Talk:Efrat (Israeli settlement)/Archive 1

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Name

This page should be joined with Efrat, as they are both referring to the same place. 129.98.196.159

The conventional reference to this community is "Efrat." Perhaps we can make that the standard internal ereference within the article? Tewfik 16:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm moving this back to Efrat, as that is what its referred to on Hebrew Wikipedia, with the official name of Efrata noted. The former is the name which the municipality identifies itself with on its website (despite the URL, which like the roadsigns, is imposed by the national government). Additionally, there are 882,000 Google hits for Efrat, and only 96,600 for Efrata, not that that is really relevant. 129.98.194.133 21:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Name

This page should be joined with Efrat, as they are both referring to the same place. 129.98.196.159

The conventional reference to this community is "Efrat." Perhaps we can make that the standard internal ereference within the article? Tewfik 16:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm moving this back to Efrat, as that is what its referred to on Hebrew Wikipedia, with the official name of Efrata noted. The former is the name which the municipality identifies itself with on its website (despite the URL, which like the roadsigns, is imposed by the national government). Additionally, there are 882,000 Google hits for Efrat, and only 96,600 for Efrata, not that that is really relevant. 129.98.194.133 21:48, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Photos

Why the removal of the photos: "PikiWiki Israel 6078 Efrat settlement.JPG", "View of Efrat from the highway (Efrat137 3773.JPG)" and "Roman aqueduct from Pools of Solomon to Jerusalem.jpg"? And 3 photos replaced by what? A hazy photo of an empty highway with a road sign, light poles and some snow with "beautiful downtown Efrat" barely visible in the distance. --@Efrat (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I'm sorry that you don't like my choice of photos. If you look at how it was before, you'll see that I only replaced one “"beautiful downtown Efrat" barely visible in the distance” by another “"beautiful downtown Efrat" barely visible in the distance”, but one which has the advantage of showing the “road sign” reading 'Efratah' as mentioned in the article. I first put the "View of Efrat from the highway (Efrat137 3773.JPG)"- picture in the infobox, but then discovered the one with the snow. (Yes, I like snow.) One picture of the town is imo enough, it's not Paris, New York or even Tel Aviv, and I removed the "Roman aqueduct from Pools of Solomon to Jerusalem.jpg"-picture because 1, there is really no room for more than one picture, and 2, it dosn't say what the photo has to do with Efrat. But let's not fight about it, I'm perfectly happy with a different choice. Cheers, Ajnem (talk) 11:03, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I like snow, too, but you must agree that the quality of the picture is poor mainly because of the contrast. It is fine for giving a feeling of a bleak winter day, but this is not an article about weather. LOL. I do, however, have a much more serious problem with the photo from an editorial point of view. Focusing on the center of Te'ena Hill (a very small part of Efrat) with the huge antennas kind of gives the feel of an armed military camp. Efrat is a sleepy bedroom community (commuter town) though I know that many consider all towns in Judea and Samaria to be military camps. There is already text to satisfy that point of view. Do we also need a photo to clobber people over the head with that point? Especially since the photo focuses on one small part of the town to make such point. It borders on deceptive propaganda.
Efrat is about 5 km long. The photo "Efrat137 3773.JPG (View of Efrat from the highway)" at least shows a truer nature of the town's size, stretching into the distance along the ridge. I wish I could find a photo from the road sign at a different angle to inlude both Te'ena Hill and the rest of Efrat all at once. (As for the snow, Efrat only gets it once every few years for a day or two, so its really not indicative of its true nature, just an rare oddity.) I am fairly certain that some of the residents of the town will change the picture soon. Time will tell. --@Efrat (talk) 06:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I think File:Efrat137 3773.JPG is better too. I wouldn't worry about the huge antennas though in the other picture. They don't say "military camp" to me, more like "inconvenient topography". Sean.hoyland - talk 06:42, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Not because I'm afraid of “some of the residents of the town”, but agreeing that the snowy picture of (part of) Efrata “borders on deceptive propaganda”, although not in the sense @Efrat meant it, I replaced the picture with the one you two prefer. And if anybody can give a referenced reason why the Roman aqueduct-picture belongs to Efrat, please add it, now that there is room for it, but I don't see any indication, that the picture was taken where Efrat stands today (s. here). Ajnem (talk) 09:19, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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