the Globe and Mail says is: "Culture and identity are also at the heart of the conflict, and it’s revealed through the languages of these two anthems. The people of Hong Kong are deeply attached to the Cantonese language and to the use of classical Chinese characters. They have seen the Central Government funnel Mandarin-speaking immigrants into Hong Kong, and designer stores cater to Mainland visitors with signage written in simplified characters. Singing Glory to Hong Kong in Cantonese affirms a sense of identity that demands fighting for." --North wiki (talk) 00:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What is an "MV"?

I don't think it's explained in the article... AnonMoos (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AnonMoos, music video (which is listed at MV). But the abbreviation seems more used in Chinese. —Kusma (t·c) 10:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Audio removed from commons

Permission to use the song was given under CC-A-NC-SA 4. However, it was nevertheless deleted from commons. "This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License." (Source:[2]) Having a copy on commons would provide better access to the song. At present the only access linked is You Tube. More diverse access is better. 65.131.81.64 (talk) 15:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it was removed because Commons does not accept "non-commercial only" licences 62.64.230.108 (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see a score (using the wiki's Lilypond markup) if that is allowed. 62.64.230.108 (talk) 20:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading topic

This is not an official Hong Kong’s anthem!! 14.0.173.89 (talk) 00:19, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Everybody knows that. The article didn't mention anything about it being the official anthem of Hong Kong. What's the problem?－Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 06:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong riots

at leaaaaaast, you have to admit that is a violent protest! 125.168.116.42 (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

no one is denying that. it was also a very peaceful protest at certain points in the 2019 timeline. so what is the problem here? 61.239.113.224 (talk) 00:06, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 December 2022

Change "Hong Kong Protest" to "Hong Kong Protest and Riot" Change "The song, dubbed by some as "national anthem of Hong Kong",[2] is widely considered as promoting democracy in Hong Kong as well as protesting the gradual curtailing of freedoms enjoyed by Hongkongers, while "March of the Volunteers", the Chinese national anthem in Hong Kong's official capacity, is seen by many as representative of the mainland's autocracy.[3]" to "The song was composed by protestors and rioters to create an anti-government movement and anti-China sentiment in the city as well as defame the city in the international community. The movement has paralysed the city Hong Kong for almost two years from 2019 to 2020, causing loss of law and order in Hong Kong." Ccue168 (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Thus will clearly be a contentious change. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:05, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The 3rd line of the song is literally "Arise! Ye who would not be slaves again" which matches that of PRC's anthem. So please explain how exactly is it "anti-China"? 61.239.113.224 (talk) 00:09, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested content removal

The section in question:

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Some critics challenge the song in terms of musical theory[failed verification], considering its lyrics "clumsy" and its melodic range "too wide for most amateur singers" to which its lyrics' spoken tones are not synched.[unreliable source?]

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Logically musical theory is irrelavent to a song or anthem in general. Many songs and even official anthems are more difficult in range or lyrics for the singers, such as the USA's anthem for reference. Also compare many anthems and songs with no lyrics whatsoever, such as Spain's anthem for reference. There are no relevant sources for this random opinion, and I feel it is detrimental to the article as it stands. Ldkmelon (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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