Talk:Fire alarm control panel

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Conventional panels have been around ever since electronics became small enough to make them viable. They are no longer used frequently in large buildings, but are still used in smaller, or less important buildings such as schools.

The less important has been removed :( --Naya2005 06:54, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Brigade Called / Kissoff?

Kissoff is normally an indicator that means a signal has been acknowledged by a remote device. Brigade Called actually means that the brigade has been called and is on the way, although a type of "kissoff", it is too specialised to be just called that. Kissoff LED's are normally green whereas "brigade called" is normally red or yellow (because green indicates a 'normal' condition, and the brigade being called is not a normal condition).

"Monitoring" section

In the US, the term "monitoring" refers to off-site central station monitoring, ie a 24 hour dispatch center which receives alarms from panels and calls the local fire dept. This section in our article describes a desktop computer interface to the fire panel, which is indeed an important topic, but I believe should be renamed for clarity. At Simplex, we call it a "Graphical Command Center" or "Information Management System". Any ideas for a new title?

Steve G

Since the release of the 1999 Fire Alarm Code (standard) the NFPA has changed the use of the word monitoring to refer to the electrical continuity of circuit conductors and supervising to refer to the off site supervision of the system. At nearly the same time the International Series of model codes decided to abandon the use of Supervising as previously used and to substitute the term Monitoring in its place. The ICC codes reference as part of their code that same NFPA document and so the changed meaning.

Because multiple editions of the ICC documents adopt NFPA72 by reference I suggest the section be titled Off Site Supervision and leave the term monitoring to contexts involving conductors and other signaling paths. This could help elimate confusion between Central Sation Service and Supervising Station Service.

Axcadd 04:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Walks

What is a "silent walk" and what it has to do with walk? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.29.229.114 (talkcontribs)

I think you may have just picked out a weak point in the article, since "walk" in this case isn't all that well defined. For that, I thank you. SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coded?

What is this code which the article refers to at length in the first section but refuses to define? Is it an audible code which is heard throughout the building? A signal on the fire panel itself? It isn't clear what the panel does for the building owner or for the fire fighters. 75.148.171.69 (talk) 13:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's basically telegraph code. That's what they're referring to. Very old-timey. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, the code would be a pattern the horns or bells went off in. like in the article, if one zone's code was 1-2-4, the horns/bells would go on and off once, pause, twice ,pause, 4 times, and repeat. Weatherstar4000 (Talk) 31 July 2008 —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest that the article be expanded to discuss coded, non-coded and voice systems and the primary applications and advantages of each. Coded should include a description of temporal as the standard evacuation tone, whether produced by the appliance or via amplifiers and speakers. You could also go into a section on visual annunciation, strobe applications and sync requirements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.43.92.210 (talk) 12:06, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I belive you're thinking of the coding options on conventional and adressable pannels. A coded pannel (or for that matter, a coded pull station) uses mechanical parts to transmit a code (ie. 2-5-1) that is used by building personnel to determine where the alarm is originating from. Code 3, march time, voice evac etc. is already descussed in the Fire Alarm Notification Appliance article. Weatherstar4000 (talk) 22:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone please provide a wiring diagram for a sprinkler tree including the gate(valve), flow sensor, and tamper in a commercial fire alarm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.45.210 (talk) 23:20, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction

The introduction section is currently massive, and goes into a lot of detail that would be better off reserved for other sections. Would anyone object to me reorganising it by making it shorter and moving information into relevant sections? I will start doing this when I have spare time. Nabifly (talk) 12:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Signal Silence

The 2013 edition of NFPA 72 requires that visual signals be deactivated at the same time as the audible signals. [1] Should the article be updated to mention this? visit us online at http://127.0.0.1 (talk) 02:43, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "NFPA 72". 29 August 2012. Retrieved 4 December 2014.

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Lost sentence

I really am wondering what this sentence (paragraph) is trying to say: "For this reason, slang often inaccurately refers to initiating circuits of a Fire Alarm Control Panel as Zones." Slang? The initiating circuits are zones for a conventional panel. Is it perhaps trying to say that with addressable FACP the init. cir. are called zones, when that is no longer strictly true? Either way, I'm not sure this sentence adds much value. Buchskj (talk) 23:08, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fire Indicator Panel (FIP)

The Australian terminology Fire Indicator Panel (FIP) is not currently included. huwg 203.208.113.199 (talk) 02:29, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]