Talk:Elizabeth Anne Le Noir

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I'm an online ambassador for your WMST 250: Women, Art, and Culture (2014 Q3) class and have just stopped by to provide a quick review and add what I hope will be helpful comments.

You've done a nice job with this article. I just have a couple of thoughts you may want to consider:

• You've identified great sources in your "annotations" section, so it would be great to see the sources in addition to Ridley added in citations. Using a Wikipedia article is a circular citation which is a tertiary source- as I've tagged in the article. It is better to find reliable secondary sources - like those in your annotations list. Another option is to go to the article and find what source was used for the information that you're citing - if it's a good source, you can use that source.
• For multiple instances of the same source, like Ridley you can made one master reference, like <ref name="Ridley"> ... info ...</ref> and for subsequent used use the following tag <ref name="Ridley" />. Each source should have it's own ref name.
• Titles of newspapers, books, works should be in italics - I changed one instance of Reading Mercury in the introduction as an example.
• Regarding a "Curable Patient" - do you mean "curable patient"? or an "incurable patient"? Why does it need to be in quotes? It doesn't need to be capitalized.
• You may want to look at Janise Yntema for a sense of encyclopedic tone and grammar. You often do a good job, but it might helpful to fine-tune some sentences, like "Through marriage is how she got her last name Le Noir."

I'll be watching this page and your sandbox page for any updates. You can also "ping" me (just type "{{ping|CaroleHenson}}" as you see it) to your message on this page or leave a message on my talk page. Happy editing!--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:42, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Moved over because most of these still apply. I removed the circular reference to a Wikipedia article. I know that there's a lot here. If I can help, let me know.--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:01, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing

There are several sentences with close paraphrasing with the source:

• Le Noir was discouraged from writing by her mother.
• After the death of Elizabeth's father, Newbery gave employment to her then widowed mother and two daughters in the offices of the Reading Mercury, which belonged to him. After being employed for some time, Elizabeth and her sister eventually inherited the Reading Mercury.
• royal and military order of St. Louis. Most of his property and land being lost in the upheaval of the French revolution he came to England.

The sentences should be reworded in your own words, meaning that the order of the words is changed and it does not use the same words and voice of the author. One example might be something like, Le Noir's mother did not want her to pursue writing. Please see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Thanks!--CaroleHenson (talk) 06:01, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

• The first bullet was revised based upon the example - the other two bullets and some additional content was commented out - per discussion here.--CaroleHenson (talk) 00:09, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

"Curable patient" sentence

There was a clarification tag added because of the year - this source says he was hospitalized in 1757.--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)